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Mosby

(17,109 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:23 PM Monday

Pete Rose Dead At 83

Source: TMZ

MLB legend Pete Rose has died at the age of 83, TMZ Sports has learned.

Rose, Major League Baseball's hit king, passed away earlier today at his home in Las Vegas.

Pete's agent, Ryan Fiterman of Fiterman Sports, confirmed the news, saying, "the family is asking for privacy at this time."

Pete was one of the greatest baseball players to ever grace a diamond, earning 17 All-Star Game nods, winning three World Series and the 1973 N.L. MVP.

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Pete Rose Dead At 83 (Original Post) Mosby Monday OP
Damn, and Trump was going to pardon him . . . . . no_hypocrisy Monday #1
Why must trump be on every reply on every OP? jimfields33 Monday #2
you are the arbiter of posts? NoRethugFriends Monday #4
You missed my pretty please. Reread. jimfields33 Monday #17
I did not miss anything NoRethugFriends Monday #22
jimfields33 got 12 Rec's for that post Polybius Monday #32
Have thought about suggesting that DU schedule a 24 hour Trump day of silence PufPuf23 Monday #12
I doubt it could last two hours. jimfields33 Monday #18
That is why said scheduled but agreed with you. nt PufPuf23 Monday #19
Maybe because Rose was a Trump supporter SocialDemocrat61 Monday #26
One less vote. n/t aggiesal Monday #30
I'm not surprised Rose is a Trump fan since Prof. Toru Tanaka Monday #38
Because Trump supported Rose in the face of his baseball gambling Bengus81 Tuesday #54
It's OK, his buddy Mr. McMahon already inducted Rose in the WWE Hall of Fame Montauk6 Monday #27
Other teams feared him and rightfully so. He was one of the best. twodogsbarking Monday #3
he was a jerk who ruined a catcher's career in an All-Star game NoRethugFriends Monday #6
He and his wife were both jerks to many people JoseBalow Monday #16
Peter Edward Rose underpants Monday #9
Damn. A huge part of my early life. underpants Monday #5
Great baseball player ... SarcasticSatyr Monday #7
I was thinking the same thing TexasBushwhacker Tuesday #61
He'll probably get inducted into Cooperstown now Zorro Monday #8
Hopefully not before Shoeless Joe Jackson. DJ Synikus Makisimus Monday #11
I hope never. valleyrogue Monday #31
Nope. Never. AltairIV Monday #24
Actor Paul Giamatti was the son of MLB Commissioner Bart Giamatti ... aggiesal Monday #34
See ya, Pete. You were really good, but why did you stain your rep? OAITW r.2.0 Monday #10
Probably because he had a gambling addiction. maxsolomon Monday #20
Exactly. OAITW r.2.0 Monday #21
Should pay for betting on baseball. I would not care about his betting on anything else. NoRethugFriends Monday #23
He did pay. maxsolomon Tuesday #58
Pete Clouds Passing Monday #13
Got a late timms139 Monday #14
That was unexpected BumRushDaShow Monday #15
Thanks for the memories My Friend BOSSHOG Monday #28
"Hopefully another such picture forthcoming." BumRushDaShow Tuesday #46
Do you remember the 64 Season? BOSSHOG Tuesday #49
No but I can imagine BumRushDaShow Tuesday #50
May Pete Rose Rest in Peace and May his Memory be a Blessing. n/t iluvtennis Monday #25
Memory of him is the farthest thing from a blessing. NoRethugFriends Tuesday #51
Saw him in Vegas once.. raising2moredems Monday #29
Great player but corrupt to the bone. ZonkerHarris Monday #33
On the bright side (for him), his lifetime ban is over. LudwigPastorius Monday #35
had to end sometime ZonkerHarris Monday #40
I have nothing nice to say. Lunabell Monday #36
Had he not been coaching/managing in MLB. . . DinahMoeHum Monday #37
He never should have been a manager. maxsolomon Tuesday #59
R.I.P., but... Tarc Monday #39
Pilloried for gambling yet last year MLB announced that Fan Duel was their Sports Betting Partner MichMan Monday #41
There's quite a difference between fans betting on games and participants betting on games. LudwigPastorius Monday #42
I'm guessing you missed this current fiasco BumRushDaShow Tuesday #47
Rose was undoubtedly a great baseball player, but he deserved the lifetime ban. Music Man Tuesday #43
So many of the same ones moniss Tuesday #44
I didn't know he was that old. I would have guessed he was born in 1950. LeftInTX Tuesday #45
They probably would have lifted his lifetime ban... ECL213 Tuesday #48
Johnny Bench was saying today that Rose had been offered a chance maxsolomon Tuesday #62
Took grandkids trick or treating last Oct vapor2 Tuesday #52
Bah! Pete Rose tried to ruin America's Pastime. JohnnyRingo Tuesday #53
Rose's record as one of baseball's all-time greats cannot be disputed Zambero Tuesday #55
Now that MLB is partnered with FanDuel, Mawspam2 Tuesday #56
The NFL radically changed player rules about gambling Mosby Tuesday #57
Lifelong Red Sox fan. I will never forgive Pete Rose or Bob Gibson KPN Tuesday #60
Well, you got your WS wins in the Aughts, and then some. maxsolomon Tuesday #63

PufPuf23

(9,230 posts)
12. Have thought about suggesting that DU schedule a 24 hour Trump day of silence
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:37 PM
Monday

just to see if possible and for Democratic/DU team building.

aggiesal

(9,351 posts)
30. One less vote. n/t
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 09:30 PM
Monday

When I was in Little League, I used a Louisville Slugger Hillerich & Bradsby, size 30 Pete Rose Little League bat.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,216 posts)
38. I'm not surprised Rose is a Trump fan since
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 10:09 PM
Monday

they’re both liars. Rose lied about his gambling for years until he had a book (My Prison Without Bars) which came out in 2004.

Bengus81

(7,312 posts)
54. Because Trump supported Rose in the face of his baseball gambling
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 10:37 AM
Tuesday

Meaning once again,Trump supports this kind of activity because it's a part of his damn life.

JoseBalow

(4,598 posts)
16. He and his wife were both jerks to many people
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:51 PM
Monday

I knew them and interacted with them, and they both sucked at being decent humans.

underpants

(185,648 posts)
9. Peter Edward Rose
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:34 PM
Monday

I heard Sparky say his whole name once and you could feel his appreciation for him.

Growing up when I did - see post below- we didn’t emulate flash, we had to be honest with ourselves about effort. The man in the mirror don’t lie.

underpants

(185,648 posts)
5. Damn. A huge part of my early life.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:30 PM
Monday

Not just because we lived near and went to a lot of Reds games.

Hustle. No matter what you are playing you have to give it all every play.

I had all of the Big Red Machines signatures many times over. Bench was hard to get. I don’t know if we knew someone or just knew to go to a certain level of the parking lot next to Riverfront. We weren’t the only family there. I probably went to 10 games before I was 7. I had them all. Thus was before signatures had value. We moved a lot so eventually I cast them off. You can’t move everything you’ve ever had.

RIP Pete. Thanks.

valleyrogue

(765 posts)
31. I hope never.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 09:35 PM
Monday

I don't get it with the apologists for this man who disgraced himself. They remind me of the Lance Armstrong defenders who even now still make excuses for his flagrant cheating in pro cycling.

aggiesal

(9,351 posts)
34. Actor Paul Giamatti was the son of MLB Commissioner Bart Giamatti ...
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 09:40 PM
Monday

If you ask Paul Giamatti about Pete Rose, we would tell you that Pete Rose was the cause of his father's death.
I'm sure he would fight to keep Pete Rose out of the Baseball Hall Of Fame.

OAITW r.2.0

(27,506 posts)
10. See ya, Pete. You were really good, but why did you stain your rep?
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:36 PM
Monday

Of course, today. you probably would get a pass.....

maxsolomon

(34,691 posts)
20. Probably because he had a gambling addiction.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 08:30 PM
Monday

He sure paid for it - more than almost anyone else in MLB.

Certainly, more than Shohei Ohtani has, oh sorry, that was his interpreter.

maxsolomon

(34,691 posts)
58. He did pay.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 12:02 PM
Tuesday

He'll never be in the HOF.

Listening to Johnny Bench talk about Rose on Dan Patrick this morning was tragic.

BumRushDaShow

(138,981 posts)
15. That was unexpected
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 07:44 PM
Monday

and as many teams as he was on, he WAS a Philly at one time and on our 1980 World Series team.



BOSSHOG

(39,132 posts)
28. Thanks for the memories My Friend
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 09:15 PM
Monday

Look at them hairdos. And a leisure Suit. Michael Jack Schmidt turned 75 last Friday (27 September.)

Hopefully another such picture forthcoming.

BumRushDaShow

(138,981 posts)
46. "Hopefully another such picture forthcoming."
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 05:50 AM
Tuesday

I hope so too. I remember the Brad Lidge final play 16 years ago, which came 28 years after the 1980 miracle win for this city!



raising2moredems

(700 posts)
29. Saw him in Vegas once..
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 09:30 PM
Monday

He did admit it sucked that Ron Santo did not get into the Hall of Fame until after he was dead. Should have got a picture with him - my pappaw was a big Reds fan (and full disclosure, my mammaw never tried to set him on fire). But the Blackhawks had a playoff game that night and that was first and foremost on my mind. Blackhawks won FYI.

DinahMoeHum

(22,343 posts)
37. Had he not been coaching/managing in MLB. . .
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 10:06 PM
Monday

. . .Pete Rose would've been in the baseball HOF a long time ago. First ballot. No question. Even if there were issues of gambling while he was a player.
Players with worse character issues than that are in the HOF.

maxsolomon

(34,691 posts)
59. He never should have been a manager.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 12:05 PM
Tuesday

It really wasn't his skill set.

So, in a way, this is Marge Schott's fault for hiring him.

BumRushDaShow

(138,981 posts)
47. I'm guessing you missed this current fiasco
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 06:05 AM
Tuesday
Shohei Ohtani gambling scandal: Interpreter Ippei Mizuhara pleads guilty, faces up to 33 years in prison


By Matt Snyder & R.J. Anderson
Jun 4, 2024 at 2:21 pm ET



USATSI

Ippei Mizuhara, the former interpreter for Dodgers superstar Shohei Ohtani, pleaded guilty to bank and tax fraud charges on Tuesday morning. He faces a maximum sentence of 33 years in prison, five years of supervised release and a fine of $1,250,000 and will be sentenced on October 25, according to ESPN's Alden Gonzalez. Mizuhara did not answer questions after leaving the courthouse.

Mizuhara's charges stemmed from the gambling scandal in which he was accused of stealing almost $17 million from the baseball player and using it to place illegal bets, the U.S Attorney's Office for the Central District of California announced on May 8.

Mizuhara, described by the Attorney's Office as Ohtani's "de facto manager," pleaded guilty to one count of bank fraud and one count of subscribing to a false tax return.

The 39-year-old former interpreter will be required to pay full restitution to his victims, which includes $16,975,010 to Victim A, Ohtani, and $1,149,400 to the IRS.

(snip)


This type of thing has really been a no-no for over a century thanks to this -



Of course this year, the White Sox have set another, rather unsavory record but I won't go into that.

Music Man

(1,533 posts)
43. Rose was undoubtedly a great baseball player, but he deserved the lifetime ban.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 12:53 AM
Tuesday

Betting on games as manager, including betting against one's own team, is a serious ethical breach. He was in a position to change the outcomes of games. He stood to profit while adversely affecting the careers of his players. Anyone that says "people who've done worse are in the Hall of Fame" are engaging in whataboutism, not arguing the issue at hand.

moniss

(5,211 posts)
44. So many of the same ones
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 03:25 AM
Tuesday

who condemned him in life, or after themselves being enriched by his play acted like they couldn't speak his name, are now the ones to issue praise. There is always nothing so shallow as those who do this. You see it at funerals where people come and say things about the deceased that are a 180 degree turn from what they had been saying while the person had life. Moochers probably showing up to see if there is food after the funeral. I've had a belly full of such funerals in my life and been witness to many more.

Major League Baseball issued their hollow sympathies. It goes without saying the weasel nature of MLB being more than happy to make money off of the career of Pete Rose while proclaiming him to be pariah. Not another word MLB. Just STFU. At long last leave the name of Pete Rose out of your mouth. You never deserved him and on his worst day on earth he was still more as a human being than the MLB brass and the ones who turned away.

LeftInTX

(29,378 posts)
45. I didn't know he was that old. I would have guessed he was born in 1950.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 04:28 AM
Tuesday

Last edited Tue Oct 1, 2024, 11:18 AM - Edit history (1)

Full disclosure: I don't follow sports very much.

maxsolomon

(34,691 posts)
62. Johnny Bench was saying today that Rose had been offered a chance
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 02:46 PM
Tuesday

if he'd come clean publicly, but couldn't swallow his pride.

vapor2

(1,439 posts)
52. Took grandkids trick or treating last Oct
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 10:35 AM
Tuesday

and Pete was one block over signing $2 bills for every trick or treater. Have to add that he did serve jail time and repaid the IRS.

JohnnyRingo

(19,135 posts)
53. Bah! Pete Rose tried to ruin America's Pastime.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 10:36 AM
Tuesday

Gambling on baseball when he's directly involved in the sport takes it to a level with WWE Wrestling.
We can't believe any outcome or umpire call if mobsters and bookies are paying off players to throw games. Gambling debts are the easiest way to recruit players and managers into the corruption, and a team member can bet against their own team, then cash in.

He should never be seen as a hero of the game as an example to others.

Zambero

(9,480 posts)
55. Rose's record as one of baseball's all-time greats cannot be disputed
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 10:45 AM
Tuesday

However, his willingness to corrupt the sport for his own personal gain cannot be overlooked. MLB made the right decision and stood by it.

Mosby

(17,109 posts)
57. The NFL radically changed player rules about gambling
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 11:51 AM
Tuesday

New rules:

Don’t bet on the NFL.
Don’t gamble at your team facility while traveling for a road game or staying at a team hotel.
Don’t have someone bet for you.
Don’t share team “inside information.”
Don’t enter a sportsbook during the NFL playing season.
Don’t play daily fantasy football (DFS).

So they can bet on anything they want other than football, that's a complete 180 from the previous policies.

KPN

(15,996 posts)
60. Lifelong Red Sox fan. I will never forgive Pete Rose or Bob Gibson
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 01:52 PM
Tuesday

for their 4 games to 3 World Series victory over the Sox in 1975! A heartbreaker!

Otherwise, I have mixed feelings about Rose, both as a ball player and a person. His “hustle” sometimes appeared to be more showmanship to me at least.

maxsolomon

(34,691 posts)
63. Well, you got your WS wins in the Aughts, and then some.
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 02:50 PM
Tuesday

Reds had '90 (right after they'd fired Rose and hired a real manager, Lou Pinella), and floundering futility since then.

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