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BumRushDaShow

(150,876 posts)
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 03:05 PM Mar 10

House Democrats whip "NO" on GOP plan to avoid government shutdown

Source: Axios

2 hours ago


House Democratic leaders are urging their members to oppose the stopgap spending bill Republicans plan to bring to the floor on Tuesday, according to aides and lawmakers. This raises the likelihood that the government could shut down on March 14.

Why it matters: Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y) is trying to impose party unity ahead of a showdown with Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), even if it opens Democrats to charges they played a role in shutting down the government.

  • Jeffries' moves also put him on a potential collision course with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), who has counseled his members not to entertain the prospect of a government shutdown.


  • Zoom in: Jeffries wants to show his members and his base that he's willing to confront Republicans in defense of a federal bureaucracy that they say is under assault from President Trump and Elon Musk.

  • Both Jeffries and Johnson know that their strength derives from the unity they can achieve in their party.
  • Johnson has talked about relying only on GOP votes, but senior Republicans are eyeing the 13 House Democrats in Trump districts to get a bill across the line.


  • What they're saying: "Democrats are urged to VOTE NO on the CR," according to a whip notice sent to lawmakers.


    Read more: https://www.axios.com/2025/03/10/house-democrats-jeffries-government-shutdown



    The issue isn't really the House because the GOP can threaten to get their votes. It's to make sure that the Senate doe NOT have 7 (D)s/(I)s cross over to vote for the (bad) C.R.
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    House Democrats whip "NO" on GOP plan to avoid government shutdown (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 10 OP
    Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 10 #1
    Bull NoRethugFriends Mar 10 #3
    Who cares what they will say? NYC Liberal Mar 10 #4
    Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 10 #9
    They'll stay home anyway. mac56 Mar 10 #10
    The government is already effectively shut down BumRushDaShow Mar 10 #7
    Double bluestarone Mar 10 #11
    LOL Thanks for chiming in, Sparky Mysterian Mar 10 #13
    Alternatively vote JustAnotherGen Mar 10 #2
    About time. republianmushroom Mar 10 #5
    I don't see how this ends well for us Miguelito Loveless Mar 10 #6
    "Opposing the bill" is what they would be doing when they vote "no" BumRushDaShow Mar 10 #8
    I understand. Miguelito Loveless Mar 10 #14
    There is no "blame" except to the GOP when the government has already been functionally shut down BumRushDaShow Mar 11 #16
    I am not arguing against this, I agree with you. Miguelito Loveless Mar 11 #17
    They *always blame Democrats* BumRushDaShow Mar 11 #18
    Absolutely true Miguelito Loveless Mar 11 #19
    We just had an election where the gloves were taken off BumRushDaShow Mar 11 #21
    Voting no is the only thing to do. They're effectively shutting down the government anyway. PSPS Mar 10 #12
    It is NOT a clean CR. yellow dahlia Mar 10 #15
    They don't need any (D) votes in the Senate madville Mar 11 #20
    Um no. BumRushDaShow Mar 11 #22

    Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

    NYC Liberal

    (20,400 posts)
    4. Who cares what they will say?
    Mon Mar 10, 2025, 03:47 PM
    Mar 10

    They literally flat out lie. Even if we did everything “perfectly” they would lie. These are the same people who voted in lockstep against the infrastructure bill and then claimed credit for the funding their districts were getting from it.

    Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #4)

    BumRushDaShow

    (150,876 posts)
    7. The government is already effectively shut down
    Mon Mar 10, 2025, 04:21 PM
    Mar 10

    between the layoffs, putting people on administrative leave, and demanding people "report what they do" every week (although most already do that in agency systems) for the benefit of some illegal jackass.

    Miguelito Loveless

    (4,904 posts)
    6. I don't see how this ends well for us
    Mon Mar 10, 2025, 04:14 PM
    Mar 10

    Opposing the bill is the thing to do, but we will be blamed and accused of crashing the government to protect bureaucrats.

    BumRushDaShow

    (150,876 posts)
    8. "Opposing the bill" is what they would be doing when they vote "no"
    Mon Mar 10, 2025, 04:23 PM
    Mar 10


    The GOP has the majority in both chambers.

    Miguelito Loveless

    (4,904 posts)
    14. I understand.
    Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:10 PM
    Mar 10

    But we will get blamed if the government shuts down. I agree we should, just stating the reality of the situation. The corporate media will also happily blame us.

    BumRushDaShow

    (150,876 posts)
    16. There is no "blame" except to the GOP when the government has already been functionally shut down
    Tue Mar 11, 2025, 03:57 AM
    Mar 11

    every time Muskrat demands more slashing and burning of agencies and freezing/cutting money ALREADY AGREED TO, and MANY of those being impacted ARE Republicans including MAGats. The funding cuts - notably contracts - are hitting GOP companies large and small as well, and "the natives are restless".

    The messaging should be for Democrats to demand that this random and wanton slashing of government be ENDED and a deliberative process happen similar to what happened in the '90s under Clinton (which the GOP discovered and now point to, but they have done the OPPOSITE of what Clinton did).

    Miguelito Loveless

    (4,904 posts)
    17. I am not arguing against this, I agree with you.
    Tue Mar 11, 2025, 10:49 AM
    Mar 11

    I am simply stating that the GOP and the Corporate Media™ will blame Dems. The other problems is the Dem leadership is abysmal at "messaging".

    BumRushDaShow

    (150,876 posts)
    18. They *always blame Democrats*
    Tue Mar 11, 2025, 10:52 AM
    Mar 11

    That is nothing new.

    And until we BUY our OWN media, then this issue will continue into perpetuity. We prefer to spend money on "helping people" but that comes at a cost and sacrifice.

    Miguelito Loveless

    (4,904 posts)
    19. Absolutely true
    Tue Mar 11, 2025, 10:55 AM
    Mar 11

    What hurts these days is that the narrative "sticks", and we lose elections because people vote based on the narrative. So far, our "leaders" refuse to adapt to this reality and play hard ball back. Instead, we have Dems voting to censure Dems, and Hakeem Jeffries calling Dems on the carpet for being impolite to Trump.

    BumRushDaShow

    (150,876 posts)
    21. We just had an election where the gloves were taken off
    Tue Mar 11, 2025, 12:50 PM
    Mar 11

    and the opposition basically doubled and tripled down on buying media outlets to amplify their lies and filth.

    So again, until we get more to take billions to buy media, then we will be at a status quo.

    At least Soros bought Audacy (and its stations), which caused the MAGats to cry foul and shed many MAGat tears, so that indicates that this is the right direction to go, and it needs to expand.

    Maybe someone can seal the non-profit status of the Chicago Sun-Times and make that "our 'national' outlet" since the other big city papers are RW-loon owned/controlled.

    PSPS

    (14,470 posts)
    12. Voting no is the only thing to do. They're effectively shutting down the government anyway.
    Mon Mar 10, 2025, 05:41 PM
    Mar 10

    yellow dahlia

    (2,247 posts)
    15. It is NOT a clean CR.
    Mon Mar 10, 2025, 11:36 PM
    Mar 10

    It is a CR that enables the grifter and muskRAT to mess w/ the funds. It allows them to screw w/ Medicaid.

    Dems need to read Sun Tzu - The Art of War.

    madville

    (7,641 posts)
    20. They don't need any (D) votes in the Senate
    Tue Mar 11, 2025, 11:18 AM
    Mar 11

    A CR only requires a simple majority so the Senate can pass it without any Democratic support.

    BumRushDaShow

    (150,876 posts)
    22. Um no.
    Tue Mar 11, 2025, 12:55 PM
    Mar 11
    The only things that DON'T require cloture are the nominations and the "reconciliation" bills.

    The C.R. is NOT a "reconciliation" bill (that is being drafted separately for the FY25 budget).

    They STILL need 60 votes to proceed to debate and final passage for the C.R.
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