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mahatmakanejeeves

(64,324 posts)
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 07:08 AM Apr 11

U.S. Military Removes Commander of Greenland Base After Vance Visit

Source: New YorkTimes

U.S. Military Removes Commander of Greenland Base After Vance Visit

Although the military did not say why the colonel had been dismissed, it said it would not tolerate any subversion of President Trump's agenda.


Col. Susannah Meyers, left, has been removed from her post as the commander of the U.S. Space Force's Pituffik base in Greenland. Jim Watson/Agence France-Presse -- Getty Images

By Qasim Nauman
April 11, 2025, 1:44 a.m. ET

The U.S. military announced on Thursday that it had removed the commander of its Pituffik base in Greenland, adding that it would not tolerate any actions that go against President Trump's agenda. ... The decision to remove Col. Susannah Meyers was announced in a statement by the U.S. Space Force that was posted on social media by Sean Parnell, the chief spokesman for the Pentagon.

While the statement didn't cite a specific reason for her removal, Mr. Parnell said that "actions to undermine the chain of command or to subvert President Trump's agenda will not be tolerated." ... Mr. Parnell's post contained a link to an article by Military.com, (1) an independent news organization, that said Colonel Meyers had sent an email to base staff distancing herself from Vice President JD Vance's visit on March 28.

{snip}

On March 31, Colonel Meyers emailed the staff at Pituffik saying that the concerns of the Trump administration as expressed by Mr. Vance did not reflect the views of the base leadership, according to excerpts published by Military.com.

{snip}

Colonel Meyers became the commander of the 821st Space Base Group, which runs Pituffik, last July.

(1) https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/04/10/space-force-commander-greenland-sent-out-email-breaking-vance-after-his-visit.html

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/11/world/europe/greenland-pituffik-vance-miltary-commander.html



https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/04/10/space-force-commander-greenland-sent-out-email-breaking-vance-after-his-visit.html

Space Force Commander in Greenland Sent Out Email Breaking with Vance After His Visit


U.S. Space Force Col. Susan Meyers, 821st Space Base Group commander, left, greets Vice President JD Vance and Second Lady Usha Vance at Pituffik Space Base, Greenland, March 28, 2025. (U.S. Space Force photo by Staff Sgt. Jaime Sanchez)

Military.com | By Thomas Novelly
Published April 10, 2025 at 2:52pm ET

Just days after Vice President JD Vance's March visit to Pituffik Space Base in Greenland, the installation commander sent out an email to the base distancing it from Vance’s criticism of Denmark and its oversight of the territory, Military.com has learned.

Col. Susan Meyers, the commander of the 821st Space Base Group who also oversees the Pentagon's northernmost military base, sent a March 31 message to all personnel at Pituffik seemingly aimed at generating unity among the airmen and Guardians, as well as the Canadians, Danes and Greenlanders who work there, following Vance's appearance. She wrote that she "spent the weekend thinking about Friday's visit -- the actions taken, the words spoken, and how it must have affected each of you."

"I do not presume to understand current politics, but what I do know is the concerns of the U.S. administration discussed by Vice President Vance on Friday are not reflective of Pituffik Space Base," Meyers wrote in the email, which was communicated to Military.com.

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Space Force Fires Colonel Over Vance Comments
April 11, 2025

https://www.joemygod.com/2025/04/space-force-fires-colonel-over-vance-comments/
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U.S. Military Removes Commander of Greenland Base After Vance Visit (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Apr 11 OP
Link dhol82 Apr 11 #1
Perhaps the person was removed because s/he could speak to beardo's complete humiliation SheltieLover Apr 11 #2
She committed diplomacy muriel_volestrangler Apr 11 #4
The look on Beardo's face and his body language clearly show he's not happy dealing with a woman in authority. sop Apr 11 #6
His wife is as big a pos as he is. Involved in destroying India... SheltieLover Apr 11 #8
"Space Force Commander in Greenland Sent Out Email Breaking with Vance After His Visit" sl8 Apr 11 #3
Good for her!!! SheltieLover Apr 11 #9
I interpret her email more as encouragement to personnel than pushback. Either way, the tRump regime is petty & nuts. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 11 #52
So petty. Ray Bruns Apr 11 #5
Jesus H. Christ! Can this silly-assed administration go even one single day without reeking of weenie? SalamanderSleeps Apr 11 #7
Did they tell her they may want to take Greenland by force dreamland Apr 11 #10
My first thought too. appleannie1 Apr 11 #59
As much as I dislike Dotard and the Little Corporal, she was stupid for sending such an email. Norrrm Apr 11 #11
I stand with the Colonel, gab13by13 Apr 11 #15
Yep. I like her stance but she is low on the totem pole. Norrrm Apr 11 #17
Stupid? Look who she's dealing with! GusBob Apr 11 #21
Yep. Norrrm Apr 11 #25
She knew what she was doing. Easterncedar Apr 11 #40
She is a military leader who places integrity and courage above subservience Mysterian Apr 11 #63
OK. I acknowledge your superior intellect. Norrrm Apr 11 #64
Cool by me Mysterian Apr 11 #67
The CIC, Krasnov, gab13by13 Apr 11 #12
Yes the military parade is a big turning point. Irish_Dem Apr 11 #18
Clearly they did not tolerate a WOMAN in such a high position. TNNurse Apr 11 #13
And there bdamomma Apr 11 #19
Punishing Loyal Leadership Kid Berwyn Apr 11 #14
Well said. gab13by13 Apr 11 #16
Any dissent toward the Fuhrer will not be tolerated. hadEnuf Apr 11 #20
Leaders, ACTUAL leaders, speak up k_buddy762 Apr 11 #22
Wrongthink A Badger Apr 11 #23
The email shows she is insufficiently loyal to lead the organization that could become our "tip of the spear". CincyDem Apr 11 #24
Also a pretty safe bet that she will be replaced by a man. tanyev Apr 11 #27
1000% correct...and white guy at that...probably with a shaved head and a dubious disciplinary record. CincyDem Apr 11 #33
That was one of my first thoughts when this Greenland stuff came up... IthinkThereforeIAM Apr 11 #60
Dangerous times. Solly Mack Apr 11 #26
Only sycophants need apply. Competence is not a requirement. surfered Apr 11 #28
One obvious "problem" is that she's a woman LymphocyteLover Apr 11 #29
A woman with a backbone will not be tolerated The Blue Flower Apr 11 #30
clearly only pro-Greenland annexation soldiers allowed in this fascist admin LymphocyteLover Apr 11 #31
First thought--"she's a woman," second thought, not an ass-kisser. Timeflyer Apr 11 #32
Erasing women WVlaserguy Apr 11 #34
She distanced herself from Krasnov & JD Guyliner? Botany Apr 11 #35
Only problem was She failed to kiss the ass of the fascist Dictator's sidekick IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 11 #36
Probably didn't help JD's mood any that he was freezing his ass off. Girard442 Apr 11 #37
They want a Trump loyalist who will go along with whatever outrageous nonsense IronLionZion Apr 11 #38
This, and the fact that she is female. johnnyfins Apr 11 #44
As a female officer, she knew her time was up Easterncedar Apr 11 #39
She. Her. --- That was all I needed to see. Oopsie Daisy Apr 11 #41
Shes a bit too Hornedfrog2000 Apr 11 #42
Beyond scary. We now have a military (is this frim the dry drunk?) that sinkingfeeling Apr 11 #43
As soon as I saw the picture I said to myself, removed because she is a woman. Fla Dem Apr 11 #45
Quote by JD Vance about tRump. multigraincracker Apr 11 #46
Funny how women in our govt have the guts to stand up for what's right mdbl Apr 11 #47
Is Vance's face botoxed into a snarl, or does it come from within? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 11 #48
We are learning the weaknesses of our particular system of government 70sEraVet Apr 11 #49
That the commander is "she" is all we really needed to know. niyad Apr 11 #50
Military resistance or even opposition to Presidential intent tends to be rare. When contrary views move from personal 24601 Apr 11 #51
Shes a woman, that's why Trump removed her. BradBo Apr 11 #53
Bingo! PortTack Apr 11 #54
Commander bromeando Apr 11 #55
The U.S. military announced ..... it would not tolerate any actions that go against President Trump's agenda Hotler Apr 11 #56
This is easy... Biglinda 52 Apr 11 #57
To replace her with someone more favorable to Putin and Russian endeavors... IthinkThereforeIAM Apr 11 #58
That's a quick way to get relieved of Command madville Apr 11 #61
As much as I despise Vance and loathe Trump, officers DO NOT undermine civilian authority. A Colonel may not state artemisia1 Apr 11 #62
A Badge of Honor for Col. Meyers thought crime Apr 11 #65
Hasn't military service always required snot Apr 11 #66

SheltieLover

(66,483 posts)
2. Perhaps the person was removed because s/he could speak to beardo's complete humiliation
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 07:16 AM
Apr 11

Just guessing of course.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,460 posts)
4. She committed diplomacy
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 07:25 AM
Apr 11
Col. Susan Meyers, the commander of the 821st Space Base Group who also oversees the Pentagon's northernmost military base, sent a March 31 message to all personnel at Pituffik seemingly aimed at generating unity among the airmen and Guardians, as well as the Canadians, Danes and Greenlanders who work there, following Vance's appearance. She wrote that she "spent the weekend thinking about Friday's visit -- the actions taken, the words spoken, and how it must have affected each of you."

"I do not presume to understand current politics, but what I do know is the concerns of the U.S. administration discussed by Vice President Vance on Friday are not reflective of Pituffik Space Base," Meyers wrote in the email, which was communicated to Military.com.
...
"I commit that, for as long as I am lucky enough to lead this base, all of our flags will fly proudly -- together," Meyers' email message to the base read.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/04/10/space-force-commander-greenland-sent-out-email-breaking-vance-after-his-visit.html

Trying to keep a military base functioning efficiently and smoothly, without rancour? A fireable offence, when the civilian authoritarians need to pretend that All Is Not Well.

sop

(13,727 posts)
6. The look on Beardo's face and his body language clearly show he's not happy dealing with a woman in authority.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 07:32 AM
Apr 11

His wife's expression reveals the opposite.

sl8

(16,324 posts)
3. "Space Force Commander in Greenland Sent Out Email Breaking with Vance After His Visit"
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 07:22 AM
Apr 11

This is the Miltary.com article referenced in Parnell's post and the NYT article.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/04/10/space-force-commander-greenland-sent-out-email-breaking-vance-after-his-visit.html

Space Force Commander in Greenland Sent Out Email Breaking with Vance After His Visit

Military.com | By Thomas Novelly
Published April 10, 2025 at 2:52pm ET

Just days after Vice President JD Vance's March visit to Pituffik Space Base in Greenland, the installation commander sent out an email to the base distancing it from Vance’s criticism of Denmark and its oversight of the territory, Military.com has learned.

Col. Susan Meyers, the commander of the 821st Space Base Group who also oversees the Pentagon's northernmost military base, sent a March 31 message to all personnel at Pituffik seemingly aimed at generating unity among the airmen and Guardians, as well as the Canadians, Danes and Greenlanders who work there, following Vance's appearance. She wrote that she "spent the weekend thinking about Friday's visit -- the actions taken, the words spoken, and how it must have affected each of you."

"I do not presume to understand current politics, but what I do know is the concerns of the U.S. administration discussed by Vice President Vance on Friday are not reflective of Pituffik Space Base," Meyers wrote in the email, which was communicated to Military.com.

The emailed remarks, confirmed as accurate to Military.com by the Space Force, mark a rare pushback within the ranks of the Trump administration's repeated criticism and critiques of NATO members and longtime allies. A source familiar with the email said it was sent to all base personnel, including those from Denmark and Greenland on the installation.

[...]


Bernardo de La Paz

(54,741 posts)
52. I interpret her email more as encouragement to personnel than pushback. Either way, the tRump regime is petty & nuts. nt
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:57 AM
Apr 11

dreamland

(1,074 posts)
10. Did they tell her they may want to take Greenland by force
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 07:46 AM
Apr 11

Else why would she express concerns that their views do not aline when their presence.

Norrrm

(1,208 posts)
11. As much as I dislike Dotard and the Little Corporal, she was stupid for sending such an email.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 07:50 AM
Apr 11

She must be too isolated up there to not understand their modus operandi.

gab13by13

(27,709 posts)
15. I stand with the Colonel,
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 07:56 AM
Apr 11

The person who said inappropriate things, who sent inappropriate messages, was JD Vance. Maybe the colonel was sincere when she pledged allegiance to the Constitution?

GusBob

(7,858 posts)
21. Stupid? Look who she's dealing with!
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 08:19 AM
Apr 11

In a perfect world it would not be wise to send such a message

But in this new reality she had the guts to put her foot down

Clearly Vance said some things that were wrong and probably illegal. Think about what he could say for just , I dunno, one second. At the time they were talking about a military option.

Clearly, very very clearly, she is not a ‘just following orders type’

Mysterian

(5,537 posts)
63. She is a military leader who places integrity and courage above subservience
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 07:35 PM
Apr 11

You called that stupid so you know nothing about good leadership.

gab13by13

(27,709 posts)
12. The CIC, Krasnov,
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 07:50 AM
Apr 11

wants anyone who refuses to fluff him to be designated a traitor.

He is slowly gaining control of the military which is essential for dictators.

A military parade will be symbolic of the military's switch from allegiance to the Constitution to allegiance to Krasnov.

The next step would be to change the oath.

Irish_Dem

(68,172 posts)
18. Yes the military parade is a big turning point.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 08:07 AM
Apr 11

I wonder when the US military all have to wear those little gold Trump pins on their uniforms.

TNNurse

(7,309 posts)
13. Clearly they did not tolerate a WOMAN in such a high position.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 07:54 AM
Apr 11

They need to get some incompetent white male in there who will do as they are told.

Kid Berwyn

(19,970 posts)
14. Punishing Loyal Leadership
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 07:56 AM
Apr 11

US Space Forces personnel swear to uphold the Constitution, not a traitor’s fragile ego.

Col. Meyers is a Patriot.

hadEnuf

(3,110 posts)
20. Any dissent toward the Fuhrer will not be tolerated.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 08:11 AM
Apr 11

How long before people start being shot for this?

k_buddy762

(51 posts)
22. Leaders, ACTUAL leaders, speak up
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 08:22 AM
Apr 11

And yet when this leader spoke up, and spoke out, she was immediately removed. Can't have the truth getting out!

CincyDem

(7,074 posts)
24. The email shows she is insufficiently loyal to lead the organization that could become our "tip of the spear".
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 08:27 AM
Apr 11

Greenland may well become our Crimea and only the most loyal loyalists will be entrusted with planning and logistics details.

She was in charge of what will likely be the staging area for such a move.

Next steps:

Replace her with a loyalist of higher rank sufficient to command a larger ground force (how much higher probably indicates potential troop strength).

Change the base name back to Thule. Symbolic but it sends the message that we’re not there to blend in with “the locals”.

All imho of course.




CincyDem

(7,074 posts)
33. 1000% correct...and white guy at that...probably with a shaved head and a dubious disciplinary record.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 08:53 AM
Apr 11

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,170 posts)
60. That was one of my first thoughts when this Greenland stuff came up...
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:43 AM
Apr 11

... So Der Dingleberry* can pretend he is just like Putin, having a rare earth minerals rich "inbetween us", territory to attempt to steal. I will bet that Der Dingleberry* goes to sleep at night with a smile on his face hoping to dream about such.



*: "Dingleberry" has multiple meanings: it can refer to a piece of dried fecal matter clinging to the fur around the anus, a type of cranberry (Vaccinium erythrocarpum, also known as southern mountain cranberry), or informally, a foolish, stupid, or contemptible person.

Slang for dried fecal matter:
"Dingleberry" is a slang term for a piece of dried fecal matter that clings to the hair around the anus, particularly in the context of animals, especially dogs.

Botany

(73,843 posts)
35. She distanced herself from Krasnov & JD Guyliner?
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:04 AM
Apr 11

That would make her a real patriot.

Btw. Guyliner has a face that needs to be punched. Just saying.

IrishBubbaLiberal

(1,365 posts)
36. Only problem was She failed to kiss the ass of the fascist Dictator's sidekick
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:05 AM
Apr 11

The Fascist Dictator got pissed she failed to kiss the fascist’s sidekick.

Girard442

(6,617 posts)
37. Probably didn't help JD's mood any that he was freezing his ass off.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:19 AM
Apr 11

Someone who wasn't totally up his own ass would have been clever enough to get tips on the right gear from Col. Meyers.

IronLionZion

(48,488 posts)
38. They want a Trump loyalist who will go along with whatever outrageous nonsense
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:20 AM
Apr 11

such as taking over Greenland by force.

Easterncedar

(4,246 posts)
39. As a female officer, she knew her time was up
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:21 AM
Apr 11

The message was her considered final word.

The purging of women from command roles ought to be illegal, right?

sinkingfeeling

(55,052 posts)
43. Beyond scary. We now have a military (is this frim the dry drunk?) that
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:36 AM
Apr 11

will "not tolerate any actions that go against President Trump's agenda."
So much for the services standing against TSF's desire to invade peaceful allies or killing citizens.

No need for diplomacy.

Fla Dem

(26,508 posts)
45. As soon as I saw the picture I said to myself, removed because she is a woman.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:37 AM
Apr 11

As many other DUer's who replied to this post have also stated.

multigraincracker

(35,446 posts)
46. Quote by JD Vance about tRump.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:39 AM
Apr 11

"I'm a Never Trump guy."

"My god, what an idiot."

"America's Hitler”

"Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation's highest office."

"I can't stomach Trump."

mdbl

(6,188 posts)
47. Funny how women in our govt have the guts to stand up for what's right
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:42 AM
Apr 11

and the weenie men just cower like a bunch of beaten dogs.

70sEraVet

(4,448 posts)
49. We are learning the weaknesses of our particular system of government
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:51 AM
Apr 11

The President should not have the unrestrained capability to remake the military to suit his or her ambitions. Throwing aside talented leadership, simply to ensure that every voice will be the voice of a cheerleader, is unhealthy in any organization -- but it can be catastrophic, when it happens within the world's most powerful military!

24601

(4,070 posts)
51. Military resistance or even opposition to Presidential intent tends to be rare. When contrary views move from personal
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:56 AM
Apr 11

to public, or even official channels, there are consequences.

For example, President Carter signed “U.S. Policy in Korea Presidential Directive/NSC-12” on the 5th of May, 1977. The Directive addressed reducing the number of US troops in Korea.

[From the Army War College] https://press.armywarcollege.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2761&context=parameters

"Major General John K. Singlaub, chief of staff of US forces in Korea, made comments understood to be off-the-record during an interview with Washington Post reporter John Saar in Seoul.21 The most inflammatory segment of the interview captured Singlaub’s contention, “If U.S. ground troops are withdrawn on the schedule suggested, it will lead to war.”"

"On May 21, 1977, President Carter officially relieved General Singlaub of his position as a result of his comments."

"During his June 8, 1977, commencement address at the United States Military Academy, Secretary of the Army Clifford Alexander Jr. took a hard line on military subordination. He outlined three distinct forums, with variable degrees of independence. First, military officers were free to offer opinions within their chain of command until a decision was reached. Second, when appearing before Congress, an officer is free to express a personal opinion but is bound to cite and support policy. Lastly, when dealing with the media, an officer should know when a policy is established or still under discussion and express that to the media. [my emphasis] Alexander warned, “Attempts to achieve outside the chain of command what one could not achieve inside the chain of command are out of keeping with this tradition [of the president as commander in chief] and inconsistent with military professionalism.”

Hotler

(12,988 posts)
56. The U.S. military announced ..... it would not tolerate any actions that go against President Trump's agenda
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:36 AM
Apr 11

I guess our military is now a fascist unit. You're going to want a gun.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,170 posts)
58. To replace her with someone more favorable to Putin and Russian endeavors...
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:46 AM
Apr 11

... That is no doubt our most important radar installation for the DEW (Distant Early Warning) system or whatever it is called now.

I am sure the gender bias is playing a big part, but there is more to consider.

madville

(7,640 posts)
61. That's a quick way to get relieved of Command
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:38 PM
Apr 11

Under any Administration. I saw many CO’s get relieved during my two decades in the military, I can’t recall one doing anything quite like this though, only thing kinda similar would be a couple during COVID. Maybe it was intentional, like she was forcing them to relieve her from command and assigning her somewhere else instead of outright resigning.

artemisia1

(982 posts)
62. As much as I despise Vance and loathe Trump, officers DO NOT undermine civilian authority. A Colonel may not state
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 05:37 PM
Apr 11

that her base (a United States Command), does not represent the views of the current Administration. Anyone who's spent a day in uniform knows this. She was out of line and her firing was justified.

And no, two wrongs don't make a right. Pointing out how despicable Trump's/Vance's comments and policies are does not excuse this level of insubordination. Colonels run places like Junta-era Argentina -- not the U.S..

Presidents, Obama, Clinton and Carter ALL fired senior officers who did this.

snot

(11,021 posts)
66. Hasn't military service always required
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:50 PM
Apr 11

the suppression of thinking for oneself in favor of obedience?

Which is why I'd never have considered entering the military.

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