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BumRushDaShow

(168,344 posts)
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:56 PM 11 hrs ago

US considering military support for Middle East oil and gas supplies

Source: Politico

03/03/2026 01:32 PM EST


The Trump administration is considering providing military protection to oil and gas tankers traversing the Strait of Hormuz in a bid to cool energy prices that have surged since Iran warned it would attack ships at the choke point, two people said Tuesday.

“Military support for oil and gas supplies,” a person familiar with the discussion who was granted anonymity to discuss internal conversations said when asked about the potential for U.S. naval vessels to escort ships traveling through the strait. “It’s becoming a growing concern that the energy markets could face pressures in the coming days as the military campaign intensifies and expands in geographic scope. Access to the Straits of Hormuz is obviously vital for both natural gas and crude oil shipments, especially from Qatar and Saudi.”

U.S. oil prices have risen nearly $10 per barrel since the end of last week as the fighting has continued. That increase has started to filter down to gasoline prices, which are poised to climb higher than when President Donald Trump took office last year.

The administration is also considering potentially having the U.S. government back the insurance needed for tankers to continue traveling through the strait, said a third person familiar with the discussions. While the strait remains technically open, marine insurance companies are hiking rates and in some cases canceling coverage for tankers that traverse the area.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/03/iran-oil-energy-military-trump-hormuz-00808825



WTAF????

There are "Live Updates" breaking about this ridiculous scenario right now.

“Military support for oil and gas supplies,” a person familiar with the discussion who was granted anonymity to discuss internal conversations said when asked about the potential for U.S. naval vessels to escort ships traveling through the strait.

(snip)

The administration is also considering potentially having the U.S. government back the insurance needed for tankers to continue traveling through the strait, said a third person familiar with the discussions.


Where is the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for this? Why not ask Muskrat to kick in a couple hundred million.
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US considering military support for Middle East oil and gas supplies (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 11 hrs ago OP
Bet ya the oil Traildogbob 11 hrs ago #1
Crazy! ruet 11 hrs ago #2
China... Justice matters. 3 hrs ago #38
So, we are going to endanger US lives Miguelito Loveless 11 hrs ago #3
Yeah... who will want to risk their life working on those tankers? nt Justice matters. 3 hrs ago #39
So how about calling the whole goddamn thing off Klarkashton 11 hrs ago #4
Snip from BBC nitpicked 11 hrs ago #5
They can't get Americans out but guard the oil. Srkdqltr 7 hrs ago #26
Seems like a sensible consideration to me, help tamper down the oil market jitters EX500rider 11 hrs ago #6
There are too many tankers and cargo ships stuck in the Strait right now BumRushDaShow 11 hrs ago #8
Might be other navies will to help with that, their economies depend on it EX500rider 10 hrs ago #10
There are a bunch of countries who have been against our actions against Iran BumRushDaShow 10 hrs ago #15
How willing they are or not will change if they run out of oil due to the Iranians stopping tanker traffic EX500rider 8 hrs ago #20
China has already been obfuscating their ships to get what they need BumRushDaShow 8 hrs ago #21
FUCK yes....what an absolute clown show, ran by the head clown himself democratsruletheday 6 hrs ago #29
I keep seeing images of the maritime situation at the moment BumRushDaShow 6 hrs ago #31
It is not sensible sarisataka 10 hrs ago #11
"the Iranians could overwhelm a ship with a swarm attack" - EXACTLY!!!!!!!! BumRushDaShow 10 hrs ago #17
Once the Iranian's lose total air control Predators overhead firing on any anti-vessel activity will slow that down fast EX500rider 8 hrs ago #22
Recall how difficult it was to find Hussein's SCUD launchers sarisataka 7 hrs ago #23
Both aerial surveillance & the kill chain speed are vastly different now then in 1991 though EX500rider 4 hrs ago #35
Don't forget the people who 45 keeps claiming were "obliterated" (the Houthis) BumRushDaShow 7 hrs ago #28
Yeah but they get all their weapons from Iran who I doubt has any to spare now EX500rider 4 hrs ago #34
Oil immediately crashed nitpicked 10 hrs ago #13
It's generally been trading in the $70 - $75 range for the past week BumRushDaShow 10 hrs ago #18
What about oil in the Gulf of Tonkin? Is the USS Maine available? underpants 11 hrs ago #7
We did the same thing during the Tanker War phase sarisataka 11 hrs ago #9
But there is ANOTHER HUGE DIFFERENCE BumRushDaShow 10 hrs ago #12
little child rapist Whip-poor-will 10 hrs ago #14
Socialize the costs, privatize the profits Brother Buzz 10 hrs ago #16
What better time to start moving away from oil all together? OC375 10 hrs ago #19
GOP Grand Oil Party Emile 7 hrs ago #24
Ground troops were deployed to Vietnam merely to protect the airfields, don't forget Prairie Gates 7 hrs ago #25
We've entered the " Way Back Machine for Wars " .....we're re-living Bread and Circuses 7 hrs ago #27
"Why not ask Muskrat to kick in a couple hundred million." Polybius 6 hrs ago #30
Not "ironic" BumRushDaShow 6 hrs ago #32
I get what you're saying, but I don't want and EV head to be forced to pay specifically for oil Polybius 4 hrs ago #36
but FUCK YOU if you want affordable health insurance Skittles 5 hrs ago #33
Yes. Where's the $$ for this? And was it part of the "plan?" Grins 3 hrs ago #37
Probably just occurred to Trump that midterms might not Jarqui 2 hrs ago #40

Traildogbob

(12,910 posts)
1. Bet ya the oil
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:58 PM
11 hrs ago

Folks ain�t gonna offer a dollar for protection.
Tax payers just keep injecting cash into their veins.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,656 posts)
3. So, we are going to endanger US lives
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:09 PM
11 hrs ago

and paint targets on naval ships just so the Child Rapist's fellow child rapist can protect their money?

nitpicked

(1,653 posts)
5. Snip from BBC
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:22 PM
11 hrs ago
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cy0dp1l57nxt
(snip)

14:55
Breaking
Donald Trump says "if necessary, the United States Navy will begin escorting tankers through the Strait of Hormuz, as soon as possible".

The US-Israel war with Iran has almost entirely halted shipping traffic passing through the sea passage, which passes between the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman.

It's one of the most important routes in the world for global oil and gas supplies, with almost 20 million barrels of oil passing through a day.

Trump says he has also instructed a federal agency to provide "political risk insurance and guarantees for ALL Maritime Trade" through the Gulf.

"No matter what, the United States will ensure the FREE FLOW of ENERGY to the World," he says.
(snip)

EX500rider

(12,356 posts)
6. Seems like a sensible consideration to me, help tamper down the oil market jitters
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:23 PM
11 hrs ago

Maybe offer to release some of the strategic oil reserve also to help drive down prices.
The US has done both things before in the past.

See Tanker Wars 1981-1988 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanker_war
Due to the threat to global oil supplies and freedom of navigation, the U.S. Navy escorted re-flagged Kuwaiti tankers, leading to direct engagements with Iranian forces.

And keeping the price of oil down hurts Russia so double good.

BumRushDaShow

(168,344 posts)
8. There are too many tankers and cargo ships stuck in the Strait right now
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:31 PM
11 hrs ago

Whose tankers would we escort? How many of our ships would be needed to do this?

With drone warfare being "a thing" now, how do you protect an area like that without some lone shot-down drone slamming into a tanker that we're not escorting, and lighting up the water?

This whole thing is a cosplay fiasco that is rapidly collapsing.

EX500rider

(12,356 posts)
10. Might be other navies will to help with that, their economies depend on it
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:38 PM
10 hrs ago
Key Destinations and Percentages (via Strait of Hormuz):
Asia (Total): ~82%
China: ~37.7% (Also, ~90% of Iran's specific exports)
India: ~14.7%
Other Asia: ~13.9%
South Korea: ~12.0%
Other (Europe/USA): Remaining ~18


India relies on the Middle East for about 60% of its oil imports.
More than 90% of Japan's crude oil imports come from the Middle East.

BumRushDaShow

(168,344 posts)
15. There are a bunch of countries who have been against our actions against Iran
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:50 PM
10 hrs ago

for this very reason.

What you are describing is what SHRUB and POPPY put together BEFORE bombing - a so-called "Coalition of the Willing".

We have FEW "willing" because Kegsbreath thought he was "all that".

EX500rider

(12,356 posts)
20. How willing they are or not will change if they run out of oil due to the Iranians stopping tanker traffic
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 06:27 PM
8 hrs ago

How will the Chinese or Indians look upon tankers flying their flags being fired on/sunk by the Iranians?
They may start to escort their own flagged vessels.

BumRushDaShow

(168,344 posts)
21. China has already been obfuscating their ships to get what they need
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 06:33 PM
8 hrs ago

and Iran has been at this for a LONG time and knows who butters their bread and who they will protect. Everyone else is on their own if a drone swarm comes in and any stray fire from the "protectors", lights up the Strait.

We don't have enough ships to do that AND patrol outside of Venezuela looking for little speed boats to blow out of the water.

democratsruletheday

(1,850 posts)
29. FUCK yes....what an absolute clown show, ran by the head clown himself
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 07:59 PM
6 hrs ago

and he'll cost lots of young American lives before it's all over too. Such a piece of shit.

BumRushDaShow

(168,344 posts)
31. I keep seeing images of the maritime situation at the moment
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:26 PM
6 hrs ago

This was just from a couple days ago -



Shipping security risk increases dramatically in Persian Gulf


Marcus Hand,Editor
February 28, 2026

(snip)

Skytek, a provider of intelligence services to marine insurances, said on a post on X that over 100 container ships, 450 oil and gas tankers and 200 bulk carriers were currently inside the Strait of Hormuz.

“Live traffic shows one-way flow OUT of the Gulf. No vessels entering the Strait,” the post said.

(snip)


(from here - https://www.seatrade-maritime.com/security/shipping-security-risk-increases-dramatically-in-persian-gulf)

And obviously not all are oil tankers but also include container ships with goods going back and forth.

sarisataka

(22,437 posts)
11. It is not sensible
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:40 PM
10 hrs ago

The escorts themselves would become the targets.

The Burke- class destroyers are capable platforms, but at extremely close range it is likely the Iranians could overwhelm a ship with a swarm attack.

Crippling or sinking one of the destroyers would be a greater victory than half a dozen tankers.

It is a known weakness of the US Navy that we lack smaller escort warships like the OHP- class frigates we used during the Tanker War.

BumRushDaShow

(168,344 posts)
17. "the Iranians could overwhelm a ship with a swarm attack" - EXACTLY!!!!!!!!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:53 PM
10 hrs ago

There is no magical "Golden dome" for interceptions of drone swarms over those ships.

EX500rider

(12,356 posts)
22. Once the Iranian's lose total air control Predators overhead firing on any anti-vessel activity will slow that down fast
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 06:36 PM
8 hrs ago

trying to launch will become a death sentence.

The Russian/Ukrainian example does not work here as they both control their air space, allowing for safe launch of UAV's 20+ miles back from the front.

Something like their reverse engineered Chinese C-802 anti-ship missile (the Noor) is their best bet IMO, but the launchers aren't exactly hard to identify.

sarisataka

(22,437 posts)
23. Recall how difficult it was to find Hussein's SCUD launchers
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 06:56 PM
7 hrs ago

Even with total air superiority?

Drones will make reconnaissance easier but it is possible to conceal launchers until very shortly before firing. Also their is the question of will this administration allow the military to assign appropriate assets to implement an appropriate strategy?

EX500rider

(12,356 posts)
35. Both aerial surveillance & the kill chain speed are vastly different now then in 1991 though
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:55 PM
4 hrs ago

BumRushDaShow

(168,344 posts)
28. Don't forget the people who 45 keeps claiming were "obliterated" (the Houthis)
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 07:27 PM
7 hrs ago

who have done some damage "from the other side" last year. Notably Israel (who has been battling Lebanon and Hezbollah all of a sudden). They are waiting in the wings.



sarisataka

(22,437 posts)
9. We did the same thing during the Tanker War phase
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:33 PM
11 hrs ago

Of the Iran-Iraq War.

The difference was then we were not a party to the conflict so much of the protection relied on neither country wanting the US to join the conflict.

Since we are a primary participant, providing close escorts brings high value targets within close range of Iranian weapons. The Iranians then have two targets to shoot at instead of one.

BumRushDaShow

(168,344 posts)
12. But there is ANOTHER HUGE DIFFERENCE
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:41 PM
10 hrs ago

in that hundreds of these didn't exist -



(From here - https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ukraine-middle-east-iran-drones-missiles-ai-bahrain-dubai-b2930134.html_

We lost 6 troops who were stationed in a supposedly "fortified" (triple wide) Command center, from an OVERHEAD hit.

We are in a WHOLE NEW WORLD now.

Ask Ukraine.

Whip-poor-will

(44 posts)
14. little child rapist
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:46 PM
10 hrs ago

Jesus " Or what king, going out to encounter another king in war, will not sit down first and deliberate whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand? And if not, while the other is yet a great way off, he sends a delegation and asks for terms of peace. "

Didn't Pete read Luke 14 vs 26/33 quoted ? Christians my ass

800 + ships are waiting with those LNG ships a super prize a big boom how much would protection cost ?

We are in a clown car on the highway to hell

Bread and Circuses

(1,868 posts)
27. We've entered the " Way Back Machine for Wars " .....we're re-living
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 07:15 PM
7 hrs ago

All the bad parts of the 1970’s and 80’s.


I am soooooo Happy that our Taxes are paying to protect corporate oil thugs.

AGAIN! Our military is basically a security firm for the billionaires.

Polybius

(21,764 posts)
30. "Why not ask Muskrat to kick in a couple hundred million."
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:18 PM
6 hrs ago

Since he runs a pro-electric/anti-oil company, that sure would be ironic.

BumRushDaShow

(168,344 posts)
32. Not "ironic"
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:35 PM
6 hrs ago

if he wants more government contracts since he is now competing full on with Bezos and his Blue Origin and was willing to put SpaceX's assets on the line to bolster his own xAI and Grok.

Polybius

(21,764 posts)
36. I get what you're saying, but I don't want and EV head to be forced to pay specifically for oil
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:13 PM
4 hrs ago

I do, however, want his taxes raised by the billions just because he unfairly pays too little. Bezos and Gates and all the rest too.

Grins

(9,389 posts)
37. Yes. Where's the $$ for this? And was it part of the "plan?"
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:44 PM
3 hrs ago

There is no way Trump and his ass kissers in State and the Pentagon included this in their planning. Or what the goal is, or what “winning” includes, or what happens after hostilities end in Iran.

It’s the all-important - and still unanswered - “…and then what?” question.

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