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I am starting to get the sneaking suspicion the Confederacy was insufficiently punished
— Seth Abramson (@sethabramson.bsky.social) 2026-05-07T23:55:35.758Z
sheshe2
(98,247 posts)They were just dormant under the sheets for a bit.
Buddyzbuddy
(2,820 posts)Oh yeah, and they've opened membership to a minority.
dalton99a
(95,111 posts)TomSlick
(13,075 posts)Instead of trying the rebel leaders for treason, they were lionized and allowed to sow the seeds Jim Crow and today's white nationalism.
The US was too quick to "bind up the nation's wounds." Real reconstruction of the rebellious states was made impossible by failing to punish the leaders of the rebellion. The US won the war and lost the peace.
OldBaldy1701E
(11,453 posts)yellow dahlia
(6,384 posts)With what's going on with gerrymandering - maybe we would be better off w/out the South.
BeneteauBum
(718 posts)Peace ☮️
yellow dahlia
(6,384 posts)I am glad to see so many voices standing up in Tennessee and elsewhere.
relogic
(215 posts)rose out of the white, European entitlement spawned from colonialism. The founders and our grand experiment was blemished, rotten and riddled with racism, not so easily detected or unveiled fully in those 60 -70 years since that founding. Then, the same ugliness we see now of white entitlement came to a head. A civil war, indeed.
We must punish ourselves today as we must the well-meaning carpenters of independence, though their horror at what theyve seen created must be enough.
Dave Id
(318 posts)they just retreated, then spread their toxic racism throughout the country.
blubunyip
(300 posts)the toxic racism spread? Must have found some fertile ground...
Exp
(1,017 posts)dflprincess
(29,405 posts)Should have just treated them as territories like Guam or Puerto Rico.
IzzaNuDay
(1,323 posts)Hint to West Coast lets get the heck out of here!
RainCaster
(13,853 posts)Let's take NY & MA as well.
Canada can nationalize Trump's properties, them convert them to serve the needy.
GiqueCee
(4,617 posts)... Confederates were traitors. Celebrating them in any way, shape, or form, can no longer be condoned. It should never have been condoned at all. Ever. But too many slaveholders and their sympathizers in the North let lowlifes lead the way for far, far too long.
My surname is very common in the South. And I've known People of Color that share that name because their ancestors were the property of some of my ancestors. I can never make amends for that obscene travesty; I can only try to live my life better, and give what little I can to make the lives of others a little better.
I'm old. Hell, I don't even buy green bananas, and folks younger than me drop like flies every day, so I harbor no illusions that I'll live long enough to help make the world a better place. I'm just a drop in that bucket, but they say a single drop counts. I will keep trying to count.
Permanut
(8,534 posts)I was born and raised in the Northwest, which was not squeaky clean of the stench. The KKK was very active in Oregon in the 20's.
blubunyip
(300 posts)etc etc. You can South bash all you want, but toxic racism is everywhere.
Amusing to me how some people in the North want to feel squeaky clean while otherizing "The South."
It's not productive. Especially not considering the other ways the PTB have successfully divided us.
moondust
(21,337 posts)During the Reconstruction era of the 1860s and 1870s, the Southern United States fell under federal military oversight. The compromise (of 1877) entailed that Democrats ended both a filibuster of the certified (1876) election results as well as threats of political violence in exchange for the Republicans' ending military oversight. When (Rutherford B.) Hayes took office, he withdrew the last federal troops from the South, which historians largely regard as the end of Reconstruction.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compromise_of_1877
returnee
(971 posts)Playing off the inherent flaws in our Constitution, the Lincoln and Johnson administrations failed to adequately punish the remnants of the confederacy thus allowing the inherent sociopathy therein to fester. We now have a situation not unlike leaving an infection in the human body insufficiently treated, leading to resistance to increasingly potent antibiotics. We now appear to have a democracy-resistant fascist infection.
Rhiannon12866
(258,091 posts)Citizenship restored in his lifetime. But Senator Harry Byrd conducted a 5-year campaign to pardon him, since Lee had signed an oath of allegiance, and it passed, so President Ford signed the bill in 1975.
orangecrush
(30,941 posts)lonely bird
(3,008 posts)They won the peace.
The Party of Lincoln️ abandoned the Black people with the machinations of the election in 1876. Conservatives wanted to do business with the South and that was deemed more important than what happened to the former slaves.
Susan Calvin
(2,466 posts)That's a fact.
dalton99a
(95,111 posts)Blue Owl
(59,533 posts)Clouds Passing
(8,157 posts)Whip-poor-will
(454 posts)How about a law requiring any confederate statues include a white flag