Democrats suspect Netanyahu attempting to tilt Trump-Harris race
Source: thehill
Democrats increasingly suspect Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is trying to interfere in U.S. domestic politics by ignoring President Bidens calls to negotiate a peace deal in Gaza and by confronting Hezbollah and Iran weeks before the U.S. election.
The rapidly escalating confrontation between Israel, Hezbollah and Hezbollahs ally, Iran, has undercut Bidens efforts to achieve peace through diplomacy.
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4914933-netanyahu-gaza-hezbollah-interference/
bluestarone
(17,914 posts)He's a cultist right beside TFG!!
Just wait until the IDF takes out the Iranian oil producing facilities and gas jumps another .50 a gallon. Biden asked BiBi not to do it. I like Joe but hes got to get tougher with BiBi, but of course that risks inciting the $$rath$$ of AIPAC.
jimfields33
(18,255 posts)land from Iran. Yes they definitely wanted october 7th. Thats ridiculous. Israel doesnt my attack unless someone attacks them.
vapor2
(1,438 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,907 posts)walkingman
(8,151 posts)Without a steady leader in the US the world could easily become just another autocratic government which would be a terrible for Democracies around the world.
We cannot elect a person to be the most powerful leader on the planet that we would not even want to expose our children to.
Netanyahu is just a more articulate Trump.
Owens
(292 posts)JFC Democrats, get it together
hlthe2b
(105,423 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 4, 2024, 10:07 PM - Edit history (1)
slightlv
(3,841 posts)in the media with every interview and story about bibi. Not only does he want his good friend, trump, back in office... he wants the cover trump can give him while he starts WWIII, which the religious right sees as their dream of the Apocalypse finally happening.
bibi is no friend of the US, and I doubt a whole lot of people see him as a friend of Israel. He's done way too much over the years that can be called into account. And is just one more autocrat that the world has to play whack-a-mole against.
electric_blue68
(17,046 posts)slightlv
(3,841 posts)Sorry I didn't stipulate better. Marbles sometimes bounce around in my head on their own accord. I only catch up afterwards!
electric_blue68
(17,046 posts)So it's an irritating (and potentially dangerous under "perfect storm" conditions) issue for me.
whathehell
(29,577 posts)Israeli Jews that Bibi's been leaning on to attain (and retain) his position?
Read on -- Fundamentalist Christians are the not the only, or even the most important "religious radicals" in this scenario.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-who-mainstreamed-israels-radicals-now-the-last-obstacle-to-their-agenda/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17281047177185&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.timesofisrael.com%2Fnetanyahu-who-mainstreamed-israels-radicals-now-the-last-obstacle-to-their-agenda%2F
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/04/israel-gaza-war-netanyahu-orthodox-yeshiva-military.html
electric_blue68
(17,046 posts)Apocalyptic scenario!
Will read. 👍
whathehell
(29,577 posts)They're in it for their own reasons.
joanbarnes
(1,849 posts)bahboo
(16,793 posts)just like the orange asshole....
former9thward
(33,207 posts)His trial has been and is proceeding. It has not stopped because of the war. U.S. courts are slow but Israeli courts are very slow. Not only that but the charges against Netanyahu would not typically result in a jail sentence.
RainCaster
(11,365 posts)Just sayin. She will have many options.
wolfie001
(3,202 posts)Intractable
(274 posts)This is news? Nothing new about it.
Autumn
(45,847 posts)Netanyahu wants' trump in the White House.
PSPS
(14,056 posts)Linda ladeewolf
(255 posts)When he suddenly escalated the war with these attacks is that he wants trump. Hes a fool if he thinks trump will help him. Trump will use him, just like he uses the evilgelicals, and abandon him when hes through with him and them.
Bernardo de La Paz
(50,391 posts)FormerOstrich
(2,728 posts)in that I thin Iran wants him, too. Right along with North Korea.
I don't buy the alleged roving assassins and think they are intended as cover for their true attempts to interfere in the results.
None of them give diddly about the people of their country. It's all about the power and wealth and control.
Never thought I'd see these days.....
slightlv
(3,841 posts)but your message brought up something I've wondered about for a while. Iran is Shia. They have their own apocalyptic theory with the "missing mahdi"... I wonder how many of them want to bring on the apocalypse, just like our theocratic right wingers want to do the same thing. They are all cut from the same die; they're all "people of the Book;" and they all have this desperate need to bring on the end of the world. Heaven on earth awaits, don't ya know? /snark
onecaliberal
(35,241 posts)Bev54
(11,618 posts)The problem is the hubris of both of them may well bite them in the ass.
SWBTATTReg
(23,741 posts)losing last cycle of elections) but somehow managed to hang in there. IMHO of course.
TygrBright
(20,954 posts)Autumn
(45,847 posts)OrangeJoe
(381 posts)Joinfortmill
(15,937 posts)sinkingfeeling
(52,736 posts)Lulu KC
(3,115 posts)broccoli is good for you.
no_hypocrisy
(48,231 posts)what does Netanyahu plan to do after Kamala Harris/Tim Walz win and are sworn in?
NoMoreRepugs
(10,318 posts)The Roux Comes First
(1,443 posts)ancianita
(37,876 posts)U.S. intelligence officials have described the efforts as part of broader efforts by authoritarian nations to use the internet to erode support for democracy...
... In advance of the 2024 election, American intelligence assessments found that Iran had covertly supported college protests against the war in Gaza using social media posing as students and having operatives offer financial assistance. Pro-Israel groups have also spent large sums of money to support pro-Israel candidates against candidates critical of the Israeli government. Jordanian-American journalist Rami George Khouri wrote that "Such aggressive funding campaigns by AIPAC and other pro-Israeli forces may soon be perceived as another dimension of foreign interference in US elections, which has grown as a national concern since 2016."...
September 4, the Department of Justice indicted members of Tenet Media for having received $9.7 million as part of a covert Russian influence operation to co-opt American right-wing influencers to espouse pro-Russian content and conspiracy theories....
We have three letter agency evidence of state-sponsored attacks on democracy through this election.
Not just 'suspicion.' The Hill is good for 'suspicion' headlines that distract Democrats from the Nov 5 prize.
Biden's got this; he knows what Netanyahu's doing.
BrianTheEVGuy
(563 posts)AIPAC is an American PAC funded and operated by US citizens. The claim that it is foreign is a longtime antisemitic trope, which is why its not surprising that someone like Rami Khouri would use it.
ancianita
(37,876 posts)Criticisms of AIPAC as a tool of Likud members in Israel are making the rounds.
AIPAC itself insists that its history and leaders speak for it.
More on AIPAC, and an excerpt (editing out source numbers for readability) that shows a few Democratic leaders' historical connections to it...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC
Rise (1970s to 1980s)
By the 1970s, the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations and AIPAC had assumed overall responsibility for Israel-related lobbying within the Jewish communal landscape.
The Conference of Presidents was responsible for speaking to the Executive Branch of the U.S. government, while AIPAC dealt mainly with the Legislative Branch.
Although it had worked effectively behind the scenes since its founding in 1953, AIPAC only became a powerful organization in the 15 years after the Yom Kippur War in 1973.
By the mid-70s, AIPAC had achieved the financial and political clout necessary to sway congressional opinion, according to historian Michael Oren. During this period, AIPAC's budget soared from $300,000 in 1973 to over $7 million during its peak years of influence in the late 1980s.
Whereas Kenen had come out of the Zionist movement, with early staff pulled from the longtime activists among the Jewish community, AIPAC had evolved into a prototypical Washington-based lobbying and consulting firm. Leaders and staffers were recruited from legislative staff and lobbyists with direct experience with the federal bureaucracy.Confronted with opposition from both houses of Congress, United States President Gerald Ford rescinded his 'reassessment.'"
George Lenczowski notes a similar, mid-1970s timeframe for the rise of AIPAC power: "It [the Jimmy Carter presidency] also coincides with the militant emergence of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) as a major force in shaping American policy toward the Middle East."..
...AIPAC scored two major victories in the early 1980s that established its image among political candidates as an organization "not to be trifled with" and set the pace for "a staunchly pro-Israel" Congress over the next three decades.
In 1982, activists affiliated with AIPAC in Skokie, Illinois, backed Richard J. Durbin to oust U.S. Representative Paul Findley (R-Illinois), who had shown enthusiasm for PLO leader Yasir Arafat.
In 1984, Senator Charles H. Percy (R-Illinois), then-chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and a supporter of a deal to allow Saudi Arabia to buy sophisticated airborne early warning and control (AWAC) military planes was defeated by Democrat Paul Simon.
Simon was asked by Robert Asher, an AIPAC board member in Chicago, to run against Percy...
----- fast forward --
In February 2019, freshman U.S. Representative Ilhan Omar (D-Minnesota), one of the first two Muslim women (along with Rashida Tlaib) to serve in Congress, tweeted that House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy's (R-California) support for Israel was all about the Benjamins (i.e. about the money). The next day, she clarified that she meant AIPAC.
Omar later apologized but also made another statement attacking "political influence in this country that says it is okay to push for allegiance to a foreign country. The statements aroused anger among AIPAC supporters, but also vocal support among the progressive wing of the Democratic Party and "revived a fraught debate" in American politics over whether AIPAC has too much influence over American policy in the Middle East, while highlighting the deterioration of some relationships between progressive Democrats and pro-Israel organizations.
On March 6, 2019, the Democratic leadership put forth a resolution on the House floor condemning anti-Semitism, which was broadened to condemn bigotry against a wide variety of groups before it passed on March 7....
Good morning.
kevink077
(381 posts)Both can rot in hell
33taw
(2,668 posts)Congress is terrified of getting on AIPACs crosshairs. Nobody wants to get primaried by an opponent with millions of AIPAC dollars in the campaign coffer.
kimbutgar
(22,687 posts)Bibi is an a hole like the orange menace. Birds of a feather flock together.
I am not anti Jewish just anti BiBi N.
mahina
(18,719 posts)What will it take for a decent Israeli citizens to get rid of this monster?
electric_blue68
(17,046 posts)...on DU?
Massive numbers!
mahina
(18,719 posts)electric_blue68
(17,046 posts)edhopper
(34,457 posts)Do they also suspect that a bear shits in the woods?
orangecrush
(21,115 posts)It's rather obvious.
Orrex
(63,788 posts)I mean, that's been the arc for the last year or so.
H2O Man
(74,943 posts)A lot of us have known that for some time.
MadMike47
(113 posts)One month from now and one day after the election. That's the day that Joe Biden tells Netanyahu to go shit in his hat. Joe has nothing left to lose.
Figarosmom
(1,195 posts)He's met with trump several times to plan all this out.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,342 posts)Accuse him of it in public, and condemn him in the following minute for putting his own people at unnecessary risk. As well as many others. Tell Israel they must have new elections and that the US will only deal with a leader who is open to a negotiated peace settlement immediately.
The GOP will not be able to help themselves and overreact in criticism. Then if Bibi does escalate, the GOP will have little leg to stand on, as it is their man in charge, and Dems wanted a change.
C0RI0LANUS
(910 posts)Besides enfeebling the otherwise competent Biden Administration, Netanyahu is denying Pres. Biden one last diplomatic victory before he leaves the White House: A ceasefire and a release of the hostages. Crime Minister Netanyahu wants Trump to win and he also doesn't care if he tarnishes Joe Biden's legacy. And war keeps delaying Bibi's nettlesome bribery and corruption trial in Jerusalem.
Please see my post on 13 Sep: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219458390
Meet the Republikud Party.
BrianTheEVGuy
(563 posts)We, as a country, have a bad habit of centering everything on us and our politics rather than viewing ourselves as just one actor on the world stage. This article is a great example of that ideation.
tornado34jh
(1,238 posts)We need to stop supporting Netanyahu because I think he is a backstabber. He has been like this since the Obama administration. It's been obvious that he wants Trump in office. I'm not sure why they are only now figuring that out. The Likud party's ideology specifically calls for territorial maximalism through military force.
lark
(23,823 posts)Bibi is part of the wannabe oligarch grifter club, as is tcf. Hurting others for their own profit is both of their motos.
The Wizard
(12,771 posts)Remember when he named a piece of land as Trump Heights?
no_hypocrisy
(48,231 posts)valleyrogue
(765 posts)Trump is toast. Other countries better accept it.