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highplainsdem

(55,477 posts)
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 02:09 PM Mar 18

Trump, Putin agree to Russia-Ukraine energy infrastructure ceasefire for 30 days

Source: Reuters

Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed on Tuesday to a proposal by U.S. President Donald Trump that Russia and Ukraine cease attacking each other's energy infrastructure for 30 days, the Kremlin said following a lengthy phone discussion between the leaders.

The two countries plan to begin negotiations "immediately" in the Middle East on a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea, according to a readout from the White House.

Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed on Tuesday to a proposal by U.S. President Donald Trump that Russia and Ukraine cease attacking each other's energy infrastructure for 30 days, the Kremlin said following a lengthy phone discussion between the leaders.

The two countries plan to begin negotiations "immediately" in the Middle East on a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea, according to a readout from the White House.

-snip-

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/trump-hold-call-with-putin-test-deal-making-strength-2025-03-18/



Sounds like this mostly benefits Putin, and he can continue killing Ukraine's civilians and destroying their homes.

Some "ceasefire"...
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Trump, Putin agree to Russia-Ukraine energy infrastructure ceasefire for 30 days (Original Post) highplainsdem Mar 18 OP
Man, Trump is totally being played by Putin. SunSeeker Mar 18 #1
I think knowingly and willingly. erronis Mar 18 #9
Trump knows exactly what he is doing. Irish_Dem Mar 18 #17
Of course. It's not like Trump doesn't realize he's screwing Ukraine and helping Russia. SunSeeker Mar 18 #18
Yes it is very easy to manipulate Trump. Irish_Dem Mar 18 #19
And if Ukraine attacks russian infrastructure, trump will take sides with putin erronis Mar 18 #2
An excuse to stop aid and Starlink for Ukraine. Putin has struck vital Ukrainian infrastructure before highplainsdem Mar 18 #7
Ukraine should just say...oops! PortTack Mar 18 #20
Two snakes making a deal with each other Walleye Mar 18 #3
But- what does UKRAINE have to say about this?? nitpicked Mar 18 #4
+1 nt berniesandersmittens Mar 18 #24
Link to The Hill nitpicked Mar 18 #5
From the BBC: analysis nitpicked Mar 18 #6
I don't understand how that analyst thinks a ceasefire restricted to energy infrastructure protects highplainsdem Mar 18 #10
I don't trust putin to honor this. In fact I know he'll dishonor it. erronis Mar 18 #11
Hopefully Ukraine will tell both Putin and the convicted felon to shove. republianmushroom Mar 18 #8
Ukraine wasn't asked its opinion. But I agree, they should tell the US/USSR to shove it. erronis Mar 18 #13
That is no f**king ceasefire if people can still be targets. Will anyone actually call them out on this fraud from the JohnSJ Mar 18 #12
How is it a negotiation when one of the parties isn't evolved? Does TSF now 'represent' Ukraine? sinkingfeeling Mar 18 #14
Since Ukraine is blowing the fsck out of Putin's oil refineries, pipelines, and storage, of course Putin agreed. eggplant Mar 18 #15
Wait, wait, wait. The Felon and Putin have agreed to this? Buddyzbuddy Mar 18 #16
Pootie wants this because Ukraine has been spot on with taking out their refineries and storage facilities PortTack Mar 18 #21
Putin's most punishing strikes on Ukraine have been on population centres with no strategic value Emrys Mar 18 #22
One would think, by reading articles like this, slightlv Mar 18 #23
The f..ker bombed a kindergarten bldg yesterday.....so he can do that but not energy infrastructure PortTack Mar 18 #25
Don't trust the orange turd or his russian counterpart, Ukraine. republianmushroom Mar 18 #26

Irish_Dem

(68,333 posts)
17. Trump knows exactly what he is doing.
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 03:33 PM
Mar 18

He owes Putin big time and Putin is promising him even more.

SunSeeker

(55,481 posts)
18. Of course. It's not like Trump doesn't realize he's screwing Ukraine and helping Russia.
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 03:37 PM
Mar 18

But Trump was set up by Putin to be his (willing) asset years ago. And Putin is playing him like a fiddle.

Irish_Dem

(68,333 posts)
19. Yes it is very easy to manipulate Trump.
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 03:39 PM
Mar 18

He is mentally ill with obvious buttons to push.

And yes Trump knows full well he is screwing Ukraine.
And enjoying it.

erronis

(19,094 posts)
2. And if Ukraine attacks russian infrastructure, trump will take sides with putin
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 02:14 PM
Mar 18

and use it as an excuse to attack Ukraine.

highplainsdem

(55,477 posts)
7. An excuse to stop aid and Starlink for Ukraine. Putin has struck vital Ukrainian infrastructure before
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 02:25 PM
Mar 18

and sometimes called it an accident.

So he can keep killing Ukraine's people, and Ukraine can't attack his refineries and ships.

This is NOT a real ceasefire.

nitpicked

(1,091 posts)
6. From the BBC: analysis
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 02:23 PM
Mar 18
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c3e4xzd8qq8t


Analysis
Gains and losses for both sides in this
published at 14:18
14:18

Frank Gardner
Security correspondent reporting from Germany

A ‘frank’ exchange in a phone call is usually a diplomatic nicety for sharp differences of opinion, bordering on a row.

President Trump may well be privately disappointed that he has not been able to get his Russian counterpart to sign up to the comprehensive 30-day ceasefire deal - on land, sea and in the air - that his team thrashed out recently with the Ukrainians in Jeddah.

But the 30-day pause in attacks on energy infrastructure, as announced today, will still come as a relief to war weary Ukrainian civilians.

Militarily, that may not necessarily suit Ukraine. While its ground forces have been pulling back, both in Kursk and in parts of the frontline in Ukraine, its long-range drone attacks have been scoring a lot of direct hits on Russian oil installations. This in turn has had an impact on Russian military logistics, but will now have to pause.

Here in Germany President Putin was described today by the Defence Minister Boris Pistorius as ‘the greatest threat to European security. Speaking before the Trump-Putin phone call, he said Putin’s actions and reactions proved he had no interest in peace.
(snip)

highplainsdem

(55,477 posts)
10. I don't understand how that analyst thinks a ceasefire restricted to energy infrastructure protects
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 02:33 PM
Mar 18

civilians.

This is solely about protecting Russian refineries and then Russian ships in the Black Sea, the Russian targets Putin is most concerned about.

This ceasefire would cripple Ukraine's ability to respond effectively to Russian aggression.

erronis

(19,094 posts)
11. I don't trust putin to honor this. In fact I know he'll dishonor it.
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 02:39 PM
Mar 18

That's his style, along with trump's.

republianmushroom

(19,500 posts)
8. Hopefully Ukraine will tell both Putin and the convicted felon to shove.
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 02:32 PM
Mar 18

Some cease fire for Putin not so good for Ukraine.

JohnSJ

(98,430 posts)
12. That is no f**king ceasefire if people can still be targets. Will anyone actually call them out on this fraud from the
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 02:39 PM
Mar 18

MSM?

Highly doubtful.


eggplant

(4,054 posts)
15. Since Ukraine is blowing the fsck out of Putin's oil refineries, pipelines, and storage, of course Putin agreed.
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 03:13 PM
Mar 18

Putin is killing people more than infrastructure.

Buddyzbuddy

(718 posts)
16. Wait, wait, wait. The Felon and Putin have agreed to this?
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 03:25 PM
Mar 18

Am I missing something? Did President Zelensky give the Felon his proxy with carte blanche to negotiate on his behalf? Since when does the "readout from the Whitehouse" become trusted journalism.
"The Kremlin said" Well that's good enough I guess. Where does the article say "after speaking with, Ukrainian officials or even unamed source for Ukraine?"
So if Ukraine doesn't agree or they do fire on an energy structure or doesn't now begin negotiating maritime cease fires then Ukraine is at fault and becomes the bad guy?
Nice try Vlad and Whitehouse and Reuters for getting their narrative out.

PortTack

(35,555 posts)
21. Pootie wants this because Ukraine has been spot on with taking out their refineries and storage facilities
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 05:10 PM
Mar 18

This helps Russia ten fold more than Ukraine

Emrys

(8,574 posts)
22. Putin's most punishing strikes on Ukraine have been on population centres with no strategic value
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 05:23 PM
Mar 18

Ukraine, meanwhile, has consistently targeted strategic assets.

I don't see any possible partial ceasefire like this lasting long, and as having anything other than symbolic value anyway.

Still Russia hedges the agreement with arrogant unrealistic demands.

If the Ukrainians don't play ball, no fair-minded rational actor could judge them harshly.

slightlv

(5,397 posts)
23. One would think, by reading articles like this,
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 06:40 PM
Mar 18

that Russia was at war with the united states, instead of Ukraine. I don't care what the issue is, if it impacts that war, nothing should happen without Ukraine's knowledge and consent. Trump has made it clear he doesn't represent Ukraine, or hold it in any kind of sovereign respect. This is just busybody, nosy, "look at me" performance art from trump. But the war is killing REAL people. He needs to butt out.

PortTack

(35,555 posts)
25. The f..ker bombed a kindergarten bldg yesterday.....so he can do that but not energy infrastructure
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 07:15 PM
Mar 18

Deals with not just one devil..but two!

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