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BumRushDaShow

(150,860 posts)
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 08:17 PM Wednesday

Trump admin releases docs allegedly linking Kilmar Abrego Garcia to MS-13 gang

Source: Scripps News

Posted 1 hour and 34 minutes ago and last updated 1 hour and 30 minutes ago


The Trump administration has released numerous documents allegedly linking Kilmar Abrego Garcia — a Maryland man who was recently deported to El Salvador — to the notorious MS-13 gang. Attorney General Pam Bondi shared arrest records to social media Wednesday, which claim Abrego Garcia was identified as an active member of MS-13 after being arrested in 2019 in connection to a murder investigation.

One of the documents from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security states that authorities made contact with Abrego Garcia and two other individuals outside of a Maryland Home Depot, and they all "freely admitted being citizens" of El Salvador and "were present in the United States illegally." They were all then taken into custody.

According to the Prince Georges County Police Department in Maryland, Abrego Garcia was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat at the time of his arrest, which allegedly symbolizes a "member in good standing" with MS-13. Authorities claim Abrego Garcia was also wearing a hoodie that symbolized what they describe as being "indicative" of Hispanic gang culture. The document then states that a confidential source confirmed to police that Abrego Garcia was an active member of MS-13.

He was ultimately charged with being in the U.S. illegally and had "no immigration history" at his time of arrest, according to the Department of Homeland Security. Abrego Garcia was one of over 200 individuals deported to El Salvador nearly one month ago. Despite his undocumented status, Abrego Garcia has an American wife and three children. Additionally, he had a court order protecting him from deportation to El Salvador due to credible fears for his life if he returned.

Read more: https://www.scrippsnews.com/us-news/trump-admin-releases-docs-allegedly-linking-kilmar-abrego-garcia-to-ms-13-gang



Link to ARREST RECORDS (PDF) - https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

So one "fitting the description" of MS-13 is someone "wearing a Chicago Bulls cap and a hoodie".
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Trump admin releases docs allegedly linking Kilmar Abrego Garcia to MS-13 gang (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Wednesday OP
It's the coverup that gets them, every time C_U_L8R Wednesday #1
This "evidence" is designed to rile up the mouth breathers. Wednesdays Wednesday #34
All of which is par for the course for this administration. Karasu Wednesday #37
And it will, because due process and the presumption of innocence... regnaD kciN Thursday #52
They should be made to pay for these lies flamingdem Wednesday #35
It used to. Now there is no rule of law and nobody with power cares about coverups and holding people accountable. /nt artemisia1 Thursday #61
Exactly RobinA Thursday #73
Bullshit LW1977 Wednesday #2
Totally. live love laugh Wednesday #29
Immaterial as he was still illegally deported. cstanleytech Wednesday #3
shared arrest records.... stillcool Wednesday #4
That cop was fired for misconduct IbogaProject Wednesday #18
wow. got no words for that. stillcool Wednesday #23
so the cop was with ICE and got fired? stillcool Wednesday #28
The report and initial arrest were 2019 IbogaProject Thursday #68
"the city abolished the entire police department" BumRushDaShow Thursday #57
Is the ink even dry yet? Attilatheblond Thursday #54
Due process..... Lovie777 Wednesday #5
If they had all this solid "evidence"... sheshe2 Wednesday #6
And if they had kkmarie Thursday #62
IKR! sheshe2 Thursday #67
They're still calling him a terrorist Diraven Yesterday #77
Wow, Chicago bulls cap and hoodies are evidence of being in ms-13! unblock Wednesday #7
At least we have a dress code for the protests n/t BlueSpot Thursday #75
If bulls swag and hoodies make you a gang member better arrest most of Illinois questionseverything Wednesday #8
Arresting officer not credible. Questionable evidence. nt wiggs Wednesday #9
Damn. My grandson has a Chicago Bulls hat and he wears a hoodie. Autumn Wednesday #10
People are pretty stupid in this country, otherwise trump wouldn't be back in JohnSJ Wednesday #12
Why did they wait so long FPGramma Wednesday #11
He wears a Chicago Bulls cap. louis-t Wednesday #13
Well, surely anyone wearing a Bulls cap that does not live at least near Chicago is suspect - of something. TomSlick Wednesday #24
Really? A Chicago Bulls hat? Wow, they are stupid tornado34jh Wednesday #14
"...in connection to a murder investigation..." regnaD kciN Wednesday #15
Latino-looking people outside a Home Depot Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Thursday #74
Walking with Skittles MadLinguist Wednesday #16
Your mind went where mine automatically went, too... slightlv Wednesday #22
Imagine if millions of us started dressing this way ;) n/t Cheezoholic Wednesday #17
I actually like that idea. slightlv Wednesday #25
Everybody should get a bulls cap. Where we go one we go all .... or something like that. live love laugh Wednesday #30
In my opinion, this is a great idea. Prairie_Seagull Wednesday #47
Sharpie much? Marthe48 Wednesday #19
We have evidence . . . Aussie105 Wednesday #20
The problem as I see it, is this Dan Wednesday #21
No Due Process CitizenZero Wednesday #26
"Arrested in connection to a murder Figarosmom Wednesday #27
So what? Javaman Wednesday #31
So Homeland Security is now saying Garcia was found with "rolls of cash". This is where they got that from; D. Spaulding Wednesday #32
Let's hear from Abrego Garcia so we can make up our own minds. Baitball Blogger Wednesday #33
I now have no doubt now that Garcia is dead and Krasnov's team is panicking. Botany Wednesday #36
Yep. And if he is dead, you know he's almost certainly not the only one. Karasu Wednesday #38
Today was a real shit show of trying to put Senor Garca on trial with Bondi, Blondie McSpokesperson Botany Wednesday #42
The whole country is full of Bulls hats, coats, jerseys Bluethroughu Wednesday #39
"fitting the description" of MS-13 ..."wearing a Chicago Bulls cap and a hoodie" ... ancianita Wednesday #40
Then the Trump administration Mblaze Wednesday #41
So are Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen going to be deported to El Salvador next? Wiz Imp Wednesday #43
So their evidence angrychair Wednesday #44
Again, see my post #34, above. Wednesdays Thursday #72
They just need something they can point at Hornedfrog2000 Wednesday #45
For the full story AncientOfDays Wednesday #46
This "evidence" was already presented at an immigration hearing in 2019, and Kilmar was allowed to stay. SunSeeker Wednesday #48
So Trump 47 Is Saying DallasNE Thursday #59
His ego has gotten into it. He can't admit Kilmar was wrongly deported. SunSeeker Thursday #60
This message was self-deleted by its author LuckyLib Wednesday #49
Kafka is spinning in his grave. LudwigPastorius Wednesday #50
Brought to you by the same clowns who put together the LuckyLib Wednesday #51
How stupid do they think we are. Zackzzzz Thursday #53
I thought of this song. It holds up. BidenRocks Thursday #55
So all Chicago Bulls fans who wear a hoodie are MS 13 members Blue Full Moon Thursday #56
What a nonexistent case EndlessWire Thursday #58
This circus is getting ridiculous neohippie Thursday #63
'Mistakenly deported' now has turned into he's a criminal? Raine1967 Thursday #64
Of course, after all of this, Garcia doesn't have 34 felony convictions. Vinca Thursday #65
I worked at a parking lot loader at a Home Depot Store in a short-term position last spring. John1956PA Thursday #66
These are the same docs from 2019...which were found to be very thin! PortTack Thursday #69
She is really scrambling - they must've killed him already. TBF Thursday #70
what a freaking joke.... these people are only exceeded in their evil by their idiocy LymphocyteLover Thursday #71
Unbelievable posting of right wing propaganda. gab13by13 Thursday #76
Here is the story on othet sites BumRushDaShow Yesterday #78

C_U_L8R

(47,109 posts)
1. It's the coverup that gets them, every time
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 08:20 PM
Wednesday

"Evidence". Yeah, sure.

And even if he was the Easter Bunny or a member of whatever gang... we have a Constitution and every person has rights.
Trump cannot just declare anyone a criminal based on his say so and then dole out whatever punishment tickles his fancy.

Wednesdays

(20,480 posts)
34. This "evidence" is designed to rile up the mouth breathers.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 10:38 PM
Wednesday

It has nothing to do with legality or the Constitution.

regnaD kciN

(26,965 posts)
52. And it will, because due process and the presumption of innocence...
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:47 AM
Thursday

…only apply to WHITE people.

Most of said mouth-breathers believe (and, more to the point, have been trained to believe) that black and brown people are uncivilized savages: violent, criminal, and basically subhuman. They are a danger to all the “normal people” (guess what determines that), and therefore anything that protects said normal people is justified, even if it means turning a blind eye to any legal protections for the “virtual animals.”


artemisia1

(982 posts)
61. It used to. Now there is no rule of law and nobody with power cares about coverups and holding people accountable. /nt
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 05:10 AM
Thursday

stillcool

(33,632 posts)
4. shared arrest records....
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 08:23 PM
Wednesday

those ought to be real beauts...although who could check if they're legit?

IbogaProject

(4,259 posts)
18. That cop was fired for misconduct
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 08:58 PM
Wednesday

He leaked information to a prostitute, endangering witnesses, informants and active investigations. Some police departments are so dirty they are the main locus of criminal conduct. In Camden NJ, when it was one of the most dangerous cities, the city abolished the entire police department and then rehired only the ones with out issues. Their murder rate plummeted to very low levels. NewarK NJ had a similar success with firing the entire police force and starting over.

stillcool

(33,632 posts)
23. wow. got no words for that.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 09:10 PM
Wednesday

I think I did see the story but didn't actually read it. Thank you!

stillcool

(33,632 posts)
28. so the cop was with ICE and got fired?
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 09:25 PM
Wednesday

I didn't think that was possible, unless you were a good guy.


Who is Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the man ICE mistakenly deported to an El Salvador prison?
https://apnews.com/article/who-is-abrego-garcia-e1b2af6528f915a1f0ec60f9a1c73cdd
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, however, alleged that he was a certified gang member based on information that came from a confidential informant used by county police, records state.

According to Abrego Garcia’s attorneys in his current case, the criminal informant had alleged that Abrego Garcia belonged to an MS-13 chapter in New York, where he has never lived.

The information was enough for an immigration judge in 2019 to keep Abrego Garcia in jail as his immigration case continued, court records state. The judge said the informant was proven and reliable and had verified his gang membership and rank.



IbogaProject

(4,259 posts)
68. The report and initial arrest were 2019
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 10:50 AM
Thursday

The "information" was from some alleged witness that a now fired corrupt non-federal cop reported. The county cop was fired for something separate.

BumRushDaShow

(150,860 posts)
57. "the city abolished the entire police department"
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 03:45 AM
Thursday

Yeah that is when Crispy Creme had the (overstretched) Camden County police take over duties in the city. They were a poster child for what happens when you have decades of corrupt cops. And the city paid the price. Never thought I'd see the day, but Camden has made a great come-back.

sheshe2

(91,353 posts)
6. If they had all this solid "evidence"...
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 08:27 PM
Wednesday

then he should have been charged and tried. It is called due process and it is the law which THEY in fact broke!

kkmarie

(124 posts)
62. And if they had
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 06:04 AM
Thursday

All this (bullshit made up) evidence why did they admit he was taken by mistake. That it was "an administrative error".

Once again they will convince 10s of millions that he was M13 and Krasnov has saved us from evil. And the news outlets will never play the clips or run the quotes of this Russian regime saying it was a mistake but tough shit.

unblock

(54,991 posts)
7. Wow, Chicago bulls cap and hoodies are evidence of being in ms-13!
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 08:28 PM
Wednesday

Every time you think they've hit peak racism, they outdo themselves....

Autumn

(47,713 posts)
10. Damn. My grandson has a Chicago Bulls hat and he wears a hoodie.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 08:34 PM
Wednesday

Whatever will i do. Jesus fucking christ. How stupid do these people think we are.

JohnSJ

(98,414 posts)
12. People are pretty stupid in this country, otherwise trump wouldn't be back in
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 08:38 PM
Wednesday

the WH.

louis-t

(24,237 posts)
13. He wears a Chicago Bulls cap.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 08:38 PM
Wednesday

BUT HE DOESN'T LIVE IN CHICAGO!!!! THE HORRORS!!!! I had that very argument with a maga nutcase today who believes Pam Bondi when she says "2 judges confirmed he was in a gang!!!" Except that's not what they said.

TomSlick

(12,323 posts)
24. Well, surely anyone wearing a Bulls cap that does not live at least near Chicago is suspect - of something.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 09:11 PM
Wednesday

To the extent needed:

tornado34jh

(1,439 posts)
14. Really? A Chicago Bulls hat? Wow, they are stupid
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 08:47 PM
Wednesday

If that is the case, then gee, everyone who wears a New York Yankees cap/jersey must be part of one of the Five Families of New York City, right? Also, are they suggesting if someone who is black wears a backwards baseball cap it qualifies as them being in the gang culture? Seems very much like racial profiling.

regnaD kciN

(26,965 posts)
15. "...in connection to a murder investigation..."
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 08:48 PM
Wednesday

In other words, they were investigating a murder (which may have been tied to MS-13), and decided to stop a couple of Latino-looking people outside a Home Depot.

If they had any serious evidence he was a gang member, fine -- bring him back to the U.S., file charges against him, and take it to trial. I'm waiting...

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(121,672 posts)
74. Latino-looking people outside a Home Depot
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 05:44 PM
Thursday

Probably looking for work as day laborers. You can see that outside of almost any Home Depot.

slightlv

(5,393 posts)
22. Your mind went where mine automatically went, too...
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 09:07 PM
Wednesday

The hoodie was Trayvon's problem, too, it seemed. This falls into the camp of just making shit up to cover your ass and fool as many as you can fool. If you had a decent track record of treating people ethically, you might be able to slip something like this into the press and have some really believe it.

But when you've got a known penchant for lying every time your mouth moves, and have been shown (and admitted yourself) to falsifying documents to benefit yourself, no one with a functioning brain cell is going to believe you, dumbshit.

Proof of life! We demand proof of life... then bring him back and give him due process. Present your evidence and see if you can make a case that sticks. Allow him to face his accusers and make his case. It's an adversarial system. You ought to function just fine in that way... you're acting adversarial to everything that is life as it is.

slightlv

(5,393 posts)
25. I actually like that idea.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 09:11 PM
Wednesday

Imagine if we'd adopt the bulls cap and a hoodie as the official "dress" whenever we protested. A sea of hoodies and ball caps at the front of all the state capitols. Hell, it beats what his brownshirts wear to their every demonstration! And it'd be a constant reminder of his terrorism to all people in America. The cap and hoodie on so many people at one time, being the hook that it is, would bring more eyes from the news on us, as well. And all of it a constant reminder being thrown back in trump's face that we will not allow the constitution to fall.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,085 posts)
47. In my opinion, this is a great idea.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 11:29 PM
Wednesday

Can you imagine, fathers, mothers and/or grandparents or even great-grandparents sporting a hoodie with a bulls cap. My kind of snark.

Probably both made in Chiiina

Aussie105

(6,962 posts)
20. We have evidence . . .
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 09:01 PM
Wednesday

Last edited Wed Apr 16, 2025, 10:45 PM - Edit history (1)

I put that 'evidence' at the same level as that of Putin saying Ukraine invaded Russia, and Israel claiming the Palestinian dead were all Hamas operatives, supporters, or just up to no good.

In short - there is the MS-13 bad guy, arrest him, deport him, we will make up the 'evidence' for doing so later.

Dan

(4,568 posts)
21. The problem as I see it, is this
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 09:02 PM
Wednesday

Who trusts Trump, his DOJ, or really any part of his Administration. They are stained by their association with Trump and ridiculed because to be part of Trump’s orbit you have to lie, lie and lie again. And even worse, once caught in a lie, then you have to lie about the lie, you were lying about.

CitizenZero

(748 posts)
26. No Due Process
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 09:12 PM
Wednesday

If they had real evidence they should have had a hearing before deportation and presented it to a judge. This lack of due process is both criminal and stupid. Just because the Federal Government suspects someone is a gang member does not give them the right to summarily deport that person. The lawlessness of this "administration" is stunning. It is criminal and fascist. I do not trust their post hoc "evidence".

Figarosmom

(5,211 posts)
27. "Arrested in connection to a murder
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 09:22 PM
Wednesday

Investigation " but no follow up? No indictment or trial? Means nothing if he was just released. And the court order protecting him from deportation is more important than what some cops or homeland security goons say they "freely admitted".

Javaman

(63,604 posts)
31. So what?
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 10:13 PM
Wednesday

They are trying to justify taking away a man’s rights by pushing a false narrative.

Fucking fascists

D. Spaulding

(167 posts)
32. So Homeland Security is now saying Garcia was found with "rolls of cash". This is where they got that from;
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 10:19 PM
Wednesday

In the arrest report, this is what they reported he was wearing;

Officers then interviewed Kilmar Armando ABREGO-GARCIA. During the interview officers
Thursday, March 28, 2019 Page 2 of 3
Admitted: Exh . B4
observed he was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoodie with rolls of money covering the eyes, ears
and mouth of the presidents on the separate denominations.


That's right; the bozos in DHS, particularly Assistant Secretary Dept. of Homeland Security Tricia McLaughlin, glanced thru that report and the idiot was so eager to have some misinformation to spread, that she reported Garcia had
"drugs, and rolls of cash" on his person. How stupid are these folks?

Botany

(73,843 posts)
36. I now have no doubt now that Garcia is dead and Krasnov's team is panicking.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 10:51 PM
Wednesday

And so this is a cover up is coming to up now. If he was guilty of this stuff how come no trial?

Botany

(73,843 posts)
42. Today was a real shit show of trying to put Senor Garca on trial with Bondi, Blondie McSpokesperson
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 11:16 PM
Wednesday

… lying, and bringing on a mother who lost her daughter to an immigrant and trying to link that
to señor garcia somehow.


Blondie McSpokesperson also tried to link the the problems of breaking the rule of law and due
process to Joe Biden and the Democrat Party. Bondi tried to blame the media for this mess.


Bluethroughu

(7,154 posts)
39. The whole country is full of Bulls hats, coats, jerseys
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 11:00 PM
Wednesday

And AIR JORDANS...we've been overthrown!


Bring him back along with the other 250+ people! Enough is enough!

You are either with the Constitution or you are against it!

ancianita

(40,290 posts)
40. "fitting the description" of MS-13 ..."wearing a Chicago Bulls cap and a hoodie" ...
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 11:14 PM
Wednesday

Can't wait to see Judge Xinis' reaction when the govt team presents this to her with a straight face.

Mblaze

(530 posts)
41. Then the Trump administration
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 11:15 PM
Wednesday

Should feel comfortable that they would prevail in a hearing after they follow the Constitution and bring Garcia home.

angrychair

(10,542 posts)
44. So their evidence
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 11:18 PM
Wednesday

Of him being in a gang is a hat and hearsay statement about him being in a gang in a place he has never lived?
Not even sure that's admissible in court.

Wednesdays

(20,480 posts)
72. Again, see my post #34, above.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:43 PM
Thursday

This is all for the court of public opinion, not for an actual criminal court.

Hornedfrog2000

(109 posts)
45. They just need something they can point at
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 11:20 PM
Wednesday

So their cultists can say trump showed evidence. Even though it never makes sense.

AncientOfDays

(231 posts)
46. For the full story
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 11:25 PM
Wednesday

Go to this site:
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/abrego-garcia-and-ms-13--what-do-we-know

Lengthy, but quite detailed.

Notes - the cop that first claimed Garcia was MS-13 was suspended because of misconduct just a few weeks later - in short, a corrupt cop

The trusted source (actually hearsay) claimed Garcia to be a member of a gang operating in New York - where Garcia had never been.

Now the latest is they're trying to claim he was an domestic abuser - haven't seen any actual evidence -- but if he goes on to rape and pedophilia he'll fit right in Republican culture.

SunSeeker

(55,464 posts)
48. This "evidence" was already presented at an immigration hearing in 2019, and Kilmar was allowed to stay.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 11:35 PM
Wednesday
Abrego Garcia later received an immigration protection called withholding of removal. Granting that protection required the Department of Homeland Security to decide Abrego Garcia was not "a danger to the security of the United States," Bier said, quoting U.S. immigration law.

"The Trump administration did not appeal these determinations or the granting of withholding of removal," Bier said. "So at that time, it did not consider him a threat and no new evidence has been presented since then."

https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/apr/14/fact-checking-nayib-bukele-and-trump-officials-on/

The Trump administration never appealed that 2019 determination, so as Trump’s bestie Bukele would say, "Oopsie...too late "

DallasNE

(7,752 posts)
59. So Trump 47 Is Saying
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 04:40 AM
Thursday

Trump 45 errored when they granted Garcia permanent status. Apparently they did not consider wearing a Chicago Bulls hat as evidence of gang activity. The evidence from 2019 has already been adjudicated by Trump 45 and Trump 47 offers no new evidence. So why is this such a hot button issue with Trump 47? Who is pressuring Trump on this matter and why?

SunSeeker

(55,464 posts)
60. His ego has gotten into it. He can't admit Kilmar was wrongly deported.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 04:42 AM
Thursday

And also, he wants to show he can disappear anyone he wants.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Zackzzzz

(55 posts)
53. How stupid do they think we are.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:37 AM
Thursday

Today, Patty Morin with Leavitt. Just another "showtime". RETURN MR. GARCIA.

Blue Full Moon

(2,034 posts)
56. So all Chicago Bulls fans who wear a hoodie are MS 13 members
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:52 AM
Thursday

Email the owner of the Chicago Bulls to ask him why fans should be harassed because they are wearing their merchandise

EndlessWire

(7,712 posts)
58. What a nonexistent case
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 04:33 AM
Thursday

Is THAT all they have?? They think we're stupid. This is just a lame excuse to cover up the contempt of court they are facing. I am starting to agree that he must be dead, although I haven't yet read what the visiting Senator said. This makes no sense unless you consider how it looks overall. This one is on rump. He's responsible. He can prove he's not dead by bringing him back.

I don't care what any phony "informant" said. In 2019, a Judge said that there was no case there. He was a straight arrow working an apprentice job, with a wife and daughter. If there was anything more, Bondi should have released it. Defamation of a guy they did wrong. Morally corrupt people.

Snatching him was someone getting even for 2019. That's what I think.

neohippie

(1,226 posts)
63. This circus is getting ridiculous
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 06:18 AM
Thursday

The evidence is complete bullshit.

Pam Bondi should know that in American courts and law being accused of something is not the same of being found guilty.

In America you are innocent until proven guilty. Now she trots out this supposed evidence. First of all a hat from one of the most popular sports teams and a hoody What a joke.

Then they claim that they have testimony from someone, well I could testify that this administration is criminal and treasonous

Then she claims that there were complaints about assault but if those charges were never taken to court and he was never found guilty then once again this is all just throwing crap on the wall to see if any of it sticks.

These people are trying to see if they can play us all as fools This judge is not going to buy the stories that they are selling and neither am I

If this man has no criminal convictions and they have nothing better than he wore a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoody or there was some kind of domestic disturbances then they need to stop playing games with the courts and stop acting in a completely lawless way and start following legal processes

They already admitted that mistakes were made, they tried to use the War act to suspend due process but were ordered that they couldn't because of the ALCU lawsuit. They disobeyed the immigration judges order from way back that forbid the US to deport him back to El Salvador. then disobeyed another court order that told them not to deport anyone on those planes and now they are disobeying the courts orders to provide information about who exactly disobeyed the orders and are found to be in criminal contempt

All the while they claim to be the party of law and order This is not justice this is the corrupt Department of Injustice This is not American values This is an assaults' on the rule of law and the US Constitution

This is the Dunning Kruger Effect in real life people who think that they are the smartest people in the room showing everyone that they are clearly not

Raine1967

(11,637 posts)
64. 'Mistakenly deported' now has turned into he's a criminal?
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 07:56 AM
Thursday

This makes no sense.

He's the father of an autistic child, there is no way he'd have time to be in a gang.

John1956PA

(3,935 posts)
66. I worked at a parking lot loader at a Home Depot Store in a short-term position last spring.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:19 AM
Thursday

As you can appreciate, a parking lot at The Home Depot is not an uncommon location for small groups of males of Mexican, El Salvadoran and Guatemalan origins to be present. They are present there as employees of contractors.

If a person is a member of a MS-13 gang, congregating at a parking lot of The Home Depot is not a logical activity.

PortTack

(35,546 posts)
69. These are the same docs from 2019...which were found to be very thin!
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:22 PM
Thursday

It doesn’t f..king matter! The guy did NOT receive due process…period!

TBF

(35,078 posts)
70. She is really scrambling - they must've killed him already.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:40 PM
Thursday

This looks like damage control.

BumRushDaShow

(150,860 posts)
78. Here is the story on othet sites
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:01 AM
Yesterday
NBC NEWS - New documents detail government's case that mistakenly deported man was a gang member

MSNBC NEWS - Trump officials attack Abrego Garcia’s personal life in push to defend removal

ABC NEWS - DOJ plans to appeal Abrego Garcia ruling, releases documents it says tie him to gang

News flash - Scripps goes back to 1878 (and has been the primary sponsor of that famous "Spelling Bee")

This was presented per COURT ORDER. Everything out of the 45 administration is bullshit RW propaganda but that doesn't mean that it can't be posted about when it is news that is impacting people.
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