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demmiblue

(38,245 posts)
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 05:36 PM Mar 7

Gene Hackman died of heart disease, his wife died of hantavirus about 1 week prior, authorities say

Source: AP

SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — Authorities revealed Friday that actor Gene Hackman died of heart disease and showed severe signs of Alzheimer’s disease a full week after his wife died of hantavirus in their home.

Authorities initially ruled out foul play after the bodies were discovered Feb 26. Immediate tests for carbon monoxide poisoning were negative.

Chief Medical Investigator Dr. Heather Jarrell said it was possible that Hackman was not aware his wife was deceased in their home.

“Mr. Hackman showed evidence of advanced Alzheimer’s disease,” Jarrell said. “He was in a very poor state of health. He had significant heart disease, and I think ultimately that’s what resulted in his death.”

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/gene-hackman-death-betsy-arakawa-investigation-c94b2cb4d5d7aec9a1a39a81b46dbdf9

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Gene Hackman died of heart disease, his wife died of hantavirus about 1 week prior, authorities say (Original Post) demmiblue Mar 7 OP
Damn Strelnikov_ Mar 7 #1
Also, did not know Hanta virus was still around Strelnikov_ Mar 7 #6
It'll be around nearly forever WestMichRad Mar 7 #27
another word for 'the plague', NotHardly Mar 7 #29
Plague is endemic in the South. West and it is a bacteria that can be treated with antibiotics TexLaProgressive Mar 7 #35
Hantavirus is a virus, while bubonic plague is bacterial. They aren't the same. n/t valleyrogue Mar 7 #63
not hardly Kali Mar 7 #65
And the poor dog in the crate died of starvation? Baitball Blogger Mar 7 #2
Or possibly the carrier of the Hanta. A week is not enough to starve, though water might be a problem. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 7 #15
RuLe of threes maxsolomon Mar 7 #18
Dogs do not transmit hantavirus, nor do they become symptomatic. They can carry in an infected rodent hlthe2b Mar 7 #21
Would have been two weeks Mountainguy Mar 8 #70
Very sad, but... Mike Nelson Mar 7 #3
If the wife was in good health prior to suddenly dying exboyfil Mar 7 #12
It doesn't make sense unless she was functioning ok until sudden death AdamGG Mar 8 #72
Yes. Or what about family members or friends? Silver Gaia Mar 7 #26
Similar to the situation here CountAllVotes Mar 7 #38
I am so sorry you had to bear this alone. Whatever is in your future I hope it contains some caring friends. efhmc Mar 7 #41
I was very isolated CountAllVotes Mar 7 #46
I'm so sorry LittleGirl Mar 7 #48
Thank you CountAllVotes Mar 7 #51
I'm glad she's been showing up LittleGirl Mar 7 #57
Whew, I was fortunate my Mom was a good neighbor IbogaProject Mar 7 #68
I am so sorry! Silver Gaia Mar 7 #60
I am very sorry. ellenrr Mar 8 #79
Such a tragedy, despite his age. greatauntoftriplets Mar 7 #4
Hantavirus is a rodent-born virus and there is no pill that would treat it. hlthe2b Mar 7 #7
Thanks. greatauntoftriplets Mar 7 #9
No, fortunately... hlthe2b Mar 7 #11
I should have guessed because virus is in the name. greatauntoftriplets Mar 7 #13
It isn't so self-explanatory. Ironically University of New Mexico University hospital is quite experienced hlthe2b Mar 7 #17
I've heard of ECMO. greatauntoftriplets Mar 7 #19
Thank you for this information. I had forgotten about this virus. efhmc Mar 7 #43
Hantavirus Pulmonary syndrome does cause pulmonary edema but becomes signficant only just before hlthe2b Mar 7 #5
Yeah, many are speculating that she was only last heard from on the 11th, but died a few days later. LeftInTX Mar 7 #32
My husband lost the ability to breathe, swallow or speak CountAllVotes Mar 7 #39
Your husband died of Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome? I am so sorry to hear. Where were you living? hlthe2b Mar 7 #54
Apparently no one was looking in on them. harumph Mar 7 #8
She wasn't that old. LisaL Mar 7 #22
It seems that Mr. Hackman was unable, by himself, to sustain nutrition and hydration. n/t John1956PA Mar 7 #10
Yes, very sad - and probably took heart meds too. nt TBF Mar 7 #61
How awfully sad. They had money for help. Although she was younger and probably coping Srkdqltr Mar 7 #14
She died from an infectious disease. LisaL Mar 7 #20
Hackman died they think a week before she did. He must have had severe dementia Bengus81 Mar 7 #24
No, he died a week after her. Apparently he was not able to care for himself Liberty Belle Mar 7 #31
I rarely hear from others CountAllVotes Mar 7 #40
Count us in to hear from you. I use to do meals on wheels with my mother in Dallas and part of supplying nutrition efhmc Mar 7 #47
Where I live it is frozen dinners CountAllVotes Mar 7 #49
The info I got was from Texas and the program is still available in Austin, Dallas and SA. efhmc Mar 7 #53
For now. If they get federal funds Musk will probably cut it. n/t totodeinhere Mar 7 #67
we hear you Skittles Mar 8 #71
Your correct...duh,I typed it in just backwards. I just can't imagine he wandering around Bengus81 Mar 8 #73
So very sad. mzmolly Mar 7 #16
Such a sad story. While reading I realized that my MIL and FIL were lucky not to share a similar fate. LauraInLA Mar 7 #23
No one wants to give up their freedom and admit they can not care for themselves. efhmc Mar 7 #50
It's possible that she didn't know she had that particular virus. Rhiagel Mar 7 #25
Wow, thats sad. Figarosmom Mar 7 #28
The rodent infestation doesn't have to be in a home. LisaL Mar 7 #30
Hantavirus is a concern when staying in trail shelters because of that. maxsolomon Mar 7 #34
Or that their home had a rodent infestation CountAllVotes Mar 7 #42
Or an outbuilding. maxsolomon Mar 7 #44
This is so sad. cksmithy Mar 7 #33
Vascular dementia CountAllVotes Mar 7 #45
He probably was very private and didn't want people to know. May have even been very vehement about it when he was still efhmc Mar 7 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Mar 8 #78
That'sn extremely sad thing to learn. cstanleytech Mar 7 #36
Very sad 😔 Luciferous Mar 7 #37
That poor man JustAnotherGen Mar 7 #55
Oh man purr-rat beauty Mar 7 #56
People get old and die Botany Mar 7 #58
Sad for the family - TBF Mar 7 #59
One of the saddest stories out there. valleyrogue Mar 7 #62
Very tragic. nt Xipe Totec Mar 7 #64
Good Lord, that is tragic . . . SarcasticSatyr Mar 7 #66
Given the narrative they have stated thus far I would moniss Mar 7 #69
This is a very sad story. It seems Hackman's wife died a week before he did. He had Alzheimer's, so one can only Martin68 Mar 8 #74
A shame all around, regardless of the details. twodogsbarking Mar 8 #75
And the dog ? republianmushroom Mar 8 #76
Gene was not dehydrated according to the ME Saoirse9 Mar 8 #77
Wife must have known she was seriously ill Mysterian Mar 8 #80

Strelnikov_

(7,968 posts)
6. Also, did not know Hanta virus was still around
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 05:48 PM
Mar 7

When I lived in Santa Fe in the early 90’s, there was a number of cases on the Navajo Res. In NW NM.

TexLaProgressive

(12,450 posts)
35. Plague is endemic in the South. West and it is a bacteria that can be treated with antibiotics
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 07:36 PM
Mar 7

It is carried by rodents and their fleas. Hantavirus is generally passed from dried rodent urine that forms a dust that can be inhaled.

Baitball Blogger

(49,825 posts)
2. And the poor dog in the crate died of starvation?
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 05:45 PM
Mar 7

What a tragic ending for a family that deserved so much better.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,781 posts)
15. Or possibly the carrier of the Hanta. A week is not enough to starve, though water might be a problem. . . . nt
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 06:00 PM
Mar 7

hlthe2b

(109,206 posts)
21. Dogs do not transmit hantavirus, nor do they become symptomatic. They can carry in an infected rodent
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 06:14 PM
Mar 7

that could transmit via urine/feces. But, the poor dog likely died of dehydration in the kennel.

Mountainguy

(1,720 posts)
70. Would have been two weeks
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 12:39 AM
Mar 8

Because the wife was dead for atleast a week while he was oblivious to it in his mental state. Then he died and they were both dead in the house for another week. The dog was likely in the crate the entire time. Two weeks without food or water. Not survivable.

Mike Nelson

(10,540 posts)
3. Very sad, but...
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 05:45 PM
Mar 7

... I assume those health conditions and his wealth would mean they had some human helpers around. I would like to know when the last housekeeper, nurse, or relative checked up on them.

exboyfil

(18,203 posts)
12. If the wife was in good health prior to suddenly dying
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 05:53 PM
Mar 7

Then I could understand the delay. She was quite a bit younger than Mr. Hackman so she could have been the primary caregiver. Depending on how his Alzheimer's manifested, she might have felt she could go it alone in his care. I have to imagine he wanted privacy and perhaps she was respecting those wishes.

Still to drop the grid for two weeks is something.

AdamGG

(1,673 posts)
72. It doesn't make sense unless she was functioning ok until sudden death
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 01:57 AM
Mar 8

If Mrs. Hackman's condition had worsened to where she needed help for herself and for Gene Hackman's care, other caregivers would have been contacted. Both my parents had Alzheimer's and it's pretty end stage that he wasn't able to place some kind of call for help after seeing that his wife had died. It could be that if Mrs. Hackman only used a cell phone and they didn't have a land line that that contributed to it. Cell phones are harder to use for people with dementia, while just dialing zero on a land line is very basic.

Silver Gaia

(5,050 posts)
26. Yes. Or what about family members or friends?
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 06:44 PM
Mar 7

It seems to me that SOMEONE should have been checking on them every few days. That is the tragedy.

What makes me feel the worst is that poor caged dog who must have died from dehydration. What a horrible way to die, poor baby. Had someone checked on them in a reasonable manner, the dog might have lived even if they did not.

CountAllVotes

(21,684 posts)
38. Similar to the situation here
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 07:51 PM
Mar 7

I was caring for my late husband that had severe dementia.

No one called.

No one gave a fuck.

During the time he had the dementia, there were three infestations caused by him.

I didn't know it until he was gone that he was the reason for the infestations of:

1. moths
2. carpet beetles
3. silverfish

I am the one that dealt with the three infestations. They were due to filth on his part.

I remember towards the end, those beetles were hatching out on the rugs and he was screaming at me, "MAKE IT STOP!!".

I was trying to make it stop and in the end, after shampooing the rugs about 5X I managed to get rid of those.

The silverfish nest was next to where he sat day and night. I didn't notice it as it was hidden.

The moths were due to a huge house-wide infestation from wool carpets that he had improperly stored in the garage. We lost thousands of $$ worth of belongs in the moth outbreak.

It was a hell and I had no one to help me because no one cared.

It was a horrible time in our lives.

I hope he is resting in peace as I sure am not.

In fact, I am now exploring the option I have to leave the USA for good.

Dementia is a hell. A hell I never knew about.



efhmc

(15,406 posts)
41. I am so sorry you had to bear this alone. Whatever is in your future I hope it contains some caring friends.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 07:57 PM
Mar 7

CountAllVotes

(21,684 posts)
46. I was very isolated
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 08:05 PM
Mar 7

Given his condition, no one would call or come around much as he didn't want anyone to come around.

I have made new friends since he died, all women.

Its been a very tough road to be walking on but I am still here.

Thank you for your kind wishes.

LittleGirl

(8,658 posts)
48. I'm so sorry
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 08:10 PM
Mar 7

My heart breaks for you. Honestly, my spouse is so private, I expect our end to be like you described. I'm so terribly sorry that everyone abandoned you. I know how that feels and worry that it will be like that for us.

my sincere condolences to you. sending cyber hugs today and always.

CountAllVotes

(21,684 posts)
51. Thank you
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 08:14 PM
Mar 7

I doubt I am alone. There are many more like me/us. You just never hear about it because many are so isolated.

I am getting out more these days.

I had dinner with a friend last week and we have plans to do that again very soon.

I have another friend that actually came to my house and was banging on the door when my phone was accidentally disconnected by AT&T!

She was very worried as the message was that the phone was disconnected. Period.

She has become a pretty good friend these days too. We try to HELP one another as she too is on her own living in a broke down van with her dog. How sad is this anyway?

LittleGirl

(8,658 posts)
57. I'm glad she's been showing up
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 09:43 PM
Mar 7

Her circumstances aren’t much better but sounds like she’s an empath. Keep her. Hold on. Do the same for her.

IbogaProject

(4,271 posts)
68. Whew, I was fortunate my Mom was a good neighbor
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 11:37 PM
Mar 7

So when she became feeble they kept an eye on her until I was able to coordinate care. So sorry for what you went through.

ellenrr

(3,865 posts)
79. I am very sorry.
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 05:51 PM
Mar 8

My father cared for his 2nd wife until she died of alzheimers.
He refused to put her in a home.
and throughout- about 10 years - he was in his 80"s....

Dementia IS hell, I'm sorry for what you endured....

greatauntoftriplets

(177,504 posts)
4. Such a tragedy, despite his age.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 05:48 PM
Mar 7

I wonder if the pills were to treat Arakawa's hantavirus. I find it sad that they lived without some kind of caregiver.

At least the mystery is revealed and it indeed was natural causes.

hlthe2b

(109,206 posts)
7. Hantavirus is a rodent-born virus and there is no pill that would treat it.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 05:49 PM
Mar 7

If she had sought treatment with even mild respiratory symptoms, she would have been immediately hospitalized as it kills from fulminent pulmonary edema (essentially drowning in their own lung fluid). Caught earlier, it can be survivable but requires intensive intervention.

greatauntoftriplets

(177,504 posts)
9. Thanks.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 05:51 PM
Mar 7

Immediately after I posted, I wondered if there was treatment for it or not because I didn't know. It's not a big thing in Chicago.

hlthe2b

(109,206 posts)
17. It isn't so self-explanatory. Ironically University of New Mexico University hospital is quite experienced
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 06:02 PM
Mar 7

in treating severe hantavirus pulmonary syndrome (HPS)--among the first to use ECMO (a highly technological process where blood flow is redirected away from heart and lungs (to let the latter heal) through the femoral arteries and veins into a filtering membrane). That use was early on when HPS was first recognized, but it ended up becoming a treatment of last resort for COVID-19 a few years ago and other heart and lung conditions today. I did a lot of early work on HPS, so sometimes my "trivia meter" gets stuck. LOL

greatauntoftriplets

(177,504 posts)
19. I've heard of ECMO.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 06:11 PM
Mar 7

Been watching Grey's Anatomy, and they mention it there, though not for hantavirus.

Good to know that scientists are working on ways to treat hantavirus.

hlthe2b

(109,206 posts)
5. Hantavirus Pulmonary syndrome does cause pulmonary edema but becomes signficant only just before
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 05:48 PM
Mar 7

death in most people--so she might have been compensating for a day or two before it became quickly deadly. It appears that they have not yet tested the dog found dead near her, but while dogs can technically become infected, they remain asymptomatic and CAN NOT transmit directly to humans (albeit they can bring infected mice into the home--which can become a source through urine and feces).

It seems likely that Gene Hackman's Alzheimer's was so advanced that he may not have even known his wife was dead for the estimated 7 days prior to his own death that right now appears to be largely a consequence of heart disease/MI. If he was not able to drink fluids that would have contributed.


Sad and at least partially preventable sigh...

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
32. Yeah, many are speculating that she was only last heard from on the 11th, but died a few days later.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 07:19 PM
Mar 7

She ran three errands on the 11th, got home around 5:15 and had some online activity later.

CountAllVotes

(21,684 posts)
39. My husband lost the ability to breathe, swallow or speak
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 07:54 PM
Mar 7

That was about two weeks before he died.



hlthe2b

(109,206 posts)
54. Your husband died of Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome? I am so sorry to hear. Where were you living?
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 08:39 PM
Mar 7

harumph

(2,659 posts)
8. Apparently no one was looking in on them.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 05:51 PM
Mar 7

I suppose there's a lesson for older people living alone. I mean he is listed as having 3 children by his previous marriage.
Such a needless tragedy.

Srkdqltr

(8,267 posts)
14. How awfully sad. They had money for help. Although she was younger and probably coping
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 05:55 PM
Mar 7

Until she couldn't. Sad sad

Bengus81

(8,699 posts)
24. Hackman died they think a week before she did. He must have had severe dementia
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 06:43 PM
Mar 7

It's horrible...........

Liberty Belle

(9,659 posts)
31. No, he died a week after her. Apparently he was not able to care for himself
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 07:13 PM
Mar 7

nor know enough to call for help.

She probably never knew she had Hantavirus; after she died he had no one to care for him.

Very sad, and a good lesson for everyone to be sure elderly parents have someone to check up on them daily.

CountAllVotes

(21,684 posts)
40. I rarely hear from others
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 07:56 PM
Mar 7

I'm on my own, elderly and disabled.

It is a very sad life at times, believe me.



efhmc

(15,406 posts)
47. Count us in to hear from you. I use to do meals on wheels with my mother in Dallas and part of supplying nutrition
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 08:07 PM
Mar 7

was also checking in/up on people. They all wanted to visit but sadly we had to get those meals delivered. Wonder if that program is still available.

CountAllVotes

(21,684 posts)
49. Where I live it is frozen dinners
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 08:10 PM
Mar 7

You have to show up in your car and get in line to get five of them.

I did it one time.

They were god awful, I kid you not!

I go to the Grocery Outlet and get what I can with the $23 in food stamps they gave me after he died.

I have very low blood sugar now and I'm supposed to be eating several small meals a day. What a sad joke that is!



Bengus81

(8,699 posts)
73. Your correct...duh,I typed it in just backwards. I just can't imagine he wandering around
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 09:14 AM
Mar 8

there for a week and not really realizing she was dead or knowing what to do.

LauraInLA

(1,799 posts)
23. Such a sad story. While reading I realized that my MIL and FIL were lucky not to share a similar fate.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 06:28 PM
Mar 7

They lived in a cottage in rural Ontario. She had severe dementia, and he was trying valiantly to care for her alone (difficult to get any help). He developed throat cancer which eventually led them to move to Ottawa for treatment — a care home for MIL while FIL underwent radiation, etc. it was a shock to everyone when he passed away there; he’d been in denial about his prognosis for some time. I can’t imagine what would have happened if he’d been stubborn and tried to stay in the cottage with her while undergoing treatment.

Rhiagel

(1,788 posts)
25. It's possible that she didn't know she had that particular virus.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 06:43 PM
Mar 7

They said the pills found were for her thyroid condition. The kids should have been checking on him at least through phone calls. If the records show they called with no answer, then you have to wonder why none of them came to the house to find out why. So sad for such unfortunate circumstances.

Figarosmom

(5,257 posts)
28. Wow, thats sad.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 06:54 PM
Mar 7

She likely thought she had the flu or something since the symptoms are flu like. I wonder how she got something that is gotten by rodent infestation ( although New Mex is one of the states where it occurs). Hard to believe they didn't have some kind of help especially with his Alzheimer’s. Or that their home had a rodent infestation. That's really sad.

maxsolomon

(36,347 posts)
34. Hantavirus is a concern when staying in trail shelters because of that.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 07:30 PM
Mar 7

I did a solo backpack on Lake Chelan where I got dropped off by the ferry. I didn't realize my tent had fallen off on the boat and had to stay in a trail shelter.

The guidebook I'd read even mentioned Hantavirus and that shelter. Although I didn't see droppings, I thought about it all night.

Next night I just rolled myself up in a tarp.

maxsolomon

(36,347 posts)
44. Or an outbuilding.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 08:01 PM
Mar 7

My sister has a giant woodpile inside an old garage/shed. I don't like going in there.

cksmithy

(316 posts)
33. This is so sad.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 07:30 PM
Mar 7

Father in-law died from lewey body dementia, he had to have 24 hour care. You can get hantavirus while camping and just being outdoors. Yosemite has had hantavirus in their tent cabins in 2012 and 2024. I think it's fatality rate is 5 to 15%.

CountAllVotes

(21,684 posts)
45. Vascular dementia
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 08:02 PM
Mar 7

That's what I was dealing with.

I had never heard of it until I read those words on his death certificate!

Where the hell was everyone?

All of those nieces and nephews?

No where to be seen or heard from that is for certain.

It was just me, the three cats, himself and his severe dementia and my own disability!

SHAME!

I'll never stop being pissed! Who the hell wouldn't be pissed off forever being left with some one in such a horrific condition with a only a disabled wife to care for him?





efhmc

(15,406 posts)
52. He probably was very private and didn't want people to know. May have even been very vehement about it when he was still
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 08:16 PM
Mar 7

able.

Response to efhmc (Reply #52)

JustAnotherGen

(34,689 posts)
55. That poor man
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 08:42 PM
Mar 7
He probably had no idea what to do. No awareness.

Sorry - my mom died suddenly - and alone in June last year. I hope he wasn't scared.

Botany

(73,863 posts)
58. People get old and die
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 10:06 PM
Mar 7

End of story. They died in each other’s graces. I hope there was little suffering.

Btw science works too. Smart people were able to I.D. what happened. I

TBF

(35,079 posts)
59. Sad for the family -
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 10:13 PM
Mar 7

I suppose it is good to have closure, and know that it was natural causes, but still a sad story.

valleyrogue

(2,005 posts)
62. One of the saddest stories out there.
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 10:20 PM
Mar 7

It sounds as if Gene never knew his wife and one of his dogs had died.

SarcasticSatyr

(1,329 posts)
66. Good Lord, that is tragic . . .
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 10:52 PM
Mar 7

So, his wife suddenly died, and he probably didn't take any of his meds for heart disease for a week and that led to his death?

moniss

(7,068 posts)
69. Given the narrative they have stated thus far I would
Fri Mar 7, 2025, 11:59 PM
Mar 7

imagine she was caring for him and making sure he got his meds and when she got sick and died he didn't really know nor did he probably have awareness of missing taking his prescriptions. But it is sad that nobody was making the occasional phone call to check on them.

Martin68

(25,480 posts)
74. This is a very sad story. It seems Hackman's wife died a week before he did. He had Alzheimer's, so one can only
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 12:51 PM
Mar 8

speculate what happened between his wife's death and his own. It all feels rather intrusive, but I guess the facts must come out.

Saoirse9

(3,855 posts)
77. Gene was not dehydrated according to the ME
Sat Mar 8, 2025, 03:14 PM
Mar 8

He must have at least been drinking something. Maybe he was well enough to drink but not feed himself.

She was youngish and everyone thought she was able to care for him. I'm sure even she thought she could care for him without help.

I feel sorriest for the dog who probably starved to death.

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