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BumRushDaShow

(150,860 posts)
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 08:18 PM Apr 10

Scoop: Top Senate Dems propose emergency Social Security payment boost

Source: Axios

6 hours ago


Top Senate Democrats plan to unveil legislation that would provide an emergency $200 monthly increase in Social Security benefits through the end of the year, Axios has learned.

Why it matters: It's the party's latest effort to highlight the Trump administration's tariff policies and now-scrapped DOGE-driven plans for service reductions to the popular benefits program.

  • Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) will introduce the Social Security Emergency Inflation Relief Act, according to a source familiar with the plans.
  • It's a brainchild of the caucus's Social Security War Room.


  • Driving the news: The Democrats argue that the $200-a-month increase is necessary to shield beneficiaries from price increases stemming from Trump's tariff policies.

  • Economists have warned that the levies are likely to drive inflation and — unlike in 2022 — that wages may struggle to keep up.
  • The Social Security Administration this week backed off plans to drastically cut phone services after weeks of confusion and outcry.
  • Democrats argue that their proposal shows a clear contrast with Republicans on entitlements, pointing to the GOP's plans to cut spending — and potentially Medicaid benefits — through budget reconciliation.


  • What they're saying: In an op-ed in the Financial Times on Wednesday, Warren called on Republicans to "stand ready to expand social security — not gut it — by passing an emergency, temporary adjustment."

  • Schumer said on the Senate floor Thursday that Republicans "want to gut" Social Security.

  • Top congressional Republicans have said they have no plans to reduce Social Security benefits.


  • Read more: https://www.axios.com/2025/04/10/chuck-schumer-elizabeth-warren-senate-democrats-social-security
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    Scoop: Top Senate Dems propose emergency Social Security payment boost (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 10 OP
    I think that's a terrible idea. It drives inflation too, and will be unevenly applied. bucolic_frolic Apr 10 #1
    Yeah, I am not down with it either AKwannabe Apr 10 #2
    Every single penny in Social Security comes from American Workers SnoopDog Apr 10 #5
    Inflation? Pandemic STIM. More money chasing fewer goods. bucolic_frolic Apr 10 #7
    Only a good idea during inflation. There is no inflation Bernardo de La Paz Apr 10 #8
    So you are against any employee getting a raise in their paycheck? SnoopDog Apr 11 #20
    Nonsense. Not applicable. Orthogonal to this discussion. Powder dry only on the goose SSI idea. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 11 #22
    Got it. You have no response to logic... SnoopDog Apr 11 #24
    You were illogical. You tried to put words in my mouth that are nonsense. Logically I am not against paycheck increases Bernardo de La Paz Apr 11 #25
    tldr NJCher Apr 11 #27
    More people will sign up for it. Igel Apr 10 #12
    So you are saying that there are retirees that do not take SS? Because... SnoopDog Apr 11 #23
    My dad waited until 70 to start taking his madville Apr 11 #30
    Glad you and your family are rich. But, SnoopDog Apr 11 #33
    You said it was ridiculous madville Apr 11 #36
    I agree Rebl2 Apr 11 #31
    So, even COLA raises are bad - right? SnoopDog Apr 11 #34
    Nonsense. Now you try to stuff words into Rebl2's mouth. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 11 #37
    No Rebl2 Apr 11 #43
    I like that it's an actual amount and not a percentage womanofthehills Apr 11 #39
    Interesting concept. James48 Apr 10 #3
    This is a great idea SnoopDog Apr 10 #4
    SS already has COLA. They're not going to pass an adjustment for inflation that hasn't happened yet. (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 10 #6
    Count me as one of those seniors who'd be praising slightlv Apr 10 #10
    Same here. ShazzieB Apr 10 #16
    Few politicians have ever lost votes because they handed out money. Igel Apr 10 #13
    COLA vs Chump BidenRocks Apr 10 #17
    Democrats need to concentrate on preserving SS Skittles Apr 10 #9
    It's just a messaging ploy madville Apr 11 #28
    yeah Skittles Apr 11 #38
    Exactly Rebl2 Apr 11 #32
    I do not find getting $200 more on SS a gimmick womanofthehills Apr 11 #40
    no one said getting more money would be a bad thing Skittles Apr 11 #42
    All I know is that I won't be sending it back if I get it. dchill Apr 10 #11
    The GOP will surely force a rule change so they don't have to fucking vote on it, as they've been doing to so Karasu Apr 10 #14
    I oppose this unless there is a plan (eg, to raise the contribution rates or cap) spooky3 Apr 10 #15
    One reason that I see this as a good idea is for those seniors Marie Marie Apr 10 #18
    They shouldn't have their 401k tied to the markets madville Apr 11 #26
    Financial advisers have LONG advocated that you need 60% of spooky3 Apr 11 #29
    It's really all about individual risk tolerance madville Apr 11 #35
    Rethugs would never stand for it Bayard Apr 11 #19
    There should be stimulus checks for EVERYONE. milestogo Apr 11 #21
    After our terribly low 2.5% COLA, any increase would be great! Number9Dream Apr 11 #41
    Turning it into a conversation forces trump's bad policies into the spotlight right away. Torchlight Apr 11 #44

    bucolic_frolic

    (49,809 posts)
    1. I think that's a terrible idea. It drives inflation too, and will be unevenly applied.
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 08:24 PM
    Apr 10

    What happens to those not yet taking SS? Eligibility is a long window. Some lose out because of that. High earners will want % increases, not $200.

    AKwannabe

    (6,722 posts)
    2. Yeah, I am not down with it either
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 08:35 PM
    Apr 10

    But who asked me???

    (Only cuz rich peeps who draw are gonna get it t too). Fuckers.

    SnoopDog

    (2,682 posts)
    5. Every single penny in Social Security comes from American Workers
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 08:51 PM
    Apr 10

    Inflation? Bull-crap. This is a great idea for retirees.

    bucolic_frolic

    (49,809 posts)
    7. Inflation? Pandemic STIM. More money chasing fewer goods.
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 08:57 PM
    Apr 10

    Retailers raised prices because they could.

    Bernardo de La Paz

    (54,741 posts)
    8. Only a good idea during inflation. There is no inflation
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 10:00 PM
    Apr 10

    ... yet

    Dems should keep their powder dry until later when it would really help seniors rather than trying to score political points now.

    SnoopDog

    (2,682 posts)
    20. So you are against any employee getting a raise in their paycheck?
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:13 AM
    Apr 11

    It applies to seniors and SS as well. And powder dry? Reminds me when Gore’s presidency was stolen from him and all the little Democrats said to not fight it and ‘keep the powder dry’. Look where that got us…

    Bernardo de La Paz

    (54,741 posts)
    22. Nonsense. Not applicable. Orthogonal to this discussion. Powder dry only on the goose SSI idea. . . . nt
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:17 AM
    Apr 11

    Bernardo de La Paz

    (54,741 posts)
    25. You were illogical. You tried to put words in my mouth that are nonsense. Logically I am not against paycheck increases
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:39 AM
    Apr 11

    Logically, to be against goosing SSI during uncertain times is unrelated to fair wages. I am not against paycheck increases that are in line with ordinary labour market and capital market forces. For example, I support unions and unionization, which are at lower levels than is healthy. Stronger unions will mean paycheck increases. Capiche?

    As to your example of Gore, that is orthogonal to the economic issue of goosing SSI. That votes issue is not related to the inflation level. That votes issue is not related to economic stimulus. To be clear for you: I like the activism of Senator Booker and AOC and dislike Schumer's softly softly approach. But their activity has nothing to do with the economics of goosing SSI at this time.

    Inflation is low now. It is expected to get higher, but it might also tip into deflation if there is the widespread economic damage I expect tRump is creating. In uncertain times, before unknown big moves, keep the powder dry. That is logical and prudent.

    Anytime you try to stuff words into DU members mouths, expect pushback.

    Igel

    (36,703 posts)
    12. More people will sign up for it.
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 10:21 PM
    Apr 10

    This will increase the draw-down by a considerable amount.

    The trust fund's due to run out and unless something happens--more taxpayers contributing in financial redistribution from workers to retirees--to make up the shortfall, that'll be about a 25% reduction in payments.

    Every single penny in SS comes from American workers. But those pennies are countable and and finite in number. It means some get more now so that others (and some continuees) get less. As a younger Boomer I'd like to not have my pay-in entirely expended on older Boomers, so that my retirement is funded by income redistribution from younger workers--facing higher taxes if Our Democracy decides a 25% reduction in benefits is merited.

    And, yes. Inflation. I explained inflation in a nutshell to a night-school student today, tying in excess demand. She got it. In fact, she thought anything other than inflation was insane: People have $ and want to buy something, they bid up the price or the seller increases the price to sell current production to make the max amount of money. Otherwise, the manufacturer sells the same amount but people show up saying, "I'd have paid more!" And the response has to be, "Sorry, we don't want to make more money. Our families, our retiree-investors, our institutional investors, they don't really care about increasing their income, their standards of living or the services they can provide."

    SnoopDog

    (2,682 posts)
    23. So you are saying that there are retirees that do not take SS? Because...
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:18 AM
    Apr 11

    They are waiting for a better return? Ridiculous.

    And what’s up with the inflation deflection? Businesses raise their prices just because they can.

    madville

    (7,640 posts)
    30. My dad waited until 70 to start taking his
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:57 AM
    Apr 11

    For two main reasons, one he was still working so it would have gotten penalized to nothing anyway.

    Second reason was that any amount of time you delay starting it past retirement age, (66 in his case) up to age 70, it significantly increases the benefit. My parents are getting around $6300 a month now because he waited, it’s a couple of thousand more a month than if they had taken it a few years earlier.

    So yes, there are some people that delay drawing it in order to eventually receive higher benefits. A temporary increase of $200 a month isn’t going to change most peoples’ plan or strategy though in that regard.

    SnoopDog

    (2,682 posts)
    33. Glad you and your family are rich. But,
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 12:17 PM
    Apr 11

    For some people, receiving $200 more in SS would mean a world of difference in their quality of life.

    madville

    (7,640 posts)
    36. You said it was ridiculous
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:27 PM
    Apr 11

    That some people wait to collect their social security because it increases the benefit. Latest stats say 23% of people delay receiving benefits past their Full Retirement Age FRA. Not only is it not ridiculous, it’s quite common today and the percentage is increasing as people work longer into their late 60s and early 70s.

    My point was that a temporary $200 a month increase by itself is not going to sway most people who are already planning on delaying past FRA to suddenly start taking it, when waiting say another year might mean a $300-500 a month increase.

    This isn’t a serious proposal anyway, it’s an attempt to get votes on record for or against it, has zero chance of passing and getting signed. The article specifically states that and it’s just for future campaign messaging.

    Bernardo de La Paz

    (54,741 posts)
    37. Nonsense. Now you try to stuff words into Rebl2's mouth.
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 01:38 PM
    Apr 11

    Plus $2.3 Trillion is not enough. No point in draining it now in the face of upcoming declines in inflow due to impending job losses.

    Rebl2

    (16,152 posts)
    43. No
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 05:04 PM
    Apr 11

    Cola’s are fine. The emergency 200 dollars is what I am talking about that will draw SS down. I said nothing about yearly cola payments we get at the first of each year.

    womanofthehills

    (9,636 posts)
    39. I like that it's an actual amount and not a percentage
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 03:10 PM
    Apr 11

    the average income person would get less if it was a percentage. Warren has for yrs spoken about giving people on SS under a certain amount a flat amt instead of percentage.

    James48

    (4,804 posts)
    3. Interesting concept.
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 08:36 PM
    Apr 10

    But I don’t yet know how that will sell in Peoria.

    Trial balloons are always interesting.

    SnoopDog

    (2,682 posts)
    4. This is a great idea
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 08:48 PM
    Apr 10

    Many on SS do not receive enough to live on. It's our money and I agree totally that this is a great idea.

    I can't imagine ANY Democrat or anybody for that matter not wanting seniors to live a more decent life with an increase to SS.

    thesquanderer

    (12,567 posts)
    6. SS already has COLA. They're not going to pass an adjustment for inflation that hasn't happened yet. (n/t)
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 08:53 PM
    Apr 10

    slightlv

    (5,393 posts)
    10. Count me as one of those seniors who'd be praising
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 10:04 PM
    Apr 10

    any increase we could get! Our piddling little amount is barely enough to keep us alive, even after cutting every "luxury" we can cut, including 3 meals a day.

    We got our checks today... a week early. Not sure what's up with that, but it's worrisome that the consistency of payments is off. Plus, I have to dig a bit deeper because it doesn't look like the full amount we should have gotten. A week early is okay... but what if next month it's a week or two late? Having a set day on which to receive payments is important when you play it the bone like we do. How do we plan what we pay and when, if we don't have any idea when that check will get here? Instead of being relieved the check was deposited, I'm now worried what the inconsistency means. Thus, I don't even get a one-month reprieve from anxiety. I want these men put out of our misery as quickly as possible. I'd love it if the ghost of christmas future would visit trump and elon tonight!

    ShazzieB

    (20,217 posts)
    16. Same here.
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 11:04 PM
    Apr 10

    Mr. B and I could really use those few extra dollars. Evidently some here would begrudge us that small extra boost. C'est la vie.

    Igel

    (36,703 posts)
    13. Few politicians have ever lost votes because they handed out money.
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 10:23 PM
    Apr 10

    It's not their money.

    In fact, by handing out that "free" money it means they're more likely to keep their jobs, their power, and their side gigs--which can be converted into money.

    That's a party-neutral assertion.

    BidenRocks

    (1,322 posts)
    17. COLA vs Chump
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 11:13 PM
    Apr 10

    COLA didn't last 3 weeks before we gave it back.
    Eggs, gas and rising insurance killed COLA.
    I'll be 70 and want the money to enjoy my "Golden Years".
    Steak is a memory. So are vacations.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

    madville

    (7,640 posts)
    28. It's just a messaging ploy
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:47 AM
    Apr 11

    It has zero chance of passing, as the article states “The bill has no future in the Senate under Republican leadership. But it could still be a useful messaging tool for Democrats.”

    womanofthehills

    (9,636 posts)
    40. I do not find getting $200 more on SS a gimmick
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 03:12 PM
    Apr 11

    Esp since we see so much of our tax money go to other countries - not Americans.

    Skittles

    (163,407 posts)
    42. no one said getting more money would be a bad thing
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:48 PM
    Apr 11

    but the very idea this would happen when DOGE is actively trying to destroy SS is RIDICULOUS

    dchill

    (42,009 posts)
    11. All I know is that I won't be sending it back if I get it.
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 10:19 PM
    Apr 10

    $200 a month is a reasonable COLA right about now.

    Karasu

    (942 posts)
    14. The GOP will surely force a rule change so they don't have to fucking vote on it, as they've been doing to so
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 10:49 PM
    Apr 10

    much other shit lately. They need to be called out on that LOUDLY ever single fucking time they do it--to the point that the average American can actually hear it through all the normalization of insanity in this country.

    spooky3

    (37,336 posts)
    15. I oppose this unless there is a plan (eg, to raise the contribution rates or cap)
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 11:03 PM
    Apr 10

    To pay for it. Even without benefit increases we need changes to ensure SS’s continued solvency.

    Marie Marie

    (10,147 posts)
    18. One reason that I see this as a good idea is for those seniors
    Thu Apr 10, 2025, 11:20 PM
    Apr 10

    who have had to supplement their monthly SS benefit with withdrawals from their 401Ks - those same 401Ks that have lost significant value from Trump's macho tariff antics. If you are not currently drawing from your retirement savings, you can wait it out for a few years and see if the market will go back up but if you are in need of that money now - you are screwed. That would be helpful to our neediest seniors.

    However, given that Trump and HIS government caused this and because it would only be through the end of this year, I say take that money not out of the SS fund but from the general revenue. If we can give much more than that to the rich in tax cuts, we can afford a measly $200 a month for 8 months to our seniors. I know - never gonna happen.

    madville

    (7,640 posts)
    26. They shouldn't have their 401k tied to the markets
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:43 AM
    Apr 11

    At that stage of the game. Once they start approaching or hit retirement age and start drawing, they should have their investments in lower risk funds/securities, like those comprised of bonds that are returning around 4% right now.

    Once in retirement mode, leaving a 401k in high risk funds/securities directly tied to the markets is always a potential recipe for short term disaster as we’ve seen in 2000, 2008, 2020, and now.

    spooky3

    (37,336 posts)
    29. Financial advisers have LONG advocated that you need 60% of
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:52 AM
    Apr 11

    Your money in stocks in retirement. This is because most alternatives available to most of us do NOT have returns that keep up with inflation. If you are retired for 20-30 years or more, you could easily run out of money without a substantial part of your portfolio in stocks.

    Why do you think that the default target mutual funds in 401ks are a mix of S&P, international stocks, and bond indexes?

    Please do the research on this. I see posts like this all over social media, and it just shows me that a lot of people need better financial advisers and/or are endangering their retirements.

    madville

    (7,640 posts)
    35. It's really all about individual risk tolerance
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 12:31 PM
    Apr 11

    Common guidance has been to have no more than 40-50% in stocks past age 60, and 20-40% at most past age 70, of course that should vary depending on one’s individual situation, are they still working, when are they going to draw social security, do they draw other pensions like military, VA comp, federal or railroad retirement, municipal or state retirement, etc, etc.

    Another general rule has long been to subtract your age from 100 and that’s how much exposure one should have to the stock markets, like 100-60=40%, 100-75=25%, etc. If someone is dependent on withdrawals from their fund, they’re playing with fire having 60% or more directly tied to the markets.

    I’d like to see a source recommending 60% or more be allocated to stocks past one’s retirement date (especially past age 60), that’s a significant amount of risk as we are seeing. Maybe a younger person that say “retires” at age 50 or something and has more time to recover from the inevitable downturns.



    Bayard

    (24,746 posts)
    19. Rethugs would never stand for it
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 12:40 AM
    Apr 11

    They don't want us to have SS at all, but, they still want to hand out billions to billionaires.

    We could sure use it.

    milestogo

    (20,276 posts)
    21. There should be stimulus checks for EVERYONE.
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:17 AM
    Apr 11

    I heard this morning that the average person will pay $4700 more this year because of tariffs.

    Number9Dream

    (1,759 posts)
    41. After our terribly low 2.5% COLA, any increase would be great!
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 04:27 PM
    Apr 11

    Don't tell me there's no inflation. Our prescriptions have tripled and quadrupled lately. Our school taxes have shot up. Gas went from $2.96 to $3.40.

    Torchlight

    (4,536 posts)
    44. Turning it into a conversation forces trump's bad policies into the spotlight right away.
    Fri Apr 11, 2025, 05:16 PM
    Apr 11

    Using compare-and-contrast is especially powerful because it not only clarifies the strengths of a new approach, but also exposes the weaknesses and shortcomings of the one it replaces.

    It's as stark a policy contrast as can be seen.

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