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erronis

(24,755 posts)
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 02:49 PM Yesterday

Ivanka Trump Says She Discovered an Island. Here's What Albania Just Handed Her Husband.

https://kaitjustice.substack.com/p/ivanka-trump-albania-epstein-kushner
Kait Justice

Before Jared Kushner's deal, the same Adriatic coastline was appearing in Jeffrey Epstein's files alongside Nat Rothschild, Gulf money, Israeli politics, and plans for the Balkans.

On May 31, 2026, Ivanka Trump went on the David Senra Founders Podcast and described an island in Albania called Sazan that she said she and her husband had discovered while swimming off a friend's boat. She said they had spent years "developing the opportunity" to transform it and called it a private island. Within hours the Albanian internet was on fire and by the next morning the protest signs in Tirana read Albania is not for sale.

Sazan is the largest island in Albania. It sits at the mouth of the Strait of Otranto, which is the narrow strip of water between Italy and Albania that controls all shipping and naval traffic between the Mediterranean Sea and the Adriatic Sea. Every ship and every submarine that moves between those two seas has to pass through that strait. The island has been classified as a military zone for roughly ninety years, occupied by the Italian Fascist regime in the 1930s, used by Nazi Germany during the Second World War, then fortified by Albania's communist government with more than three thousand soldiers and bunkers built to survive a nuclear attack.

. . .

The Albanian government opened Sazan for limited tourist boat tours in 2015, and international travel publications have been writing about it ever since. It's safe to assume most Albanians alive today know this island as a highly fortified piece of military land in their country.

The friend whose boat Ivanka was describing is Nathaniel Rothschild, a British financier and the son of the late Jacob Rothschild. Kushner confirmed on the All-In Podcast that they got picked up in Montenegro in the summer of 2021 and sailed south toward the Greek island of Corfu, stopping in Albanian waters where Prime Minister Edi Rama came aboard the yacht. Kushner said he hadn't met Rama during the first Trump administration and was "very impressed by his vision."

. . .

Albania's anti-corruption prosecutors, known as SPAK, opened an investigation in late May 2026 into how those legal changes were made and who was behind them. Meanwhile, protests have been going for weeks under the slogan "Albania is not for sale."

So naturally, if they are investigating, I am too. And the first thing that caught my attention is that Nathaniel Rothschild is not just a wealthy guy with a yacht. He has already done this exact kind of deal once before, one country over, on the same coastline.

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Ivanka Trump Says She Discovered an Island. Here's What Albania Just Handed Her Husband. (Original Post) erronis Yesterday OP
OP here. Please note the extensive reporting on the links to Epstein, Deripaska and others erronis Yesterday #1
Why am I not surprised? Bumbles Yesterday #2
Yes, there's a big Rothschild estate/escape on Corfu, just across the strait from Albania. TheRickles Yesterday #3
PBS aired the series: The Durrells in Corfu MagickMuffin Yesterday #5
I loved his books. Didn't know there was a series made - will search for it. erronis Yesterday #7
The Durrell's never crossed paths with the Rothschilds. TheRickles Yesterday #16
I see, I want, I take. Farmer-Rick Yesterday #4
"I can't help myself. I just grab them." - President Donald J. Trump musing about attractive women Midnight Writer Yesterday #14
Yes, that's how the Trumps feel about everything PatSeg Yesterday #17
K&R spanone Yesterday #6
so she tried a Christopher Columbus 🤔 southmost Yesterday #8
It's not an easily developable place. maxsolomon Yesterday #9
I can imagine that lots of explosives and money can create beaches erronis Yesterday #11
Another DdU'er (sorry, I forget who), posted about the 3,000+ bunkers niyad Yesterday #12
Exactly who owns the island right now? no_hypocrisy Yesterday #10
The Epstein Class Kid Berwyn Yesterday #13
How in the FUCKING HELLLLLLL do you "discover"* something that niyad Yesterday #15
We know that when these types are quiet, they're up to no good! erronis Yesterday #21
Hell yeah orangecrush Yesterday #18
I have never thought of Epstein as anything more than a middle manager (more or less) Maybe a LiberalArkie Yesterday #19
That is a most interesting take on him. Who do you think was/is actually niyad 23 hrs ago #22
Who was doing it before Epstein? LiberalArkie 18 hrs ago #23
I saw her video and just rolled my eyes - TBF Yesterday #20
When people feel sorry for her for possibly being sexually abused by BigmanPigman 17 hrs ago #24
Disgusting Cirsium 6 hrs ago #25
JFC - The island is a key world strategic point! There's more to this than meets the eye jmbar2 6 hrs ago #26

erronis

(24,755 posts)
1. OP here. Please note the extensive reporting on the links to Epstein, Deripaska and others
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 03:13 PM
Yesterday

Kait pulls together a lot of material that include Russians, Israelis, Saudis, trumpy's. The web is huge.

MagickMuffin

(18,379 posts)
5. PBS aired the series: The Durrells in Corfu
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:17 PM
Yesterday


British naturalist Gerald Durrell wrote three books about his 1935–1940 childhood on Corfu: My Family and Other Animals; Birds, Beasts and Relatives; and The Garden of the Gods. His brother, literary author Lawrence Durrell, also wrote a volume about Corfu: Prospero's Cell: A Guide to the Landscape and Manners of the Island of Corcyra (Corfu).

ITV aired a TV series named The Durrells in Corfu in April 2016 and ultimately lasted four seasons, concluding in May 2019. It was a biographical series detailing Gerald Durrell's childhood on Corfu


I watched the series very well done and such beautiful scenery.


erronis

(24,755 posts)
7. I loved his books. Didn't know there was a series made - will search for it.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:24 PM
Yesterday

Lawrence (Gerald's brother) was also a fascinating author to me as a mid-teenager. Very, very different subjects, usually.

TheRickles

(3,553 posts)
16. The Durrell's never crossed paths with the Rothschilds.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 05:02 PM
Yesterday

Different social strata, and their stay on Corfu in the 1930s preceded the Rothschilds' development of their estate by several decades. Would've been interesting to see what Gerald and Lawrence would've made of the Rothschilds!

Farmer-Rick

(12,817 posts)
4. I see, I want, I take.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:12 PM
Yesterday

That's how the filthy-rich think and expect everyone to kowtow to their whims. Some deep bowing and subservient body language is also expected when they tell you what to do.

Who allowed these idiots to have so much wealth?

Midnight Writer

(25,903 posts)
14. "I can't help myself. I just grab them." - President Donald J. Trump musing about attractive women
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:59 PM
Yesterday

PatSeg

(53,814 posts)
17. Yes, that's how the Trumps feel about everything
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 05:09 PM
Yesterday

They see it, they want it, and they take it.

maxsolomon

(39,271 posts)
9. It's not an easily developable place.
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:32 PM
Yesterday

Last edited Tue Jun 9, 2026, 07:38 PM - Edit history (1)

There's 1 beach right next to the harbor. If the harbor weren't there, no beach.

Otherwise, the coast is rocky or cliffy. There's barely a flat spot to build.

erronis

(24,755 posts)
11. I can imagine that lots of explosives and money can create beaches
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:53 PM
Yesterday

Just like they can destroy US national parks, the East Wing of the WH, etc.

niyad

(134,750 posts)
12. Another DdU'er (sorry, I forget who), posted about the 3,000+ bunkers
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:56 PM
Yesterday

on the island, left over from WWII and the Cold War. The wiki entry on the island is most interesting.

no_hypocrisy

(55,582 posts)
10. Exactly who owns the island right now?
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:34 PM
Yesterday

The government or the country of Albania?

If so, wouldn't an act of their legislature be mandated for the sale? Or is it an Albanian executive order?

Is the sale a done deal?

Kid Berwyn

(25,299 posts)
13. The Epstein Class
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 04:56 PM
Yesterday
Epstein files show Swiss bank CEO de Rothschild kept up years‑long personal contact with financier

* De Rothschild 'unequivocally condemns' Epstein's crimes, spokesperson says
* Banker, financier agreed to meet in New York, Paris
* Epstein died by suicide in 2019 in a Manhattan jail cell


By Ariane Luthi and Tommy Reggiori Wilkes
Reuters, February 5, 202

ZURICH/LONDON, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Ariane de Rothschild, head of the family-owned Edmond de Rothschild Swiss private bank, corresponded dozens of times with the late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and agreed to multiple meetings over about five years before his 2019 arrest and jailing, U.S. Justice Department files show.

The documents, released by the U.S. Justice Department on Friday, do not appear to contain any sign of criminal wrongdoing. But they raise questions about an earlier characterisation by the bank of their relationship, cited by the Wall Street Journal in 2023, which said she met with Epstein as part of her normal duties at the bank.

Snip...

The correspondence shows the two arranged multiple meetings over several years at Epstein's homes in New York and Paris and that he invited de Rothschild to stay at his apartment.

On March 19, 2019, about four months before his arrest, Epstein wrote to de Rothschild, informing her he was in Paris. She responded: "Are you really ?!! I'm here as well. When would you be free?"

'IT'S BEEN MUCH TOO LONG'

"its (sic) been much much too long," Epstein replied, before they arranged to meet the following day. Reuters could not establish if they met as planned on this occasion or on previous ones as the correspondence suggests.

Continues...

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/epstein-files-show-swiss-bank-ceo-de-rothschild-kept-up-yearslong-personal-2026-02-05/

Small world, going by its few owners "helping" one another allatime.

niyad

(134,750 posts)
15. How in the FUCKING HELLLLLLL do you "discover"* something that
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 05:00 PM
Yesterday

has been in continuous use for centuries?

I had been wondering what czarina/princess sparkle pony has been up lately. She had seemed oddly quiet. Now, appallingly, we know.

*like columbus "discovering" the "new world", which was populated, and had some remarkble civilizations.

LiberalArkie

(19,947 posts)
19. I have never thought of Epstein as anything more than a middle manager (more or less) Maybe a
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 05:28 PM
Yesterday

regional VP or so. Never the top dog.

niyad

(134,750 posts)
22. That is a most interesting take on him. Who do you think was/is actually
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 07:06 PM
23 hrs ago

pulling the strings?

TBF

(37,502 posts)
20. I saw her video and just rolled my eyes -
Tue Jun 9, 2026, 05:51 PM
Yesterday

who talks like that? Seriously. I can't stand her or the husband.

BigmanPigman

(55,697 posts)
24. When people feel sorry for her for possibly being sexually abused by
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 01:07 AM
17 hrs ago

Dear Leader I have ZERO sympathy. She is grifting $$$ millions from the USA. F*ck off! She's her daddy's double, only in high heels.

Cirsium

(4,184 posts)
25. Disgusting
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 12:23 PM
6 hrs ago

Her remarks in that interview were one of the most disgusting things I have ever heard.

jmbar2

(8,240 posts)
26. JFC - The island is a key world strategic point! There's more to this than meets the eye
Wed Jun 10, 2026, 12:29 PM
6 hrs ago
Sazan is the largest island in Albania. It sits at the mouth of the Strait of Otranto, which is the narrow strip of water between Italy and Albania that controls all shipping and naval traffic between the Mediterranean Sea and the Adriatic Sea. Every ship and every submarine that moves between those two seas has to pass through that strait. The island has been classified as a military zone for roughly ninety years, occupied by the Italian Fascist regime in the 1930s, used by Nazi Germany during the Second World War, then fortified by Albania’s communist government with more than three thousand soldiers and bunkers built to survive a nuclear attack.
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