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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYou know, we treat our Democratic former presidents
With respect and deference. On the other hand, I cant remember calling Reagan and the two Bushes the vile epithets I assign to that motherfucking, child raping, fat bag of shit currently drawing flies in our house.
The sad fact that a worldwide spontaneous party will happen when that grotesque fuckwad finally goes horizontal is a testimony to who the fuck he is.
Swede
(40,484 posts)
Ocelot II
(131,758 posts)Nixon's personality traits come closest to Trump's - he was often nasty and vindictive and quite willing to violate the law to get what he wanted; however, he also knew there were lines he couldn't cross, and he didn't make the entire presidency about himself. He even did a few things that were actually useful. When he resigned I was relieved because the system worked and I knew we'd never again have such a bad, dishonest president. Silly me. I didn't think much at all about Ford and Bush I - not crazy about either of them but neither tried to wreck the government (except for the pardoning Nixon bit). Disliked Reagan intensely but didn't wake up every morning wondering hopefully whether he was dead yet, even though he was showing signs of deterioration in his second term. Bush II was a clueless doofus, a spoiled nepobaby who had no business being anywhere near serious government. But even despite the Iraq debacle I didn't imagine his demise every minute. IIRC, there were no "Is he dead yet?" threads on DU. The chipping away of the foundations of government that started in his term came more from SCOTUS than from Bush himself. I was certainly glad to see him go, and especially glad that he had at least the decency to pretty much disappear - I think he knew he'd fucked up Iraq and he was capable of shame.
The glaring difference between these presidents is that Trump shows in all its hellish glory the element of pathological, in-your-face malevolence, the kind of viciousness and spite that even Nixon, nasty as he often was, didn't possess. At least all of them liked animals! Trump is one of those uncommon individuals who is just plain bad to the bone, without any redeeming qualities at all. He doesn't like the arts except to use them for his personal glorification. He has no use for nature except to give it to his cronies to exploit. He treats the government as his personal fiefdom and demands constant worship. But he doesn't seem to love anyone, even his own family, and nobody loves him. He's just a bundle of transactions. He's at the center of a Venn diagram of stupid, crazy, and evil. And I wake up every morning hoping that the answer to Orrex' question is finally Yes.
harumph
(3,519 posts)Trump is qualitatively different from the usual baddies we've endured in the past.
dalton99a
(96,160 posts)The monster is in his own category.
TexLaProgressive
(12,824 posts)a conversation with the old man.
Eventually the topic got around to former Texas Governor George W. Bush and his going to the White House. The old Texan said, "Well, ya
know, - Bush is a 'post turtle'."
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a 'post turtle' was. The old rancher said, "When you're driving down a country
- road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post turtle."
The old man saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain:
"You know he didn't get there by himself, he doesn't
belong there, he doesn't know what to do while he's up there, and you just want to help the dumb **** get down and move the hell ON!
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mwmisses4289
(5,101 posts)was calling him a stupid crook, reagan was a senile old man, and both the bushes were shrub, stupid bastards, or maybe stupid fucking bastards for doing something really dumb. But that's the worst I can think of that we called them.
RamblingRose
(1,166 posts)slightlv
(8,171 posts)is that this current "president" has corrupted the entire country. Speaking for myself only, I'd never really known such rage-filled hatred before he came down that escalator. His first term was so hard on me, I ended up blood pressure pills and anti-depressants for the first time in my life. And I still say that all of us on the left are suffering through various stages and depths of PTSD and deserve reparations for the total unnecessity of the whole experience. I thought living through Reagan and Bushes was bad. I only *thought* I knew what bad was. Luckily, I'm still able to talk to my repug neighbor in a cordial fashion, as long as we stay away from politics, arts, humanities, or anything else of importance. And I've reached out to help others when I see the need. I've paid forward medical copays and grocery store sums; and wonder of wonder, hubby and I were the recipients of a "pay forward" at an Arby's restaurant! So I still look for the good and pay attention to those around me... and to the nature experiences I have when I get out of the house. That does seem to help; but at no time has anyone ever engendered me to such seething hatred as DJT.