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BumRushDaShow

(153,948 posts)
Fri May 30, 2025, 05:12 PM May 30

'Well, we all are going to die': GOP senator's stark mic drop to town hall over Medicaid cuts

Source: The Independent

Friday 30 May 2025 13:45 EDT


Republican Sen. Joni Ernst of Iowa had a grim message for her constituents furious over proposed cuts to Medicaid that could end health coverage for millions of Americans. Over a chorus of groans from the crowd at a town hall in Butler County on Friday morning, Ernst said her Republican colleagues were making “corrections” to the federal healthcare program to stop “overpayments” and prevent “illegals” from receiving benefits.

“People are going to die,” one person shouted out. “Well, we’re all going to die,” Ernst snarkily replied. When she was greeted with a mixture of stunned groans and shout-backs, the senator exasperatedly added: “For heaven’s sakes, folks.”

Democratic officials and advocacy groups pounced on the moment, accusing Ernst of airing what the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee called a “stunningly callous” remark that points to a wider failure among Republican members of Congress to face criticism over threats to a program that supports millions of lower-income Americans.

“Joni Ernst said the quiet part out loud: Republicans don’t give a shit about whether their own constituents live or die as long as the richest few get richer,” according to Democratic National Committee chair Ken Martin.

Read more: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/joni-ernst-medicaid-going-to-die-b2760957.html

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'Well, we all are going to die': GOP senator's stark mic drop to town hall over Medicaid cuts (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 30 OP
Stop electing corrupt lying fascist clowns! BootinUp May 30 #1
The sad thing is that there's a lot worse in that party, she's just telling the truth. kerry-is-my-prez May 30 #7
Yep, markodochartaigh May 30 #27
Yo Boyd! BidenRocks May 30 #33
We're all going to die, aka B.See May 30 #2
You first, Joni. FalloutShelter May 30 #3
Didn't she have a job as a pig castrator at one time RVN VET71 Saturday #63
That's like saying "Get on with it! You're costing me money!" bucolic_frolic May 30 #4
There's also a "you should appreciate that I'm even talking to you" element here too. underpants May 30 #19
Fuck her, obviously, but Iowans need to look around and look in the mirror. RockRaven May 30 #5
Make Americans Die Unnecessarily IronLionZion May 30 #6
Idiot LetMyPeopleVote May 30 #8
TY! Who knew Phoni would Tell the Truth at Cha May 30 #26
Take away her health insurance and see how cavalier she is about health, especially her own. Aristus May 30 #9
So, then they AREN'T trying to 'Make America Healthy Again?" Cloudhopper May 30 #10
Well, if you're dead you can't be sick anymore! Beartracks May 30 #23
Well what's the big deal with abortion then? Blue Owl May 30 #11
What an insensitive stupid fuck thing to say. Hope you go first Ms Compassion. JHC. These MAGAts are deplorable.... Evolve Dammit May 30 #12
Hmm, do you call yourself "pro-life," Senator? CTyankee May 30 #13
She is correct; however, The Madcap May 30 #14
Exactly. If they really want to play that game, they're endorsing abortion, the "issue" that has been their lifeline for Karasu May 30 #22
She is right on that we are all going to die. Just some us a lot sooner than we should because paulrevere2018 May 30 #15
When and how we die clearly doesn't fucking matter, or they would say as much. Us dying from 100% preventable shit is Karasu May 30 #32
So when the next CEO gets whacked, we can all just shrug and say, "Well, we're all going to die." paulrevere2018 May 30 #36
She's a member hildegaard28 May 30 #16
This is the most dystopian shit. Every Republican should be forced to wear this around their necks for as long as their Karasu May 30 #17
Maddow Blog-Pressed on Medicaid cuts, Iowa's Ernst tells constituents, 'Well, we're all going to die' LetMyPeopleVote May 30 #18
They should be in every anti-Republican ad until the end of time. Karasu May 30 #34
Well, because of RFK, Jr at HHS, halting Covid and flu vaccines, surfered May 30 #20
Much sooner. And that's the part she oh-so-conveniently chose to leave out. Karasu May 30 #35
And our early deaths will mean even more money available for tax cuts for millionaires surfered May 30 #53
I have no idea who is going to run against her in 2026, rsdsharp May 30 #21
Way these people act these days makes me wonder Picaro May 30 #24
It is such a shame drmeow May 30 #25
Phoni Joni: "Well We're All Going to Die.." We're Just Cha May 30 #28
What Joni means: Godot51 May 30 #29
Yes, Joni we all will die at some point--but YOU will have insurance-treatment, surgery if needed and pain meds riversedge May 30 #30
Starve with Joni, sueroseus Saturday #68
She's playing to the MAGAt crowd. TomSlick May 30 #31
Can't wait to see the quality of human excrement who manages to run to the right of "you don't deserve health care Karasu May 30 #38
I can wait. It won't be pretty. TomSlick May 30 #41
I was being sarcastic, but yeah. If Ernst isn't "stalwart" enough for these fucking people, I dread to see what the fuck Karasu May 30 #46
Of course we all are going to die. It's God's will. If we die earlier due to republicans' cruelty and greed, it is Norrrm May 30 #37
Yeah, and that sad sack of shit has gold plated healthcare BigDemVoter May 30 #39
You're right Joni. We will all die. BidenRocks May 30 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Buddyzbuddy May 30 #42
What, is she "the Godfather" now? BigmanPigman May 30 #43
The thing is...if that actually happened to her after saying this, the GOP would have NO moral leg to stand on. Karasu May 30 #47
Eat the rich. multigraincracker May 30 #44
Nope The Madcap May 30 #45
That's the republican health care plan Mysterian May 30 #48
She looked small -- like a little kid in an adult's chair. Intractable May 30 #49
What an utter pos.... 58Sunliner May 30 #50
Karma... pazzyanne Saturday #60
Not the good kind of mic drop Blue Owl May 30 #51
GOP health plan is "Die Quickly" nt IronLionZion May 30 #52
Let them eat cake Strelnikov_ May 30 #54
You should credit the band if you are going to quote their lyrics. Intractable May 30 #58
This would include billionaires who can't take it with them dlk May 30 #55
OMG! Delphinus May 30 #56
Thought this was another Republican. "Joni Ernst" should be in the headline Grins May 30 #57
What a crass and contemptuous thing to say. 3catwoman3 May 30 #59
That remark shows her (and the rest of the Reptilicans) incredible arrogance. raccoon Saturday #61
Now THAT'S "ignoring the working class." betsuni Saturday #62
That's the Republican health plan... SKKY Saturday #64
I remember when he said that! ProudMNDemocrat Saturday #65
The horror was because they knew he was right... SKKY Saturday #69
She's up for re-election in 2026 and Dems need to run this on an ad on a loop LymphocyteLover Saturday #66
This is what we run on!!!! usregimechange Saturday #67

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,965 posts)
7. The sad thing is that there's a lot worse in that party, she's just telling the truth.
Fri May 30, 2025, 05:31 PM
May 30

Much, much more horrible human beings - who are just not being honest and have their “slick answers” ready. They ALL have that attitude and secretly think that.

markodochartaigh

(2,988 posts)
27. Yep,
Fri May 30, 2025, 07:01 PM
May 30

Tim Boyd, the mayor of Colorado City, took to Facebook in anger at people "crying and looking for a handout".

"Sink or swim it's your choice," he raged. "The city and country... or any other service, owes you nothing."



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56100743

RVN VET71

(2,902 posts)
63. Didn't she have a job as a pig castrator at one time
Sat May 31, 2025, 08:09 AM
Saturday

I think she used that experience as a campaign meme.

She, like every stinkin' Republican, has dissociated herself from her humanity and is now reduced to a snarky shell, hungry only for power. Just like that loud mouthed Boyd character mentioned elsewhere in the comments.

These folks, some few of them, are not intellectually stupid and they honestly do not understand us people who care about each other and about justice and fairness. As Joseph Wambaugh said about the criminals he arrested and put in prison, "they all think conscience is a con" and the purpose of life is to get as much as you can before the other guy beats you to it. In the case of the current GOP terrorist organization, if that means letting babies starve and die, letting new-borns be born with life threatening diseases, causing entire populations to drop back into the well of despair and hopelessness, so what?

I can only think with horror and disgust at the so-called "human beings" currently in charge of our current Federal, and many State and Local, governments.

underpants

(190,938 posts)
19. There's also a "you should appreciate that I'm even talking to you" element here too.
Fri May 30, 2025, 06:03 PM
May 30

Stupid unwashed masses, she COULD BE having a steak dinner and cocktails on a lobbyists dime amongst a capital city crowd but NO she’s got to give you an hour of her time. Stupid masses

RockRaven

(17,335 posts)
5. Fuck her, obviously, but Iowans need to look around and look in the mirror.
Fri May 30, 2025, 05:22 PM
May 30

This is what they, or if not them than their neighbors, have been voting for for years.

Cha

(311,543 posts)
26. TY! Who knew Phoni would Tell the Truth at
Fri May 30, 2025, 06:58 PM
May 30

at maga Town Hall!!

A Truth that will Help Dems Score!

Evolve Dammit

(20,738 posts)
12. What an insensitive stupid fuck thing to say. Hope you go first Ms Compassion. JHC. These MAGAts are deplorable....
Fri May 30, 2025, 05:35 PM
May 30

The Madcap

(1,213 posts)
14. She is correct; however,
Fri May 30, 2025, 05:44 PM
May 30

With her attitude towards dying, I guess abortion is now a good thing in R world. And murder... After all, we're all going to die.

Open hypocrisy at its worst.

Karasu

(1,298 posts)
22. Exactly. If they really want to play that game, they're endorsing abortion, the "issue" that has been their lifeline for
Fri May 30, 2025, 06:20 PM
May 30

the past 40+ fucking years.

Hell, it's a great line of defense for Luigi Mangione, too.

"We're all going to die", after all. The "when" and "how" clearly don't fucking matter.

And this is coming from someone with taxpayer-subsidized health care.

It doesn't get more nakedly dystopian than this. This is an open admission of just how little people's lives matter to them....and they have the gall to complain about stupid bullshit like birth rates.

paulrevere2018

(63 posts)
15. She is right on that we are all going to die. Just some us a lot sooner than we should because
Fri May 30, 2025, 05:51 PM
May 30

of greed and callous indifference.

Karasu

(1,298 posts)
32. When and how we die clearly doesn't fucking matter, or they would say as much. Us dying from 100% preventable shit is
Fri May 30, 2025, 07:22 PM
May 30

something she's obviously fully on board with.

So when the next CEO gets whacked, we can all just shrug and say, "Well, we're all going to die."

paulrevere2018

(63 posts)
36. So when the next CEO gets whacked, we can all just shrug and say, "Well, we're all going to die."
Fri May 30, 2025, 07:25 PM
May 30

Brilliant!!

Karasu

(1,298 posts)
17. This is the most dystopian shit. Every Republican should be forced to wear this around their necks for as long as their
Fri May 30, 2025, 05:55 PM
May 30

jackboot party still fucking exists.

Without the right to life, there is no "liberty" or "pursuit of happiness."

This is them outright fucking saying they want most of us to die and have no qualms with using policy decisions to do it. It's a monumental confession and quite literally the stuff rebellions are made of.

LetMyPeopleVote

(164,273 posts)
18. Maddow Blog-Pressed on Medicaid cuts, Iowa's Ernst tells constituents, 'Well, we're all going to die'
Fri May 30, 2025, 06:00 PM
May 30

While everyone’s life will eventually come to an end, politicians rarely say, “We’re all going to die” when talking about their health care proposals.

Republicans have prepared all kinds of talking points for officials to use when asked about the GOP’s brutal Medicaid cuts.

I have a hunch “Well, we’re all going to die” — the line Iowa’s Joni Ernst used this morning — wasn’t on the list. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-05-30T16:18:50.435Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/joni-ernst-iowa-town-hall-we-are-all-going-to-die-rcna209983

There’s no shortage of controversial elements of the Republican Party’s far-right megabill — the inaptly named “One Big Beautiful Bill Act” — but the proposed Medicaid cuts aren’t just dangerous for low-income families. They’re also proving to be the most politically dangerous for GOP officials and candidates.

Party strategists have advised Republicans on how best to talk about the legislation, but I have a hunch the party’s consultants and spin doctors didn’t recommend the phrasing that Sen. Joni Ernst used during a town hall meeting with her Iowa constituents on Friday morning. The New York Times reported:

Senator Joni Ernst, Republican of Iowa, had a gloomy message for constituents at a town hall in Butler County, Iowa, on Friday morning: ‘We all are going to die.’ Ms. Ernst was fielding questions about cuts to Medicaid that were included in the domestic policy bill working its way through Congress, when someone in the audience yelled out that the effect would be that ‘people are going to die.’ ‘Well, we all are going to die,’ Ms. Ernst responded, drawing jeers from the crowd.


And while it’s certainly true that everyone’s life will, eventually, come to an end, policymakers tend not to comment on that fact when talking to the public about the effects of their health care proposals.

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:hjxzxx2t23ocgelrlss2ax7a/post/3lqfey6b2bc26



.....The problem with that, however, is that her assurances aren’t altogether true. According to the Congressional Budget Office, many struggling Americans who currently meet the eligibility requirements for Medicaid would likely lose their health security as a direct result of the Republican’s reconciliation package

“We’re not going to cut those benefits, what we are doing is making sure that those who are not Medicaid eligible are not receiving benefits,” Ernst said at her event. But as a HuffPost report explained, “Experts ... consider tightening Medicaid eligibility and thereby reducing its expenditures to be the same as cutting the program.”

What’s more, offered an opportunity to walk back the senator’s comments, Ernst’s office did largely the opposite. A spokesperson for Ernst said in a statement, “There’s only two certainties in life: death and taxes, and she’s working to ease the burden of both by fighting to keep more of Iowans’ hard-earned tax dollars in their own pockets and ensuring their benefits are protected from waste, fraud, and abuse.”

The Iowa Republican is up for re-election next year. It’s a safe bet locals haven’t heard the last of this one.

These comments will be in a ton of ads

surfered

(7,133 posts)
20. Well, because of RFK, Jr at HHS, halting Covid and flu vaccines,
Fri May 30, 2025, 06:03 PM
May 30

…DOGE layoffs, Medicaid cuts, and Medicare cuts, we are surely all going to die sooner

rsdsharp

(10,852 posts)
21. I have no idea who is going to run against her in 2026,
Fri May 30, 2025, 06:03 PM
May 30

but whoever he, or she is, the video of this statement needs to be hung around Joooooniiii’s neck like a boat anchor.

Picaro

(2,016 posts)
24. Way these people act these days makes me wonder
Fri May 30, 2025, 06:54 PM
May 30

Have they found a way into the voting tabulation systems. Or is she assuming Trump will declare martial law and cancel all elections?

We all die? Seriously? Or are Iowans so reliably stupid they’d re-elect someone who tells them to their faces she doesn’t care if they live or die.

drmeow

(5,609 posts)
25. It is such a shame
Fri May 30, 2025, 06:54 PM
May 30

that her sire wasn't castrated on the family farm when that pig castration she loves so much was going on. Would have been nice to save the world from her!

Cha

(311,543 posts)
28. Phoni Joni: "Well We're All Going to Die.." We're Just
Fri May 30, 2025, 07:06 PM
May 30

helping that Process Along As Fast As We Can.."

Godot51

(485 posts)
29. What Joni means:
Fri May 30, 2025, 07:07 PM
May 30

"Well, we're all going to die, only I will die later, more comfortably, much wealthier, and in much less misery and pain. Isn't that fair? Isn't that in god's plan? Sounds about right, to me".

riversedge

(75,895 posts)
30. Yes, Joni we all will die at some point--but YOU will have insurance-treatment, surgery if needed and pain meds
Fri May 30, 2025, 07:09 PM
May 30

Others will die in pain without Medicaid.

TomSlick

(12,434 posts)
31. She's playing to the MAGAt crowd.
Fri May 30, 2025, 07:19 PM
May 30

She will likely be challenged from the right in the GOP primary. How that works in the general remains to be seen.

Karasu

(1,298 posts)
38. Can't wait to see the quality of human excrement who manages to run to the right of "you don't deserve health care
Fri May 30, 2025, 07:27 PM
May 30

because you're all going to die."

But I'm sure they'll manage to find someone. They always fucking do.

TomSlick

(12,434 posts)
41. I can wait. It won't be pretty.
Fri May 30, 2025, 07:29 PM
May 30

In Iowa, a more stalwart MAGAt has the edge in winning the general.

Karasu

(1,298 posts)
46. I was being sarcastic, but yeah. If Ernst isn't "stalwart" enough for these fucking people, I dread to see what the fuck
Fri May 30, 2025, 08:33 PM
May 30

kind of subhuman filth they're going to dredge up.

Norrrm

(1,793 posts)
37. Of course we all are going to die. It's God's will. If we die earlier due to republicans' cruelty and greed, it is
Fri May 30, 2025, 07:26 PM
May 30

Of course we all are going to die. It's God's will. If we die earlier due to republicans' cruelty and greed, it is also God's will.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

BigmanPigman

(53,096 posts)
43. What, is she "the Godfather" now?
Fri May 30, 2025, 07:53 PM
May 30

Sleep with fishes, horse heads in beds....Hey Joni, which do YOU prefer? You are going to DIE Joni and I hope it is within 24 hours. Hell, I'll chip in a few bucks to put a contract out on her. Who is passing the hat?

Karasu

(1,298 posts)
47. The thing is...if that actually happened to her after saying this, the GOP would have NO moral leg to stand on.
Fri May 30, 2025, 08:37 PM
May 30

She literally just said we don't deserve health care because we're all going to die.

pazzyanne

(6,681 posts)
60. Karma...
Sat May 31, 2025, 12:15 AM
Saturday

will hit not just her, but it will hit her family members as well. Just desserts?

Strelnikov_

(7,980 posts)
54. Let them eat cake
Fri May 30, 2025, 10:45 PM
May 30

Ooh, there's no bread, let them eat cake
There's no end to what they'll take
Flaunt the fruits of noble birth
Wash the salt into the earth

But they're marching to Bastille Day
The guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Free the dungeons of the innocent
The king will kneel and let his kingdom rise

Ooh, bloodstained velvet, dirty lace
Naked fear on every face
See them bow their heads to die
As we would bow when they rode by

And we're marching to Bastille Day
The guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Sing, oh choirs of cacophony
The king has kneeled to let his kingdom rise

Lessons taught but never learned
All around us anger burns
Guide the future by the past
Long ago, the mould was cast


For they marched up to Bastille Day
The guillotine claimed her bloody prize
Hear the echoes of the centuries
Power isn't all that money buys
Oh!

Delphinus

(12,283 posts)
56. OMG!
Fri May 30, 2025, 10:56 PM
May 30

What an awful response!

Beyond that egregious reply, these are the "death panels" Sarah Palin talked about so many years ago.

Grins

(8,431 posts)
57. Thought this was another Republican. "Joni Ernst" should be in the headline
Fri May 30, 2025, 11:06 PM
May 30

I have never liked her, going back to her “bread bags” for shoes moment long ago.

She was raped in college and abused by her husband. Did she vote to confirm Hegseth who was accused of rape and assault on women???

Do you really have to ask?

betsuni

(27,969 posts)
62. Now THAT'S "ignoring the working class."
Sat May 31, 2025, 06:05 AM
Saturday

I want anyone, especially elected officials, accusing Democrats of ignoring the American people, having no policies or message, are the same as Republicans, to shut the fuck up and go join the Republicans already.

SKKY

(12,565 posts)
64. That's the Republican health plan...
Sat May 31, 2025, 08:29 AM
Saturday

...Don't get sick! But if you do, die quickly. Turns out Alan Grayson was right all along.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,664 posts)
65. I remember when he said that!
Sat May 31, 2025, 08:40 AM
Saturday

The horror on House Republican's faces then.

NOTHING has changed with them.

SKKY

(12,565 posts)
69. The horror was because they knew he was right...
Sat May 31, 2025, 04:31 PM
Saturday

...and calling them out. Republicans don't care if people die. That's just a fact. It's part of their Libertarian philosophy.

LymphocyteLover

(8,097 posts)
66. She's up for re-election in 2026 and Dems need to run this on an ad on a loop
Sat May 31, 2025, 08:42 AM
Saturday

Prime Senate pickup!

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