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groundloop

(12,767 posts)
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 11:27 PM Mar 7

Trump claims Putin will be more 'generous' in peace talks than 'difficult' Ukraine

Source: ABC News

President Donald Trump on Friday, after decrying Russia's latest strikes on Ukraine and threatening sanctions until it stopped attacking, also said he thought Vladimir Putin would be "generous" in peace talks and described Ukraine as "difficult."

Answering questions from reporters in the Oval Office, Trump, while repeating that sanctions threat he posted earlier in the day, had positive words about the Russian president.

"He wants to end the war and once ended, and I think he's going to be more generous than he has to be. And that's pretty good," Trump said.

Asked whether he still believed Putin when he told him he wanted peace, Trump replied he did.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-threatens-russia-sanctions-tariffs-ceasefire-peace-deal/story?id=119551657



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Trump claims Putin will be more 'generous' in peace talks than 'difficult' Ukraine (Original Post) groundloop Mar 7 OP
The M$M: "Whatever you say, sir!" Blue Owl Mar 7 #1
I am tired of Trump trying to imitate Putin Sessuch Mar 8 #11
Yeah, Putin wants peace. LudwigPastorius Mar 7 #2
Showing our age here! Lucky Luciano Mar 8 #4
Was that from Springtime for Hitler? mdbl Mar 8 #8
Definitely Max Johnes Mar 8 #18
So what will the Felon be mining for in Russia or will they be giving us their oil? Buddyzbuddy Mar 7 #3
I am tired of Trump trying to imitate Putin Sessuch Mar 8 #12
The Felon is to Putin what Congress is to the Felon. Buddyzbuddy Mar 8 #14
And what exactly has Russia agreed to give up in negotiating peace? All I've seen was sinkingfeeling Mar 8 #5
Aside from a share of conflict minerals pillaged from Ukraine, Putin isn't offering anything Eugene Mar 8 #6
Ukraine are the difficult ones. When they're trying to keep a James Bond supervillain from taking their home? Initech Mar 8 #7
Yep. Dump is a Russian asset sakabatou Mar 8 #9
Of course Comrade Krasnov would say that. Karasu Mar 8 #10
How "Christian" of him... the Republican convicted felon lets his lover kill... Justice matters. Mar 8 #13
You mean Russian Asset Trump DSandra Mar 8 #15
Putin sure uses a "generous" amount of bombs on Ukraine. SunSeeker Mar 8 #16
Yeah! Ukraine wants all of its territory back. Russia will generously give 1/3! Mean ole' Ukrainis. Wonder Why Mar 8 #17
So what is the plan? Max Johnes Mar 8 #19
Fuck Putin's mouthpiece/ Puppet. Cha Mar 8 #20

LudwigPastorius

(12,197 posts)
2. Yeah, Putin wants peace.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 11:31 PM
Mar 7

...a piece of Ukraine, a piece of Estonia, a piece of Latvia, a piece of Moldova,...

Buddyzbuddy

(701 posts)
3. So what will the Felon be mining for in Russia or will they be giving us their oil?
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 11:42 PM
Mar 7

I'm sure you'll be fair with Pootie since they were clearly the underdog suffering from the Ukrainian aggression.

Buddyzbuddy

(701 posts)
14. The Felon is to Putin what Congress is to the Felon.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:10 AM
Mar 8

"Yes sir may I have another" Tired of him is an understatement. Let's just say it qualifies as one of the descriptive words I would use.

sinkingfeeling

(55,052 posts)
5. And what exactly has Russia agreed to give up in negotiating peace? All I've seen was
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 12:28 AM
Mar 8

a list of their demands and what they wouldn't do, like cede territory.

Eugene

(64,424 posts)
6. Aside from a share of conflict minerals pillaged from Ukraine, Putin isn't offering anything
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 12:31 AM
Mar 8

except maybe a mafia-style carve-up of territories.

Initech

(104,500 posts)
7. Ukraine are the difficult ones. When they're trying to keep a James Bond supervillain from taking their home?
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 01:01 AM
Mar 8

Sorry but have you seen any home invasion movie ever made? You don't sit down and watch as people take your house. You kick them in the fucking ass and make them go away.

You'll have to excuse Zelenskyy for being difficult Trump. Fuck you. Go have a pity party on Sean Hannity.

Justice matters.

(8,286 posts)
13. How "Christian" of him... the Republican convicted felon lets his lover kill...
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 02:51 AM
Mar 8

innocents as many as he can slaughter and he offers him to take home what he already stole...

And all the hollier-than-thou "CINO" Republicans don't say anything...

*CINO: Christians In Name Only

DSandra

(1,565 posts)
15. You mean Russian Asset Trump
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 04:11 AM
Mar 8

Trump should not be called normally. That is what he is. It's as clear as day.

Wonder Why

(5,498 posts)
17. Yeah! Ukraine wants all of its territory back. Russia will generously give 1/3! Mean ole' Ukrainis.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 02:39 PM
Mar 8

Max Johnes

(2 posts)
19. So what is the plan?
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 05:43 PM
Mar 8

Who can tell what does Peace from Trump's point of view means?
Let’s talk about values. Because IMHO it's the core issue here.
Because values it's what about war in Ukraine is about. Not about territories but about values. Otherwise, we could have been transformed in another Belorussia and that’s it. No war at all and everybody is happy. But we have two revolutions in 10 consecutive years, and we showed that we do not want to be another Belorussia. Definitely.
Values can be shared or not.
If Trump says that for him is more comfortable to deal with russia than with Ukraine that means that putin's values are close to him.
And this is not about what he says but about what he does. The majority of decisions taken by Trump not only about Ukraine but about US allies and neighbors as well definitely tells me that it's true. "We will certainly obtain Greenland in that way or another". Seriously? The answer could be "yes".
Unfortunately.
Let's get back to "peace". According to Trump, putin (Mordor) wants peace while Zelensky (Ukraine) does not.
It is very important to understand the core goals of both parties.
Mordor: russia definitely does not want Donbass or whatever. It wants to destroy Ukraine as a country or conquer it. Thats it. No other goals. Oh no, Mordor can go further of course because Europe is the next target. Currently it finally became obvious for some European leaders.
Ukraine: wants do define its own destiny by its own. Because values translated by russia are not what we want to live with. Bucha is a good example not to talk much about. But there are plenty of other examples.

Thus, I still do not understand Trump's peace plan at all. Maybe I did not read "Mandate for leadership" and that's why I do not know the proper answer.
But what i see now that Trump is destroying the world order in line with putin.

The one positive thing i see is that not all Americans share Trump's values. Many Americans fight together with representatives of other countries in Ukrainian International Legion and other units. It's another good argument for me. Therefore, i would like to thank all of you for your support as well as for the support provided by previous US administration. We need to continue to fight as "poor peace is better than good war" is definitely not our case.

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