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BumRushDaShow

(165,152 posts)
Mon May 26, 2025, 06:54 PM May 2025

Trump doubles down on demand for names, countries of Harvard's international students

Source: ABC News

May 26, 2025, 10:22 AM


President Donald Trump on Monday doubled down on his demand for a list of names of international students enrolled at Harvard, yet another escalation in his administration's standoff with the university.

In a social media post on Sunday, Trump claimed that a third of students at the Massachusetts institution are from foreign nations and "some not at all friendly to the United States."

"We want to know who those foreign students are, a reasonable request since we give Harvard BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, but Harvard isn't exactly forthcoming. We want those names and countries," he wrote.

Trump repeated the request on Monday, while also threatening to take away more federal funds from the university. "Harvard is very slow in the presentation of these documents, and probably for good reason!" Trump wrote on his conservative social media platform. ABC News has reached out to Harvard for comment.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-doubles-demand-names-countries-harvards-international-students/story?id=122196205



REFERENCE - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143465923
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Trump doubles down on demand for names, countries of Harvard's international students (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2025 OP
Doesn't one of Trump's little monkeys have access to the visas. Are they just too lazy to look them up? Walleye May 2025 #1
Most likely USCIS, under Kristi Noem's DHS IronLionZion May 2025 #2
So they could probably find out the information without this show of force with Harvard Walleye May 2025 #7
Easily. This is all for show IronLionZion May 2025 #9
Yep, they have to have an enemy to beat up on. And they prefer it to be someone smaller and weaker. Walleye May 2025 #11
performance for the cult Skittles May 2025 #17
Is this all because that's where Obama went to law school? C Moon May 2025 #3
Probably although some of the biggest loons BumRushDaShow May 2025 #4
The dumbest MAGAts think this will open up more spots for MAGAts IronLionZion May 2025 #10
Something he said today about letting in foreigners when there's so many Americans that want to get in Walleye May 2025 #8
I'm wondering if there is some truth to that rumor. Nothing substantiated yet that I've seen, but... hamsterjill May 2025 #13
There is also the theory... Shipwack May 2025 #19
There's no earthly reason for him to be given that information FakeNoose May 2025 #5
The US Government already has that information. SomewhereInTheMiddle May 2025 #18
Aside from bullying, I think he chose Harvard because it's a symbol of upper class used in his effort to deceive mahina May 2025 #22
Do the incompetents know Marthe48 May 2025 #27
That's what I was thinking. Diamond_Dog May 2025 #28
Bullying and potential blackmail are Chump's only "emergencies" FakeNoose May 2025 #29
? Iamscrewed May 2025 #6
Use AI? Aussie105 May 2025 #12
Cute suggestion, but if even one name on the list happened to correspond with a real student, it could be disastrous. Martin68 May 2025 #15
"Amazing! The whole student body is from Borogravia! Who allowed them all in?" Conjuay May 2025 #23
All unconstitutional "demands." Martin68 May 2025 #14
The real reason he is doing this Old Crank May 2025 #16
In a Krasnov vs Harvard fight I like Harvard. Botany May 2025 #20
E. Jean Carroll hasn't seen a penny. Conjuay May 2025 #24
"Trump wrote on his conservative media johnnyfins May 2025 #21
Why am I thinking of every jokey ethnic name Marthe48 May 2025 #25
What an absolute self-own, to destroy your nation's top universities. Wingus Dingus May 2025 #26
trump holds a grudge LetMyPeopleVote May 2025 #30

Walleye

(43,694 posts)
1. Doesn't one of Trump's little monkeys have access to the visas. Are they just too lazy to look them up?
Mon May 26, 2025, 06:56 PM
May 2025

IronLionZion

(50,728 posts)
2. Most likely USCIS, under Kristi Noem's DHS
Mon May 26, 2025, 07:03 PM
May 2025

Federal IT systems track every visa holder in the US.

Walleye

(43,694 posts)
11. Yep, they have to have an enemy to beat up on. And they prefer it to be someone smaller and weaker.
Mon May 26, 2025, 08:12 PM
May 2025

BumRushDaShow

(165,152 posts)
4. Probably although some of the biggest loons
Mon May 26, 2025, 07:07 PM
May 2025

Carnival Cruise & Tom Cotton did too.

(and they seem to be MIA and eerily silent)

Walleye

(43,694 posts)
8. Something he said today about letting in foreigners when there's so many Americans that want to get in
Mon May 26, 2025, 07:30 PM
May 2025

Made me believe that the rumor about Barron being rejected might be true

hamsterjill

(16,912 posts)
13. I'm wondering if there is some truth to that rumor. Nothing substantiated yet that I've seen, but...
Mon May 26, 2025, 09:27 PM
May 2025

It sure would make sense. Malia graduated from there.

Shipwack

(2,974 posts)
19. There is also the theory...
Tue May 27, 2025, 02:07 AM
May 2025

That Baron Trump applied to Harvard but wasn’t admitted.

FakeNoose

(39,998 posts)
5. There's no earthly reason for him to be given that information
Mon May 26, 2025, 07:15 PM
May 2025

Harvard should NEVER back down on this. Nor should any other American university.

18. The US Government already has that information.
Tue May 27, 2025, 01:37 AM
May 2025

It is not like Harvard, or any school, gives out student visas. They all come from the State Department. As the article points out

Notably, the Department of Homeland Security already contains a Student and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS) information database. According to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the database "tracks and monitors" schools that hold SEVP status as well as the students who come to the U.S. to attend them.


Schools have to give information on their international students to the DoH on a regular basis by law.

I still do not understand what Trump wants from Harvard (in this case) that they are not already providing or that has been provided TO Harvard BY the government (a list of students that have the visa to attend Harvard).

This really does seem to be a circus for the MAGA mob without substance, signifying nothing.

mahina

(20,334 posts)
22. Aside from bullying, I think he chose Harvard because it's a symbol of upper class used in his effort to deceive
Tue May 27, 2025, 06:21 AM
May 2025

To us the word might mean the peak of exploration into human knowledge, research creativity, brilliance, academic tradition, and incredible human accomplishment, to people who have had no experience of that or exposure to that the word Harvard just means rich, snobby people people who think they are better than you

So if you pick a fight with Harvard, to his minions, he is a man of the people Two birds, one stone, he’s weakening the United States of America, which does seem to be a universal objective of his

Marthe48

(22,628 posts)
27. Do the incompetents know
Tue May 27, 2025, 08:05 AM
May 2025

The information is available in government records?
Even with skum interfering, I doubt they do.

Diamond_Dog

(39,646 posts)
28. That's what I was thinking.
Tue May 27, 2025, 08:36 AM
May 2025

What’s the big emergency he needs it for? A judge already ruled that Harvard is within its rights to admit students from other countries.

FakeNoose

(39,998 posts)
29. Bullying and potential blackmail are Chump's only "emergencies"
Tue May 27, 2025, 09:14 AM
May 2025

... and like others have said, the US government already has the information about student visas.
So this is all a big show for the MAGAs.

Iamscrewed

(486 posts)
6. ?
Mon May 26, 2025, 07:19 PM
May 2025

How long is it going to take before we can get rid of the lying criminal shit stain asshole of an elephant in this zoo of a world?

Aussie105

(7,540 posts)
12. Use AI?
Mon May 26, 2025, 08:40 PM
May 2025

Generate a few thousand fictitious foreign sounding names, connect each to some random country, and forward the list.

Then destroy any factual records Harvard may have.

Wait for ICE to come and locate "Fatzwalla Igorowich from Outer Mongolia" to deport him.

Stand back and giggle quietly.

Martin68

(26,940 posts)
15. Cute suggestion, but if even one name on the list happened to correspond with a real student, it could be disastrous.
Mon May 26, 2025, 09:38 PM
May 2025

I suggest we stick with the rule of law for the time being.

Old Crank

(6,604 posts)
16. The real reason he is doing this
Tue May 27, 2025, 01:23 AM
May 2025

Baron didn't get in to Harvard.

I haven't seen evidence one way or the other, or if he even applied.
But he said once that he didn't get in but Malia Obama did..

Also this should happen if you get rid of the legacy admits and the kids have to deal with competition.

Botany

(76,244 posts)
20. In a Krasnov vs Harvard fight I like Harvard.
Tue May 27, 2025, 04:39 AM
May 2025

This will not end well for Krasnov.
Remember when Krasnov went up against E. Jean Carroll and her attorneys and he wound
up 85 million dollars in the hole and was found guilty of sexual assault?

Harvard has some really good lawyers, in this right vs wrong dispute Harvard is in the
right, and the law is on Harvard’s side too.

So if President Peckerwood of Stupid Town, USA wants this to be a “Hill to Die For.” Go for it
Donny and bring your parking lot lawyer too.

johnnyfins

(3,385 posts)
21. "Trump wrote on his conservative media
Tue May 27, 2025, 04:58 AM
May 2025

platform"

Conservative? Who the fuck are you kidding, ABC?

How about "21st Century Volksempfanger"

Marthe48

(22,628 posts)
25. Why am I thinking of every jokey ethnic name
Tue May 27, 2025, 08:01 AM
May 2025

In every old ethnic joke or pun I've ever heard?

Paddy O'Furniture
Sam Ting
Willy Maket
I. P. Freely
and so many others I'd be tempted to send along.

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
26. What an absolute self-own, to destroy your nation's top universities.
Tue May 27, 2025, 08:05 AM
May 2025

Putin (and China) thanks you, you fucking turd.

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