JD Vance says 2021 comments about giving more votes to people with kids were a 'thought experiment'
Source: NBC News
Aug. 11, 2024, 2:01 PM EDT
Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance on Sunday defended his 2021 comments about allocating more votes to people with children, saying they were a thought experiment.
In a widely circulated video clip from a 2021 speech he gave to a conservative organization called the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, Vance suggested giving more votes to people with children than to people who have none.
Lets give votes to all children in this country, but lets give control over those votes to the parents of those children, Vance said in his 2021 speech. When you go to the polls in this country as a parent, you should have more power you should have more of an ability to speak your voice in our democratic republic than people who dont have kids. Lets face the consequences and the reality: If you dont have as much of an investment in the future of this country, maybe you shouldnt get nearly the same voice.
During an interview on ABC News on Sunday, Vance, R-Ohio, maintained that his 2021 comment was not a policy proposal, but a thought experiment.
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/jd-vance-allotting-votes-people-children-thought-experiment-rcna166140
msongs
(69,611 posts)Raven123
(5,852 posts)Say it then claim it if it gets approval and deny, defuse or pretend you werent serious if it will lose you votes.
FSogol
(46,142 posts)Midnight Writer
(22,771 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(4,207 posts)He was completely serious.
Javaman
(62,959 posts)The religious nationalists thats who.
Fuck the couch fucker
calimary
(83,613 posts)Of course we couldn't use it as openly or often as we'd like - there are kids listening.
But dude! This will be part of the legacy with which you'll go down in history. For those who don't mind a little rough language. "The Couch Fucker."
Walleye
(34,226 posts)RainCaster
(11,365 posts)I wonder if he'll do that again? Apparently, he doesn't do that very often.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,216 posts)Bedbug (Vantz) had a good idea once but it died from loneliness.
lonely bird
(1,845 posts)It isnt like he has a lot of material to work with.
Clouds Passing
(1,410 posts)Attilatheblond
(3,894 posts)He really isn't very good at this politics thing. Having a billionaire buy you a public office based on your willingness to just be his puppet isn't going to teach Shady anything.
He might do better to try to work out his writer's block and knock off another book or two in the quiet of his home office.
slightlv
(3,849 posts)in this "democratic" country he says we are!
Quanto Magnus
(986 posts)because he 'thought' it was a great idea... until it wasn't.....
moniss
(5,211 posts)they don't believe in "one person one vote".
Zambero
(9,480 posts)From now on, any MAGA policy proposal from project 2025, Vance, et al is merely a "thought experiment". I take that to mean "they thought it was an experiment they could get away with, until it blew up in their faces".
Collimator
(1,765 posts). . . Extend to unmarried women on public assistance? Their children's futures are important, right? So, they get extra votes. And they might want to see the Child Tax Credit kept in place. Also, they might want Medicaid expanded in every state, and programs like Head Start could use more funding.
This might not be such a bad idea.
BattleRow
(715 posts)votes...they have LOTS of children.
Few if any cat ladies there!
mahina
(18,719 posts)Underneath.
Bump - OW
Every day
Bump -OW
She wasnt a stupid dog, but she didnt ever put two and two together ahead of time that getting up under the table would cause her to bang our head.
I see a parallel and that is giving massive credit to him because she was a beautiful soul
SeattleVet
(5,568 posts)0rganism
(24,438 posts)I'm getting a lot of weird results like "58 state Democratic sweep", and that can't be right, maybe the sim needs some constraint adjustments. Oh, also, if you're reading this Mr. Vance, try to avoid tall buildings with large windows for like... the next 3 years. Probably nothing, but the word "defenestration" does keep showing up in my simulations with alarming frequency.
Talitha
(7,312 posts)Hmmm...
Give votes to children BUT their parents do the actual voting.
So in the real world, you haven't 'given' the children anything.
Typical Repug.
Once the child is born, they get nothing.
(insert flamng asshole emoji here)
SunSeeker
(53,280 posts)I've heard a lot of lame efforts to downplay prior idiotic statements, but never "thought experiment." He is such a creepy weirdo.
Thought experiment is like alternative facts.
Roy Rolling
(7,135 posts)Thought experiment? WTF?
Ive never heard that expression, its word salad and means nothing.
I know. Ive experimented with a lot of things.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,704 posts)... how about giving the parents three fifths of a vote for each child they own. There might be constitutional precedence if you squint just so ...
Marcuse
(7,924 posts)bullimiami
(13,850 posts)magicarpet
(15,941 posts)It was a Fascist fevered dream where you hoped to concoct a plan to grab more power to enable you to achieve your Nazi utopia more rapidly.
Baitball Blogger
(47,558 posts)Ray Bruns
(4,439 posts)Conjuay
(1,912 posts)Who owned land were allowed to vote.
I guess what they say about elephants is true, they never forget.
This is a republican wet dream.
BumRushDaShow
(138,981 posts)by forcing an "address" (in whatever form THEY "dictate" ) in order to be able to register to vote. E.g., those forced to use a P.O. box because there is either no "address" for them (rural, RVer, boater, etc) or they are unsheltered and moving from facility to facility, then here comes the problem.
twodogsbarking
(11,874 posts)I didn't make this up.
murielm99
(31,298 posts)I tried it on my husband. I thought at him and told him to do all the housework and make a million dollars in income this year. He thought some stuff at me. Didn't work.