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BumRushDaShow

(150,875 posts)
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 03:38 PM Apr 11

'Uprising' at major law firm that just cut a deal with Trump: report

Source: Raw Story

April 11, 2025 1:40PM ET


Attorneys working at a law firm that just cut a deal with President Donald Trump are reportedly in open revolt.

The Bulwark's Sam Stein reports that more than 500 associate attorneys and staff at Allen Overy Shearman Sterling US LLP signed a letter imploring the firm not to take an offer from Trump to do pro bono work on behalf of his administration in exchange for him not revoking security clearances.

The letter sent to leadership emphasizes that while the firm is "facing an unprecedented threat, and that there are no risk-free options in these circumstances" and then adds that "we firmly believe that agreements of this nature contribute to the degradation of the rule of law in the United States" and that "we firmly believe that a similar agreement would be detrimental to A&O Shearman’s business interests both in the United States and internationally, in terms of client relationships, employee retention, recruitment, and the firm’s US and global reputation, both now and in the future."

Stein describes the letter as an "uprising" against the firm's leadership and an indication that there is considerable dissent from within the legal community about resigning to the president's threats.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-law-firms-2671752951/

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'Uprising' at major law firm that just cut a deal with Trump: report (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 11 OP
They'll all have to be terminated b/c Trump fires everyone who disagrees with him. bucolic_frolic Apr 11 #1
LOL DENVERPOPS Apr 11 #35
None Henry203 Apr 11 #38
Is There a Work Stoppage? ruet Apr 11 #2
At least they are getting some push back and not accepting things. Biophilic Apr 11 #3
Exactly, or actually quit. JohnSJ Apr 11 #4
Everyone who touches trump in any way turns to crap and burns. mwb970 Apr 11 #5
This is open extortion by the POTUS. hadEnuf Apr 11 #6
You have hundreds of lawyers kacekwl Apr 11 #20
"Pro bono"??? WTF??? PatSeg Apr 11 #7
I wonder how much will be "election fairness" HereForTheParty Apr 11 #9
Good point PatSeg Apr 11 #24
They will now be Trump Crime Syndicate attorneys. Irish_Dem Apr 11 #26
All his dreams are coming true PatSeg Apr 11 #37
Yes Trump, his family, the entire Trump crime syndicate have free representation Irish_Dem Saturday #46
They must be feeling very self-satisfied and smug right about now PatSeg Saturday #57
Oh yes they think they are brilliant. Irish_Dem Saturday #59
sickening... stillcool Apr 11 #12
Damn, we lose the rule of law PatSeg Apr 11 #23
Susman will win Henry203 Apr 11 #39
Pro Bonered orangecrush Apr 11 #15
No kidding! calimary Apr 11 #29
Beware a cheap lawyer. usonian Apr 11 #18
I guess that's probably true PatSeg Apr 11 #25
How do you fire someone who works for free? usonian Apr 11 #31
On social media or email!!! PatSeg Apr 11 #36
And he won't yet say what cases. TommyT139 Apr 11 #32
Yes, his greed is only surpassed by his need PatSeg Saturday #47
"Who people are..." TommyT139 Saturday #54
I know that I have been rather shocked PatSeg Saturday #58
That was his MO in business since the beginning - don't pay anyone he owes for work they performed mdbl Saturday #44
Yes, why pay for anything if you don't have to? PatSeg Saturday #48
What if they accept the requirement to work for him pro bono but intentionally blow the cases? wnylib Saturday #60
You know, I was thinking the same thing PatSeg Saturday #61
Big Law is about profits, not the greater good HereForTheParty Apr 11 #8
Lawyers will represent who pays them Henry203 Saturday #52
Hope it's not too late to back out. Amaryllis Apr 11 #10
Caving will destroy the firm. bronxiteforever Apr 11 #11
Caving will destroy the rule of law - which will destroy the need for any lawyers. erronis Apr 11 #14
As in notinkansas Saturday #43
These are the same people who would be doing the pro bono work for the Trump administration. patphil Apr 11 #13
Exactly the got sold down the river by their bosses. Irish_Dem Apr 11 #27
Thank you, A&O Shearman. (nt) Paladin Apr 11 #16
Where the hell is the American Bar Association?? lastlib Apr 11 #17
Good question. ABA's crickets sound just like the crickets we heard a few years ago from the American Psychiatric Assoc. wordstroken Apr 11 #19
"Where the hell is the American Bar Association??" BumRushDaShow Apr 11 #21
500 attorneys should walk out. louis-t Apr 11 #22
I'm not a lawyer nor do I BaronChocula Apr 11 #28
you got that right Skittles Apr 11 #34
KnR Hekate Apr 11 #30
Post removed Post removed Apr 11 #33
I wonder how many of the 500 signers come from the 650 who report to a U.S. Office. pat_k Saturday #40
I think they are mostly from NYC Henry203 Saturday #50
Thanks so much for the insight! pat_k Saturday #62
How many of those employees voted for him? Asking for a friend.... live love laugh Saturday #41
Probably none Henry203 Saturday #51
They'd better stand strong flamingdem Saturday #42
Time to STAND UP like that ONE firm did; you'll win in court Callie1979 Saturday #45
Four firms did Henry203 Saturday #53
Good to know! And that firm who represented Trump standing WITH them Callie1979 Saturday #55
If your company has been touched by trump..... Turbineguy Saturday #49
If they are vulnerable to this level of extortion Ontheroad Saturday #56

bucolic_frolic

(49,814 posts)
1. They'll all have to be terminated b/c Trump fires everyone who disagrees with him.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 03:42 PM
Apr 11

Nice law firm you had.

mwb970

(11,824 posts)
5. Everyone who touches trump in any way turns to crap and burns.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 03:58 PM
Apr 11

Giuliani
Lindell
Musk
etc.
etc.
etc.

trump cultists are clearly on the wrong side of history and everyone knows it.

PatSeg

(50,080 posts)
7. "Pro bono"??? WTF???
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:23 PM
Apr 11

It is bad enough that he is threatening them, but then he wants them to work for FREE? Trump is definitely a Mob Boss, minus any commonsense or class.

Irish_Dem

(68,194 posts)
46. Yes Trump, his family, the entire Trump crime syndicate have free representation
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 08:59 AM
Saturday

by top law firms.

PatSeg

(50,080 posts)
57. They must be feeling very self-satisfied and smug right about now
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 01:05 PM
Saturday

It is not bound to end well for any of them though. It rarely does.

Irish_Dem

(68,194 posts)
59. Oh yes they think they are brilliant.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 02:10 PM
Saturday

They have manipulated everyone.
Trump is totally immune for any crimes he commits.
He can grant anyone a pardon when he leaves office.
And they all have totally free long term legal representation.

Plus they will be trillionaires when he leaves office.
They assume they are untouchable.

Yes I don't think it is going to end well for them.
They will be the most hated people on earth.

stillcool

(33,635 posts)
12. sickening...
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:38 PM
Apr 11
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/susman-godfrey-latest-target-in-trumps-growing-attacks-on-big-law
Trump Targets Law Firm Behind $787.5 Million Fox News Suit (4)
John Hughes
Reporter/Editor
President Donald Trump on Wednesday targeted Susman Godfrey with an executive order as an aide said the administration was close to $1 billion in deals with law firms.
-----------------------
Susman represented Dominion Voting Systems Inc. in a blockbuster defamation lawsuit against Fox Corp. in which the media company agreed to pay a $787.5 million settlement. The firm is also pursuing a defamation case against Mike Lindell, a well-known Trump advocate and chief executive officer of MyPillow, on behalf of Dominion.
“We signed with many law firms, the ones that we thought were inappropriate, and they’ve all agreed to pay,” Trump said in the Oval Office. “We have another five to go.”

While Trump has publicized four agreements with law firms that have promised $340 million in pro bono services for causes the president supports, aide Stephen Miller said the administration was getting close to $600 to $700 million in deals now, including those that haven’t been announced.

“The numbers are adding up,” Miller said in the Oval Office. “We’re going to be close to a billion soon.”


https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/susman-godfrey-latest-target-in-trumps-growing-attacks-on-big-law

PatSeg

(50,080 posts)
23. Damn, we lose the rule of law
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 05:59 PM
Apr 11

then we've lost our democracy for a very long time, maybe forever.

Henry203

(506 posts)
39. Susman will win
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:46 PM
Apr 11

And so will Jenner, Wilmer and Perkins. All the supreme comes from big legal. They will protect the lawyers. They will win 7-2.

usonian

(17,124 posts)
18. Beware a cheap lawyer.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 05:30 PM
Apr 11

At best you get interns. At worst, you get AI, and if the case falls apart:

WE USED GROK.
MUSK SAYS IT'S BETTER THAN LAWYERS. AND GOD.

PatSeg

(50,080 posts)
25. I guess that's probably true
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 06:18 PM
Apr 11

and if we're lucky, they'll even sabotage his cases intentionally. Of course, it would be better to just say "No".

TommyT139

(1,230 posts)
32. And he won't yet say what cases.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 07:21 PM
Apr 11

Dollars to donuts he'll go for maximum humiliation and send them to do his dirty deportation work.

He has mentioned tariffs and coal -- but you just know he wants to rub their noses in how he's forcing them to be as corrupt as he is.

PatSeg

(50,080 posts)
47. Yes, his greed is only surpassed by his need
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 10:34 AM
Saturday

for revenge. All his demented dreams are coming true and while he has the power, he will use it until the end. He does have a talent for revealing who people really are at their core though.

PatSeg

(50,080 posts)
58. I know that I have been rather shocked
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 01:08 PM
Saturday

by so many of them. I'm kind of numb right now.

mdbl

(6,188 posts)
44. That was his MO in business since the beginning - don't pay anyone he owes for work they performed
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 07:58 AM
Saturday

PatSeg

(50,080 posts)
48. Yes, why pay for anything if you don't have to?
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 10:35 AM
Saturday

Sometimes, it is just a challenge to see how much you can get without paying for it.

wnylib

(25,232 posts)
60. What if they accept the requirement to work for him pro bono but intentionally blow the cases?
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 03:04 PM
Saturday

If caught doing that, they'd be in trouble for it, but if clever enough, they could do a subtle screw up that has plausibility.

PatSeg

(50,080 posts)
61. You know, I was thinking the same thing
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 07:01 PM
Saturday

Like the stories about people who sabotaged the manufacture of vehicles and weapons for the Nazis during World War II. There's all kinds of resistance.

Henry203

(506 posts)
52. Lawyers will represent who pays them
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 11:22 AM
Saturday

I have a good friend who beat the DOJ in the Bob McConnell case. Bob was the governor of Virginia and conservatives. My friend is a screaming liberal and represented McConnell.

erronis

(19,011 posts)
14. Caving will destroy the rule of law - which will destroy the need for any lawyers.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:46 PM
Apr 11

Law schools can start issuing Toadie Doctorates instead of JD or LLDs. And they can be reclassified as "Clown Schools".

patphil

(7,676 posts)
13. These are the same people who would be doing the pro bono work for the Trump administration.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:41 PM
Apr 11

They don't want that shit on their hands.

Irish_Dem

(68,194 posts)
27. Exactly the got sold down the river by their bosses.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 06:21 PM
Apr 11

Will be Trump and pals personal attorneys.

lastlib

(25,735 posts)
17. Where the hell is the American Bar Association??
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 05:13 PM
Apr 11

They should be screaming to high heaven about these "deals" with the devil! They, more than perhaps any organization on the planet, should be asserting their influence to protect the rule of law, and aiding these firms in standing up to the lawless regime they confront.

Maybe I'm missing something, but so far, all I'm hearing is crickets.

wordstroken

(1,057 posts)
19. Good question. ABA's crickets sound just like the crickets we heard a few years ago from the American Psychiatric Assoc.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 05:35 PM
Apr 11

when psychiatrist Dr. Bandy Lee and her colleagues tried to warn us.
🔕 🤐

BaronChocula

(2,642 posts)
28. I'm not a lawyer nor do I
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 06:33 PM
Apr 11

run a big firm, but I'm amazed at what appears to be a lack of fight for what's right among so many people.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

pat_k

(11,143 posts)
40. I wonder how many of the 500 signers come from the 650 who report to a U.S. Office.
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 12:40 AM
Saturday

I'm guessing the 500 signers are from the 4000 lawyers they employ globally, but it would be great if a vast majority of the signers were actually drawn from the 650 who report to a U.S. Office.

AI summary:
Allen Overy Shearman Sterling (A&O Shearman) LLP, formed by the merger of Allen & Overy and Shearman & Sterling, has nearly 4,000 lawyers globally. Approximately 650 of these attorneys report to a U.S. office, according to A&O Shearman.

Henry203

(506 posts)
50. I think they are mostly from NYC
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 11:15 AM
Saturday

I work in big legal. I had many friends at Shearman. All of the top management went to Gibson Dunn about 9 months ago. I had less friends at Allen. AO is a west coast firm.

Henry203

(506 posts)
51. Probably none
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 11:18 AM
Saturday

I work in big legal. I knew all the senior management. About 9 months ago they all went over to Gibson Dunn. I still have their business cards.

flamingdem

(40,356 posts)
42. They'd better stand strong
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 02:24 AM
Saturday

or our nation is screwed. Turns out lawyers don't have spine pretty much.

Everything IS about money in this country. Principles not so much.

Callie1979

(652 posts)
45. Time to STAND UP like that ONE firm did; you'll win in court
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 08:02 AM
Saturday

What he's doing is ILLEGAL; call him on it
These wussies are pissing me off; I'll bet ALL of them are 10-100 millionaires; they have the ability to "survive" trumps assaults

Henry203

(506 posts)
53. Four firms did
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 11:26 AM
Saturday

Wilmer Hale is being represented by Paul Clement, Perkins Coie by Williams Connolly, Jenner Block by Cooley llp and Susman Godfrey by Munger Tolles.
I met with Williams Connelly last week. I am supposed to meet with Jenner next week.

Callie1979

(652 posts)
55. Good to know! And that firm who represented Trump standing WITH them
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 12:06 PM
Saturday

This shit is a threat to ALL of us.

Ontheroad

(17 posts)
56. If they are vulnerable to this level of extortion
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 01:05 PM
Saturday

they should not be eligible for security clearances.

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