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Native

(7,057 posts)
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:36 PM Monday

Why Trump and His Admin Are Publicly Mocking the Supreme Court

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by GP6971 (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Rolling Stone

...Trump and his administration, however, have changed their tune and are deliberately not complying with the court orders for several grim reasons, according to three people familiar with the situation.

There are plenty of officials in Trump's White House and government who don't want to give the news media what they'd deem a "win" or a "scalp," the sources say. On a practical and legal level, Trump aides and lieutenants worry that complying too readily or quickly with court orders -- or maybe even at all -- would open the floodgates to other challenges and due process claims by other migrants whom the Trump administration shipped to prison in El Salvador, a person close to Trump and an administration official tell Rolling Stone. They would much rather set the precedent that if they rendition a person to a foreign gulag, that person is staying there, no matter what.

Some Trump administration officials are simply concerned about optics and want to make it look like its policy of shipping migrants to prison in El Salvador is as ironclad as possible -- in part to act as a potential deterrent to undocumented people in the U.S. and migrants who'd want to come here, per the three sources.

Reasons aside, the administration is ultimately making a shockingly authoritarian argument with few parallels in American history: that it can send anyone, from U.S. soil, to a foreign prison, and no court can ensure the person's return. Indeed, Trump mused again on Monday about sending American citizens -- "homegrown" criminals, as he put it -- to El Salvador.

Read more: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-mocking-supreme-court-1235317269/



The article also mentioned that the administration is now saying the Supremes' order is void because "officials" have decided Garcia is a member of a gang, and they don't have to share any details about this with the court.

It also spends a couple of paragraphs covering Stephen Miller's comment this morning on Fox News that "We won the Supreme Court case, clearly, 9-0," and that Trump, Miller, and Bondi continued to pretend that they won the case during their Oval Office photo op with El Salvador's president. They were all agreeing that the 9-0 decision was in their favor, and Miller went on to say that SCOTUS found that "no district court has the power to compel the foreign policy function of the United States."

What the actual fuck!


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Dan

(4,568 posts)
1. From an old Country boy
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:49 PM
Monday

Trump (and his enablers) figure that if he ignores the SCOTUS and the public doesn’t make an uproar then they won.

Now, the question is where next should the goal posts be moved.

Because, he is King in all but name.

This will end in Concentration and Death camps.

PortTack

(35,546 posts)
2. Then SCOTUS needs to address this immediately! NO...they did not win and that is not what SCOTUS ruled!
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:55 PM
Monday

More lies to spew on fux!

bluestarone

(19,577 posts)
3. If he succeeds in a victory over the SC, then
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:56 PM
Monday

The religious right MAGA's will say he truly is the chosen one.

al_liberal

(472 posts)
4. I can think of 6 specific people that should top the list
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 04:07 PM
Monday

Of people to be sent to El Salvador for no other reason than them bringing upon themselves.

Mr.Bee

(618 posts)
5. Yes, America. You Voted For This.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 05:46 PM
Monday

You voted for Project 2025.
You voted for a dictator on day one.
You believed the lies that Biden was the worst President ever.
You voted for a man who would not concede and complained for years 2020 was 'stollen'.
You believed Project 2025 was a democrat myth and now you are being proven wrong.
No more excuses. Admit your disgrace. You voted for it all.
You not only voted for it, you enthusiastically cheered it on.

love_katz

(2,994 posts)
6. The people who voted for this and the people who didn't bother.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 05:59 PM
Monday

They won't read this, because they have non functional brains and evil in their souls.

thought crime

(145 posts)
9. But, but, but...the price of eggs!
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 06:10 PM
Monday

Mr.Bee

(618 posts)
11. I'm just tired of hearing the excuse
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:14 PM
Monday

'I didn't vote for this'
You Did.

damifino10

(84 posts)
7. SCOTUS VS. DOGE
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 06:09 PM
Monday

I am surprised that Musk hasn't gone in and wiped out the entire court. Non-compliance has started and I am betting more will follow. If so, who needs them? They are being neutered, cut their funding.
Roe vs Wade. Corporations being individuals and on an on9citizens United). Presidential immunity. They are useless. They have contributed greatly to the destruction of our country. If they are not pro democracy, shit can them.

Kid Berwyn

(19,970 posts)
8. This is what I suggested we do with traitors.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 06:10 PM
Monday

But, no.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,698 posts)
10. Andrew Weissmann says we have reached a Constitutional Crisis regarding the Abrego Garcia case
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 06:46 PM
Monday


BREAKING: Attorney Andrew Weissmann says we have reached a Constitutional Crisis regarding the Abrego Garcia case, after Trump and El Salvador President Bukele say he will not be returned to the U.S.

“I want to make sure people understand. We are here. I’ve tried to say we are not yet in that Constitutional crisis, [but] that is what is going on right now! This really is the rubicon that I was hoping we would never ever get to… This is where we are.”

jeffreyi

(2,334 posts)
12. A stress test for the system.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:20 PM
Monday

If there is a fatal flaw here, it needs to be fixed. They are just driving right on through. If there is no provision for this kind of lawlessness, it needs to be remedied. If there is ever opportunity again.

mcar

(44,457 posts)
13. ...
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:30 PM
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GP6971

(34,548 posts)
14. Locking per Host consensus. Analysis of already reported news.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:57 PM
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