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BumRushDaShow

(150,990 posts)
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 01:39 PM Mar 17

Trump's border czar: "I don't care what the judges think"

Source: Axios

2 hour ago


President Trump's border czar Tom Homan on Monday doubled down on the decision to defy a court order that barred the deportation of alleged Venezuelan gang members.

Why it matters: The White House's decision to disregard a federal judge's order has set up a legal battle that could make its way to the Supreme Court and define the limits of Trump's deportation powers.

Driving the news: Homan claimed in a Fox News interview Monday that the two deportation flights to El Salvador did not need to be turned around because they were already above international waters when the order came through.

  • "We are going to make this country safe again ... I'm proud to be a part of this administration. We are not stopping. I don't care what the judges think. I don't care what the Left thinks. We're coming," he added.
  • Asked what was coming next in the administration's deportation efforts, Homan said: "Another flight. Another flight every day."


  • Catch up quick: By going through with the flights, the White House effectively ignored U.S. District Judge James Boasberg's Saturday order barring the deportation of about 250 Venezuelans under the Alien Enemies Act of 1789.

  • White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a statement the judge's order had "no lawful basis" and "was issued after terrorist TdA aliens had already been removed from U.S. territory."
  • It's not clear how many of the immigrants were deported under the 18th century law or other immigration statutes. It's likewise unclear what process was used to determine whether all the people on the flights were members of the Tren de Aragua gang, as the administration claimed.


  • Read more: https://www.axios.com/2025/03/17/tom-homan-deportation-flights-trump-court-order
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    Trump's border czar: "I don't care what the judges think" (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 17 OP
    Jail him for contempt of court Sanity Claws Mar 17 #1
    who would arrest him? mike_c Mar 17 #10
    since laws dont matter have local cops do it moonshinegnomie Mar 17 #16
    Same people who would kacekwl Mar 17 #27
    that's just it mike_c Mar 17 #28
    Regardless of what he might think* he doesn't have "presidential immunity." MLWR Mar 17 #15
    HE needs his ass pulled in undere oath! bluestarone Mar 17 #2
    Even under oath, he'll lie sakabatou Mar 17 #30
    There you have it: the 3rd branch of Gubmint is rendered moot. maxsolomon Mar 17 #3
    Right. What judges think is for lawyers and appeal judges to think about. A court order is a lawful order Bernardo de La Paz Mar 17 #7
    Only if they are enforced, so far they haven't been enforced. republianmushroom Mar 17 #21
    Lack of enforcement does not negate the legality of the order. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 17 #22
    Without enforcement orders is means squat. republianmushroom Mar 17 #23
    Logically, that is a separate issue. Unrelated to legality. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 17 #24
    Justice Department defends deportation flights, telling judge that his oral order "is not enforceable" republianmushroom Mar 17 #25
    "not enforceable" is not "illegal". I don't know why you are having difficulty understanding the logical distinction.nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 17 #26
    He really should care johnnyfins Mar 17 #4
    I wouldn't bet on that. republianmushroom Mar 17 #20
    You're prolly right. Wishful thinking I guess johnnyfins Mar 17 #29
    Why are these judges all bark but no bite?? Omnipresent Mar 17 #5
    They have "heard it all" BumRushDaShow Mar 17 #9
    Who is going to hold them accountable? IronLionZion Mar 17 #6
    No laws for the cheeto tyrant and his minions. Solly Mack Mar 17 #8
    How long until American citizens are labeled as "dangerous terrorists"? Docreed2003 Mar 17 #11
    trump is already doing that, practically every day, slightlv Mar 17 #14
    What a piece bdamomma Mar 17 #12
    I just want some judge to actually call these bastards to a court room. (IF they don't show, go through the process) bluestarone Mar 17 #13
    He sounds nuts in interviews. A complete thug. nt Exp Mar 17 #17
    Is it time for pitchforks & torches yet? rickyhall Mar 17 #18
    The thinking of all of the convicted felon's administration. republianmushroom Mar 17 #19

    mike_c

    (36,526 posts)
    10. who would arrest him?
    Mon Mar 17, 2025, 02:13 PM
    Mar 17

    The Congress creates the laws, the Judiciary interprets them, and the Executive enforces them. At the federal level, who has the power to arrest and hold perpetrators but officers of the Executive branch? They all work for the orange shit-gibbon and his minions now. I don't even think the Supreme Court will be able to rein him in if he loses in court. Who would they send to arrest him if he ignores their orders? He'd have to be impeached and removed from office first.

    moonshinegnomie

    (3,308 posts)
    16. since laws dont matter have local cops do it
    Mon Mar 17, 2025, 04:05 PM
    Mar 17

    and then lock him up in an undisclosed prison.
    if the administration wants to violate the constitution no reason the judge shouldnt also.

    bluestarone

    (19,606 posts)
    2. HE needs his ass pulled in undere oath!
    Mon Mar 17, 2025, 01:42 PM
    Mar 17

    Then jail him for not appearing! (i'm sure he won't show.

    maxsolomon

    (36,348 posts)
    3. There you have it: the 3rd branch of Gubmint is rendered moot.
    Mon Mar 17, 2025, 01:45 PM
    Mar 17

    It's not what judges THINK; it's what they order.

    The "over international waters" claim? Probably BS.

    Bernardo de La Paz

    (54,785 posts)
    7. Right. What judges think is for lawyers and appeal judges to think about. A court order is a lawful order
    Mon Mar 17, 2025, 01:56 PM
    Mar 17

    A court order is a lawful order unless and until stayed or reversed by a higher court.

    republianmushroom

    (19,500 posts)
    25. Justice Department defends deportation flights, telling judge that his oral order "is not enforceable"
    Mon Mar 17, 2025, 06:02 PM
    Mar 17

    Bernardo de La Paz

    (54,785 posts)
    26. "not enforceable" is not "illegal". I don't know why you are having difficulty understanding the logical distinction.nt
    Mon Mar 17, 2025, 06:04 PM
    Mar 17

    johnnyfins

    (1,979 posts)
    4. He really should care
    Mon Mar 17, 2025, 01:48 PM
    Mar 17

    There will probably come a time where he is before a judge, with a "left" leaning jury that will decide his fate. Don't be too arrogant, dumb dumb.

    BumRushDaShow

    (150,990 posts)
    9. They have "heard it all"
    Mon Mar 17, 2025, 02:01 PM
    Mar 17

    and it's like "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" syndrome to them. They have become (naturally) numb to the theatrics that goes on in a typical courtroom. But eventually the wolf DOES appear and starts eating the sheep, and they need to snap out of it and start taking it seriously.

    Docreed2003

    (18,133 posts)
    11. How long until American citizens are labeled as "dangerous terrorists"?
    Mon Mar 17, 2025, 02:14 PM
    Mar 17

    Because if there is no rule of law, you know it's only a matter of time

    slightlv

    (5,397 posts)
    14. trump is already doing that, practically every day,
    Mon Mar 17, 2025, 03:38 PM
    Mar 17

    over one incident or another. Whatever doesn't go the way he wants it, he labels the recalcitrant a democrat terrorist. I'm waiting until they've collected all our information, including voting information through the years, and jail us simply for being democrat... that happens when they've made the word "democrat" synonymous with "terrorist." And they're working really, really, really hard at it at this very moment.

    bdamomma

    (68,028 posts)
    12. What a piece
    Mon Mar 17, 2025, 02:51 PM
    Mar 17

    of dung he is. I want to see this swamp creature go back where he came from.

    Also insinuating "the left" just stop with the projection.

    bluestarone

    (19,606 posts)
    13. I just want some judge to actually call these bastards to a court room. (IF they don't show, go through the process)
    Mon Mar 17, 2025, 03:30 PM
    Mar 17

    So we can actually make a statement that our constitution is being attacked. WE'LL take it from thereif the fucking DOJ and Supreme court doesn't do their job!

    republianmushroom

    (19,500 posts)
    19. The thinking of all of the convicted felon's administration.
    Mon Mar 17, 2025, 04:54 PM
    Mar 17

    Screw you judge, what due you know and you don't have any control over us.

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