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Fozzledick

(3,918 posts)
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:11 PM Monday

U.S. Troops Were Told Iran War Is for "Armageddon," Return of Jesus

A combat-unit commander told non-commissioned officers at a briefing Monday that the Iran war is part of God’s plan and that Pres. Donald Trump was “anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon and mark his return to Earth,” according to a complaint by a non-commissioned officer.

From Saturday morning through Monday night, more than 110 similar complaints about commanders in every branch of the military had been logged by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF).

The complaints came from more than 40 different units spread across at least 30 military installations, the MRFF told me Monday night.
***
The NCO wrote to the MRFF that their commander “urged us to tell our troops that this was ‘all part of God’s divine plan’ and he specifically referenced numerous citations out of the Book of Revelation referring to Armageddon and the imminent return of Jesus Christ.”


https://jonathanlarsen.substack.com/p/us-troops-were-told-iran-war-is-for

This is it! They're trying to Immanentize the Eschaton!!
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U.S. Troops Were Told Iran War Is for "Armageddon," Return of Jesus (Original Post) Fozzledick Monday OP
Not surprised if this is true chicoescuela Monday #1
I'll be shocked if it's not true.... Ol Janx Spirit 15 hrs ago #76
It's rather bdamomma 10 hrs ago #121
I don't get the impression they see him as a prophet--more of a conduit maybe; or a tool. Ol Janx Spirit 9 hrs ago #132
DJT is their profit. BattleRow 7 hrs ago #135
The two biggest problems on the planet are... Trust_Reality 15 hrs ago #86
Not to forget Climate Change. Justice matters. 4 hrs ago #160
Nobody knows what Jesus looked like. Towlie 15 hrs ago #88
I seem to have heard that "Jesus is coming back" somewhere around 471 times. chouchou Monday #2
Jesus: NCDem47 15 hrs ago #79
That's why the religious fanatics are getting desperate enough to try to start an actual... Ol Janx Spirit 15 hrs ago #80
and he's mad as hell...... n/t lastlib 15 hrs ago #82
You got me laughing! chouchou 15 hrs ago #85
I've heard the end times are happening now for decades....so far though it's still not happened. cstanleytech 11 hrs ago #112
Country Joe & The Fish had it right years ago... wcmagumba Monday #3
I LOVE THESE GUYS! ABC123Easy Monday #6
Just looked it up and Country Joe McDonald is still living and kicking it around at 84...Cool... wcmagumba Monday #14
Perfect song for TODAY and back then. bluestarone 15 hrs ago #87
I met him once YoshidaYui 3 hrs ago #163
I saw Barry Melton at a Gathering of the Tribe feast & concert up in Northern California in December NBachers Yesterday #42
I was there Henry203 22 hrs ago #53
The song only needs a minor alteration. Towlie 15 hrs ago #77
Well done. calimary 13 hrs ago #95
Brings back some good memories. Glad I got a chance to live through that. kerry-is-my-prez 11 hrs ago #116
Thank you so very much for sharing. I would love to get together a bunch of cornball 24 10 hrs ago #118
Any sourced reports other than some guy's blog? Fiendish Thingy Monday #4
I think it is true Horseshoeluck Yesterday #39
Here is Mikey Weinstein's link to the story markodochartaigh 12 hrs ago #99
What makes me angry is that I am not Bettie Monday #5
Jesus sees his shadow, so there will be Johonny Monday #7
But I thought that it was the Tooth Fairy? Dave Bowman Monday #16
It's different this time around. The rash on his neck was the tell mjvpi Yesterday #29
Great, militaries for all three belligerents are led by religious fanatics newdeal2 Monday #8
Let's ask AI which religion is more righteous. mjvpi Yesterday #30
So...TSF has been anointed by Jesus and the Iran leaders have Allah on their side so this is a holy war? Deuxcents Monday #9
This is Little Mikey Johnson's wet dream fantasy. yellow dahlia Monday #10
Does Moses Mike Traildogbob 11 hrs ago #110
Very good question. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #117
I suppose to some people this sounds a bit odd. markodochartaigh Monday #11
Trump is losing supporters, even some magas, so he thinks this will shore up the fundie zealot end timers nuts Attilatheblond Yesterday #26
The Arrogance of religion. Roc2020 Monday #12
Indeed. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 11 hrs ago #113
TRUMP looks as much like 'the Antichrist' as much as any previous dictator--- Jack Valentino Monday #13
Trump is not smart enough to be the anti-christ...maybe a low level demon of some sort... wcmagumba Monday #17
Nowhere in the Bible did it say that the supposed anti-christ was "smart"...... Jack Valentino Monday #21
I never read that book, it's bad for my angina... wcmagumba Monday #23
I haven't read it in a long time either---- but I have 'very sinfully' asked A.I. to Jack Valentino Monday #24
I still don't understand how MAGAS figure B.See 23 hrs ago #46
They're listening to modern day prophets that have their own TV shows. Lars39 15 hrs ago #78
They don't figure because they don't read what Jesus said about the last days. These ain't the last days. ancianita 6 hrs ago #141
in it for the power i.e. MONAAAY B.See 6 hrs ago #143
I have a neighbor who hates Trump because she believes that he is the anti Christ. wnylib 4 hrs ago #161
How will Jesus communicate with the millions of followers? By Instagram, WhatsApp, email, text? dalton99a Monday #15
He will send I_UndergroundPanther 22 hrs ago #51
"A figure which looks like Jesus Christ" ??? I thought it looked like a big check mark ! nt eppur_se_muova 17 hrs ago #59
O ye of little faith dalton99a 17 hrs ago #60
Why not eat it? Aren't the wine and wafers passed out at communion... 3catwoman3 10 hrs ago #120
lol That's not how transubstantiation works. ancianita 6 hrs ago #142
I was just being an irreverent... 3catwoman3 6 hrs ago #144
ahh cool... cuz the beating of heads on walls didn't seem to imply smartass ancianita 6 hrs ago #147
The head banging is because this kind of mystical claptrap... 3catwoman3 5 hrs ago #154
It looks like a giant hand giving the world the finger The Blue Flower 7 hrs ago #136
Donald the Lion Farted will lead the crusade. usonian Monday #18
On his way to the Horns of Hattin, I hope . . . hatrack 15 hrs ago #75
It takes absolutely monstrous arrogance to believe that your military actions influence God. milestogo Monday #19
When they say return of Jesus they mean nukes Blues Heron Monday #20
Because the Almighty, though almighty, is still not mighty enough to start a Mideast clusterfuck by Himself. Mister Ed Monday #22
They should all be removed from command and tried for Traitorous Seditious Conspiracy. BurnDoubt Yesterday #25
When we take control of the government again, Jasmin Crocket forAG. mjvpi Yesterday #33
Yes, Please! BurnDoubt 23 hrs ago #48
Me, I'm all in for Jack Smith as AG. Best and most experienced, and knows everything ancianita 6 hrs ago #153
Holy shit. SunSeeker Yesterday #27
I see what you did there. John1956PA Yesterday #28
Judaism, Islam and Christianity - a three cornered Abrahamic death match... Another Jackalope Yesterday #31
Capitalsm mjvpi Yesterday #35
Supplies the weapons to all sides. Another Jackalope Yesterday #37
Good one! calimary 13 hrs ago #97
+1 leftstreet 10 hrs ago #122
I agree, but when you have people who literally worship the concept... OldBaldy1701E 8 hrs ago #134
When Fascism comes to America,it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. BattleRow 7 hrs ago #137
What if Sekhmet returns I_UndergroundPanther 22 hrs ago #50
The word "rapture" is nowhere in the Bible. ancianita 6 hrs ago #146
Gaslighting Shite... They do NOT follow the Cha Yesterday #32
bunch of heretics. B.See 23 hrs ago #47
Worshippers of The Anti Christ.. Cha 22 hrs ago #49
Being raised Evangelical Pentacostal, this would be laughable, IF... czarjak Yesterday #34
IT isn't real. No one can "hasten" anything, because no one knows when the Second Coming will come, not the angels, ancianita 6 hrs ago #149
It isn't real for a reason! czarjak 5 hrs ago #158
I guess that means this rapture thingy will be happening soon. Dr. T Yesterday #36
I really don't look forward I_UndergroundPanther 22 hrs ago #52
Michael Flynn Puppyjive Yesterday #38
The Four Pantloads of the Apocalypse Blue Owl Yesterday #40
Fozzledick, I remember reding the Illuminati books, and loved that phrase, "immanentize the Eschaton! ShazamIam Yesterday #41
I have no doubt this is true LogDog75 Yesterday #43
Based on your post, I think you left out a word... 3catwoman3 10 hrs ago #123
Thanks for catching that. LogDog75 6 hrs ago #145
The only difference between these people and the Taliban/Al Qaeda... RetiredParatrooper Yesterday #44
Oh... Just "wonderful".... electric_blue68 Yesterday #45
Led by Fuckabee malaise 22 hrs ago #54
I'm sure Fuckabee has a tent all set up johnnyfins 14 hrs ago #91
THIS malaise 11 hrs ago #111
Well, then... that settles it! Alephy 21 hrs ago #55
Had to Google "Immanentize the Eschaton" for meaning. Aussie105 21 hrs ago #56
US troops being led by mentally ill, psychotic leaders. Irish_Dem 21 hrs ago #57
I'm reading this. Dangerous beyond words. Creating Zealots. Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #58
Could be a made up story. Just as dangerous. Kaleva 16 hrs ago #69
MRFF is a well known and respected organization, and Larsen writes articles for their website muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #71
Look up the MRFF mountain grammy 13 hrs ago #98
Do you have a link to where they confirm this? Kaleva 12 hrs ago #104
Here is the link to Mikey Weinstein's story markodochartaigh 12 hrs ago #100
Thanks! Kaleva 12 hrs ago #105
Distration from the Trump-Epstein files is now biblical? Ruby the Liberal 16 hrs ago #61
What should I wear when Jesus returns? Should I cook something? How long is he staying? twodogsbarking 16 hrs ago #62
Unknown, but Bible says keep your bathroom clean and well-stocked dalton99a 16 hrs ago #65
Does he have a gluten allergy? twodogsbarking 16 hrs ago #67
Unlikely, according to Bible scholars in Tennessee. But he is probably partial to tobacco dalton99a 16 hrs ago #68
He booked a room in Salt Lake City. That don't look so good. twodogsbarking 16 hrs ago #70
When he returns he will have to die again just to cover Trump's sins. twodogsbarking 7 hrs ago #138
And for God's sake, wear clean underwear! maxrandb 10 hrs ago #126
With Charmin Ultra Soft, Scott Comfort Plus, or Angel Soft for the Bible humper-thrumpers? LogDog75 6 hrs ago #148
A few loaves & fishes will last however long he stays, but get your Ilsa 9 hrs ago #130
lol ancianita 6 hrs ago #152
This moron needs to be thrown out of the military yesterday. travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #63
FFRF.org ZDU 16 hrs ago #64
I predict that when Jesus doesn't show up, a lot of people are going to be sorely disappointed. Ray Bruns 16 hrs ago #66
Doesn't matter, they're eaisly fooled into something else LogDog75 6 hrs ago #150
Yep. They've been grabbing on to "next dates" for over 200 years. ancianita 6 hrs ago #151
Doesn't surpise me at all bluestarone 15 hrs ago #72
What a crock of SHIT! hatrack 15 hrs ago #73
Nothing like telling a soldier he's (she's) dead before he (she) even leaves our country. bluestarone 15 hrs ago #74
Armageddon wouldn't happen unless there were people intentionally causing it. Clouds Passing 15 hrs ago #81
OK Now I'm worried. flashman13 15 hrs ago #83
Do ya doubt it? lastlib 15 hrs ago #84
It wouldn't be the first time they used that line! Hope22 14 hrs ago #89
Ah...its like the days of my youth. A much loved aunt... NNadir 14 hrs ago #90
Why doesn't anybody talk about consequences for following ILLEGAL orders??? tazcat 14 hrs ago #92
FUCK RELIGION -- ALL OF THEM! OMGWTF 14 hrs ago #93
They try to force the Apocalypse to placate the Christo-fascists who will themselves be destroyed. GreenWave 13 hrs ago #94
My parents were evangelical. They did not believe in the Rapture or Armageddon. HeartsCanHope 13 hrs ago #96
That's creepy as hell to this non-believer. greatauntoftriplets 12 hrs ago #101
Every human will escape the "rapture" because it ain't happenin' ancianita 5 hrs ago #156
Probably, though I wouldn't mind seeing a lot of the MAGAts go poof somewhere. greatauntoftriplets 3 hrs ago #162
But Jesus knows who did what in the Epstein files. n/t flvegan 12 hrs ago #102
Though it's not surprising, I'm shocked! If that's possible JohnnyRingo 12 hrs ago #103
Complete insanity. valleyrogue 12 hrs ago #106
I really despise mixing religion with military... same with with government! liberalla 12 hrs ago #107
If the report is true, then IMO, the officer must be removed from post sakabatou 12 hrs ago #108
That is some scary shit. Religious maniacs in charge of our military? What could go wrong? Martin68 11 hrs ago #109
I Know The US Air Force Is A Hotbed Of This Thinking. BBbats 11 hrs ago #114
I served 28 years in the AF LogDog75 5 hrs ago #155
Yup, the chaotic Iran's Armageddon aka Operation Epstein Fury Miami Blue 11 hrs ago #115
So, we have people in high positions who think they are fighting for their invisible friend? Americanme 10 hrs ago #119
This bullshit reinforces my thinking that rather than... 3catwoman3 10 hrs ago #124
This is spelled out hermetic 10 hrs ago #125
It's all about the Apocalypse: Another disturbing reason behind the right wing's pro-Israel obsession LetMyPeopleVote 10 hrs ago #127
Maybe aliens will cosplay "angels" and take these idiots Ilsa 10 hrs ago #128
That sounds like the "Heaven's Gate" cult from the 70s...I'd be happy to see them leave... wcmagumba 9 hrs ago #131
Maybe. ancianita 5 hrs ago #157
That is so good! Thanks! nt Ilsa 2 hrs ago #164
This message was self-deleted by its author LetMyPeopleVote 10 hrs ago #129
Unbelievable liberal N proud 8 hrs ago #133
If Jesus returns to earth, will he smile favorably upon Martin Eden 7 hrs ago #139
Disgusting proselytizing to your troops Evolve Dammit 7 hrs ago #140
So these mortal fools think THEY can initiate Armageddon? Beartracks 4 hrs ago #159

Ol Janx Spirit

(939 posts)
76. I'll be shocked if it's not true....
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:55 AM
15 hrs ago

This has been gospel in evangelical circles for a while. It is entirely how they justify their support for such a loathsome human being.....

bdamomma

(69,490 posts)
121. It's rather
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:00 PM
10 hrs ago

sick thinking. let them all go and leave those of us who want to practice religion our own way. And to think this POS thug DJT is their what Prophet????

Ol Janx Spirit

(939 posts)
132. I don't get the impression they see him as a prophet--more of a conduit maybe; or a tool.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:16 PM
9 hrs ago

He is definitely a tool.

And from selling them bibles and hats and everything else makes them his profit....

They are also tools.

Trust_Reality

(2,287 posts)
86. The two biggest problems on the planet are...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:23 AM
15 hrs ago

Greed and religion.

Incidentally, years ago, religious folks, especially evangelicals, began migrating to Colorado Springs, home of the US Air Force Academy.
Interesting?

Justice matters.

(9,654 posts)
160. Not to forget Climate Change.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:58 PM
4 hrs ago

No, we will not "adapt" because billions will die. Armageddon will come but not the way they think it will.

Towlie

(5,571 posts)
88. Nobody knows what Jesus looked like.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:29 AM
15 hrs ago

Maybe he's already here and doing children's parties with his magic act.

Ol Janx Spirit

(939 posts)
80. That's why the religious fanatics are getting desperate enough to try to start an actual...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:59 AM
15 hrs ago

...war and not just keep predicting it will happen.

They've been perpetually wrong, and they aim to change that "by god."



Funny though that they want to attack the middle east so that they can end up being led by a guy from the middle east.

cstanleytech

(28,383 posts)
112. I've heard the end times are happening now for decades....so far though it's still not happened.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:55 PM
11 hrs ago

wcmagumba

(5,993 posts)
14. Just looked it up and Country Joe McDonald is still living and kicking it around at 84...Cool...
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:28 PM
Monday

bluestarone

(21,973 posts)
87. Perfect song for TODAY and back then.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:24 AM
15 hrs ago

A second song would be super great!! TY for this.

NBachers

(19,363 posts)
42. I saw Barry Melton at a Gathering of the Tribe feast & concert up in Northern California in December
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:38 AM
Yesterday

Barry and his band were absolutely phenomenal! He’s still on the circuit and playing frequently.

Towlie

(5,571 posts)
77. The song only needs a minor alteration.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:58 AM
15 hrs ago

And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, next stop is in Iran
And it's five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates
Ain't no time to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna die

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,261 posts)
116. Brings back some good memories. Glad I got a chance to live through that.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:12 PM
11 hrs ago

What happened to all those kids??? Did half of them vote for Trump.

cornball 24

(1,577 posts)
118. Thank you so very much for sharing. I would love to get together a bunch of
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:39 PM
10 hrs ago

OTHER old ladies, gear up in hippie style and sing it loud and proud!

Fiendish Thingy

(22,784 posts)
4. Any sourced reports other than some guy's blog?
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:19 PM
Monday

I mean, I would think the MRFF could either confirm or refute these reports pretty easily.

markodochartaigh

(5,376 posts)
99. Here is Mikey Weinstein's link to the story
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:03 PM
12 hrs ago

MRFF Inundated with Complaints of Gleeful Commanders Telling Troops Iran War is “Part of God’s Divine Plan” to Usher in Return of Jesus https://share.google/mGzjznclAkbBJLb5c

newdeal2

(5,230 posts)
8. Great, militaries for all three belligerents are led by religious fanatics
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:21 PM
Monday

Which god will win?!

Deuxcents

(26,433 posts)
9. So...TSF has been anointed by Jesus and the Iran leaders have Allah on their side so this is a holy war?
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:22 PM
Monday

Is this Hegseth’s wet dream? How long are we gonna put up with this madness?

yellow dahlia

(5,515 posts)
10. This is Little Mikey Johnson's wet dream fantasy.
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:23 PM
Monday

He is dangerous in his position - I have been saying so ever since he was elected Speaker.

markodochartaigh

(5,376 posts)
11. I suppose to some people this sounds a bit odd.
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:25 PM
Monday

I would bet that about 20% of the US believes or could be easily persuaded that Trump was sent by God to bring on armageddon. Muslim prophecy about the 12th Imam, Imam Mahdi, is also an end times prophecy.

Attilatheblond

(8,657 posts)
26. Trump is losing supporters, even some magas, so he thinks this will shore up the fundie zealot end timers nuts
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:13 AM
Yesterday

All too likely and there are some of these fanatics in our military leadership, always has been.

Roc2020

(1,771 posts)
12. The Arrogance of religion.
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:26 PM
Monday

The gall to think somehow God is on mankind's timeline and not the other way around They could drop every nuke on the planet that won't speed up God's timing one ioda.

Jack Valentino

(4,841 posts)
13. TRUMP looks as much like 'the Antichrist' as much as any previous dictator---
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:27 PM
Monday

so I guess that means that our military will be destroyed by Christ in the Middle East ??

(THAT was the actual prediction in the Bible for the anti-christ's army which would invade the middle east
just prior to 'the return of Christ'---
seems like these people have never actually read the Bible they claim to follow---
or they are out-right LYING about what it says, if they DO have any idea...)




(I was raised on this stuff, and studied it in adult-hood---
not saying that I believe it now, but these people are completely confused
about what it said!)

Jack Valentino

(4,841 posts)
21. Nowhere in the Bible did it say that the supposed anti-christ was "smart"......
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:40 PM
Monday

but it did imply that he had some sort of 'charisma',
which in Trump's case I have never been able to recognize,
but then I'm not a MAGAt....





(Also the Anti-christ was supposed to be a human being---
so even a 'low-level demon' would have ranked above him!!)

Jack Valentino

(4,841 posts)
24. I haven't read it in a long time either---- but I have 'very sinfully' asked A.I. to
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:49 PM
Monday

recollect some key verses for me!



B.See

(8,216 posts)
46. I still don't understand how MAGAS figure
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:08 AM
23 hrs ago

that following their antiChrist into Armageddon is somehow going to get them thru the gates of Heaven.

I'd think they'd be in for one rude awakening.

ancianita

(43,241 posts)
141. They don't figure because they don't read what Jesus said about the last days. These ain't the last days.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 07:41 PM
6 hrs ago

Trump and Hegseth are all in for this BS.

wnylib

(25,621 posts)
161. I have a neighbor who hates Trump because she believes that he is the anti Christ.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:15 PM
4 hrs ago

Makes no sense, as you point out, since fundies like her believe that the actions of the anti Christ will bring on the return of Jesus.

I made the mistake of trying to speak rationally to her about it. I pointed out all the predictions about end times that have never come true, but she thinks they all got it wrong and she has it right.

I tried telling her that even the church I grew up in (Lutheran) taught us not to try to interpret the book of Revelation as a prediction for modern times because it was written for people who lived 2000 years ago and referred to the Roman Empire.

She accused me of blasphemy for disregarding a sacred book.

I gave up. She's a hopeless case.










dalton99a

(93,470 posts)
15. How will Jesus communicate with the millions of followers? By Instagram, WhatsApp, email, text?
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:30 PM
Monday

When will they know to look up?

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,364 posts)
51. He will send
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:25 AM
22 hrs ago

Birds to poop on thier shirts so they will look up. People tend to look up when something wet from the sky lands on them. Be it a few drops of rain or birdshit on thier sweater.

eppur_se_muova

(41,620 posts)
59. "A figure which looks like Jesus Christ" ??? I thought it looked like a big check mark ! nt
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:09 AM
17 hrs ago

3catwoman3

(29,173 posts)
120. Why not eat it? Aren't the wine and wafers passed out at communion...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:59 PM
10 hrs ago

...supposed to become the actual blood and body of Christ via transubstantiation?

usonian

(24,619 posts)
18. Donald the Lion Farted will lead the crusade.
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:34 PM
Monday


Real quote:


God has a hard-on for marines because we kill everything we see!
He plays His games, we play ours!
To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls!

milestogo

(22,943 posts)
19. It takes absolutely monstrous arrogance to believe that your military actions influence God.
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:38 PM
Monday

(Unless you're trying to convince God to send you straight to the hottest place in all of hell.)

Mister Ed

(6,902 posts)
22. Because the Almighty, though almighty, is still not mighty enough to start a Mideast clusterfuck by Himself.
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 11:41 PM
Monday

Nope, can't manage to swing it. He needs mortals to do it for Him.

No proponent of this "End Times" stuff has ever been able to explain that to me.

BurnDoubt

(1,611 posts)
25. They should all be removed from command and tried for Traitorous Seditious Conspiracy.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:07 AM
Yesterday

In reality, if they can turn us into a (small “c”) "christian Dominion", they’ll be happy enough.
A slow-roll coup is still a coup. And they are guilty.

ancianita

(43,241 posts)
153. Me, I'm all in for Jack Smith as AG. Best and most experienced, and knows everything
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:33 PM
6 hrs ago

Another Jackalope

(161 posts)
31. Judaism, Islam and Christianity - a three cornered Abrahamic death match...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:39 AM
Yesterday

Which will be the Last Religion Standing, which leader will return?
Jesus? Moses? Mohammed?

The Rapture just got a lot more complicated.

The setup is horrifying - each side believes "Gott mit uns," and none will back down until they are proven correct.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,909 posts)
134. I agree, but when you have people who literally worship the concept...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 06:23 PM
8 hrs ago

That kind of makes it a religion, even if it does not pertain to a divine power other than the 'power' of the green paper.

Which is hysterical to me as that power exits solely because we say it exists.

We are held hostage by our own delusion.

Very funny.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,364 posts)
50. What if Sekhmet returns
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:19 AM
22 hrs ago

Nobody would expect her.

I would be there for the magas getting eaten like cheese puffs. Dragging every narcissist and psychopath and eating them all, then she’d have a hellova reckoning twords the Republican Party. Sekhmet supposedly returns in zep tepi. To bring back Ma’at the balance of all and of all things good. Sekhmet will excise the criminals like cancerous boils infesting our government and throw them into the sun.

ancianita

(43,241 posts)
146. The word "rapture" is nowhere in the Bible.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:16 PM
6 hrs ago

It's a misunderstanding of scripture, mostly by Protestant denominations, claiming these passages refer to the single, public event of the Second Coming of Jesus to rule on Earth.

The only thing Bible readers need know is what Jesus (who calls himself the Son of Man) says about end times in Matthew 24:3–36


" ... 3 As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

4 And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. 5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not be alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are but the beginning of the birth pains.
9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. 10 And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. 12 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. ... 23 Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe it.
24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
25 See, I have told you beforehand. 26 So, if they say to you, ‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out. If they say, ‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.

The Coming of the Son of Man
29 “Immediately after othe tribulation of those days pthe sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

The Lesson of the Fig Tree
32 “From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates.
34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.
35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but fmy words will not pass away.

No One Knows That Day and Hour
36 “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only...."

Cha

(318,299 posts)
49. Worshippers of The Anti Christ..
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:44 AM
22 hrs ago

That also happens to be a PEDO, Rapist, Racist, Felon, and a Homicidal Maniac. Very Dark Ugly Evil Shit.

czarjak

(13,568 posts)
34. Being raised Evangelical Pentacostal, this would be laughable, IF...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:44 AM
Yesterday

IT wasn't real. You knew one of those Biblethumpers told him he could hasten The Second Coming. Just like Pence and Pompeo believed they were called for. We. Are. Doomed. Folks.

ancianita

(43,241 posts)
149. IT isn't real. No one can "hasten" anything, because no one knows when the Second Coming will come, not the angels,
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:22 PM
6 hrs ago

of heaven, not even the Son the Father first sent -- no one but God the Father knows. Humanity can't do one single thing to speed up the actions of the God of the Eternal Now.

Dr. T

(595 posts)
36. I guess that means this rapture thingy will be happening soon.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:48 AM
Yesterday

I've been meaning to do some serious grifting by starting a rapture insurance company. I'm surprised Don the Con hasn't thought of it.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,364 posts)
52. I really don't look forward
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:29 AM
22 hrs ago

Flying around in the air with a bunch of strangers naked. I will cling to my clothes like crazy if I ran into a rapture.

Puppyjive

(969 posts)
38. Michael Flynn
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:53 AM
Yesterday

He is the soldier who got all of this started. His religious beliefs were forced down their throats. He demanded respect and corerced each and every one of them into submission. They penetrated FOX noise and spread their propaganda. Most of my military friends are maga and I truly don't know why. Some of them were so bad, I ended the friendships.

ShazamIam

(3,088 posts)
41. Fozzledick, I remember reding the Illuminati books, and loved that phrase, "immanentize the Eschaton!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:34 AM
Yesterday

Our current government is made up of ignorant, delusional fools Putin and Xi are celebrating as we self-destruct.

LogDog75

(1,237 posts)
43. I have no doubt this is true
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:55 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:13 PM - Edit history (2)

The Christian Nationalists in the military were always pushing their religion wherever they could. When I was at the AF NCO Leadership Academy, one of the 20 students was very religious and wanted to start the day by having a class prayer. Our instructor put it to a vote of the class and said if one person voted no then we wouldn't do it. We, including me, overwhelmingly reject the suggestion. Small victory but it felt good.

One thing I've always objected to while in the AF was during ceremonies either a Chaplin or someone would lead those attending in a prayer. They'd say "Please Bow your heads" and 80% of the time would end it with "In Jesus' name, Amen." One could interrupt "Bow your heads" as an order and not doing so could, theoretically, get you in trouble. Also, there are people who are Jewish, Muslims, Buddhists, Wiccans, atheists, etc., who don't identify with Jesus and the person leading the prayer is forcing their religious belief on others. As an atheist, I never bowed my head but I sat quietly while the prayer was said.

IMO, any commander, officer, NCO, civilian, etc.who tries to invoke their religious belief on military members should never be in a position to lead or influence others.

3catwoman3

(29,173 posts)
123. Based on your post, I think you left out a word...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:04 PM
10 hrs ago

...and mean "should NOT be in a position to lead or influence others."

And I agree, completely.

LogDog75

(1,237 posts)
145. Thanks for catching that.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:15 PM
6 hrs ago

Instead of using the word "no" I edited my post and used the word "never."

RetiredParatrooper

(145 posts)
44. The only difference between these people and the Taliban/Al Qaeda...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:08 AM
Yesterday

...is the word they use for god.

johnnyfins

(3,699 posts)
91. I'm sure Fuckabee has a tent all set up
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:20 PM
14 hrs ago

Near Tel Megiddo, just waiting for the battle. :/

NOT! He doesn'tt believe any of it. He's just hangin out for the grift...

Aussie105

(7,795 posts)
56. Had to Google "Immanentize the Eschaton" for meaning.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:47 AM
21 hrs ago

So the message is that this is God's divine will, Armageddon, the imminent return of JC?

My understanding of US style military religion must be way off.

Seriously, do some people really wish for the End of Days, the rapture, the 'JC comes down to Earth' thing?

Evil in the name of religion is still evil, even more so.

Kaleva

(40,313 posts)
69. Could be a made up story. Just as dangerous.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:32 AM
16 hrs ago

Would show that people are easily deceived by articles they want to believe to be true even if not.

Kaleva

(40,313 posts)
104. Do you have a link to where they confirm this?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:15 PM
12 hrs ago

Edit: Another never provided a link in their reply to my post.

markodochartaigh

(5,376 posts)
100. Here is the link to Mikey Weinstein's story
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:04 PM
12 hrs ago

MRFF Inundated with Complaints of Gleeful Commanders Telling Troops Iran War is “Part of God’s Divine Plan” to Usher in Return of Jesus https://share.google/mGzjznclAkbBJLb5c

dalton99a

(93,470 posts)
68. Unlikely, according to Bible scholars in Tennessee. But he is probably partial to tobacco
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:31 AM
16 hrs ago

maxrandb

(17,375 posts)
126. And for God's sake, wear clean underwear!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:30 PM
10 hrs ago

That's what my mom always said. Whether a car wreck, or the second coming, you don't want to be caught with dirty underwear.

What would the neighbors think?

LogDog75

(1,237 posts)
148. With Charmin Ultra Soft, Scott Comfort Plus, or Angel Soft for the Bible humper-thrumpers?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:20 PM
6 hrs ago

Ilsa

(64,197 posts)
130. A few loaves & fishes will last however long he stays, but get your
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:41 PM
9 hrs ago

own wine. There's no guarantee he can turn processed city water into booze. No bacon or ham, no dairy mixed with meat (he's Jewish).

ZDU

(1,182 posts)
64. FFRF.org
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:12 AM
16 hrs ago

Freedom From Religion Foundation

So many believers are evil people... sick and evil

Ray Bruns

(6,193 posts)
66. I predict that when Jesus doesn't show up, a lot of people are going to be sorely disappointed.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:25 AM
16 hrs ago

But, in true cult fashion, they will grab onto the next date.

LogDog75

(1,237 posts)
150. Doesn't matter, they're eaisly fooled into something else
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:22 PM
6 hrs ago

Mel Brook's History of the World Part 1 is an example of how gullible they are.

bluestarone

(21,973 posts)
72. Doesn't surpise me at all
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:37 AM
15 hrs ago

Our enemies finally discovered the weakness of our country. RELIGION!! We are in big trouble folks. If i remember, the civil war was pretty much fought for this very reason. Remember John Brown? He was a religious IDIOT!

hatrack

(64,682 posts)
73. What a crock of SHIT!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:39 AM
15 hrs ago

Wooba-gooba!!! Jeezus gonna turn on the Holy Hoover!!!

Give. Me. A. Fucking. Break.

bluestarone

(21,973 posts)
74. Nothing like telling a soldier he's (she's) dead before he (she) even leaves our country.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:40 AM
15 hrs ago

WOW!! just WOW!!

Clouds Passing

(7,762 posts)
81. Armageddon wouldn't happen unless there were people intentionally causing it.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:12 AM
15 hrs ago

IDIOTS. MORONS. BRAINWASHING THE TROOPS! What could go wrong

Hope22

(4,641 posts)
89. It wouldn't be the first time they used that line!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:47 AM
14 hrs ago

Did it come with a pocket full of pills? This is all so infuriating! Over and over again. Follow the rat trail and the likes of Bill Barr traced back to Epstein’s beginnings, was also in the cellar post Nixon with all of his crooked buddies. They have never stopped plotting against this country. So many years destroying the lives of Americans. It feels like a nightmare or living hell. The two are coming closer and closer together!

NNadir

(37,788 posts)
90. Ah...its like the days of my youth. A much loved aunt...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:03 PM
14 hrs ago

...was a Jehovah's Witness and every political event was a prelude to the end of the world and the return of Jesus and a Kingdom of "God."

I loved my Aunt a great deal, but the most interesting effect on my life was to lead me to atheism. When my father and she got into big religious arguments I realized they were working with different translations of the Bible, and thus the Bible had no meaning. One could make it say whatever one wished.

The world will end someday, oh course, but it's nit going to involve Jesus and the confusion between an orange pedophile and Jesus.

tazcat

(268 posts)
92. Why doesn't anybody talk about consequences for following ILLEGAL orders???
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:25 PM
14 hrs ago

I am ashamed of the Army I served in. During the first stolen term I prayed that the military wouldn't fall otherwise we'd be fcked.

OMGWTF

(5,071 posts)
93. FUCK RELIGION -- ALL OF THEM!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:32 PM
14 hrs ago

If you have a working conscience, you don't need any of this crap.

GreenWave

(12,527 posts)
94. They try to force the Apocalypse to placate the Christo-fascists who will themselves be destroyed.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:49 PM
13 hrs ago

HeartsCanHope

(1,618 posts)
96. My parents were evangelical. They did not believe in the Rapture or Armageddon.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:05 PM
13 hrs ago

Their church taught that Revelations is an allegory, not what is to come. In fact my parent's church taught

that what was in Revelations had already happened in Roman times. They did not elaborate much on

that theory, but that's what they said. All they taught about the end of the world was that we would meet

Jesus in the sky and go to Heaven. No big war or anything other than that.

So not all evangelical groups believe in Armageddon or the Rapture.

My husband, son, and I lived in Israel for a year and went to Tel Meggido, a ancient fortification in the northern

part of the Jezreel Valley. That was the first time anyone told me that Armageddon, (Tel Meggido,) was an actual place!

The tour guide told us that this was where the world was supposed to come to an end in a huge battle.

Being an Israeli Jew, he didn't seem too worried about Armageddon! He was much more interested in talking about

the archaeological history than the Bible. Being a fortification, Tel Meggido had an impressive water system so

that the people there could withstand a siege. It was a beautiful site, and I really enjoyed my tour.

Here's a link to Trip Advisor with photos:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g297758-d320072-Reviews-Megiddo_National_Park-Nazareth_Galilee_Region_Northern_District.html

I am more concerned about our troops not having their personal religious beliefs trampled on than some weird MAGA

Armaggedon conspiracy theory. Thanks for the article. Going to look up the MRFF and their findings.

greatauntoftriplets

(178,846 posts)
101. That's creepy as hell to this non-believer.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:08 PM
12 hrs ago

Presumably I'll escape the Rapture, but I hope that they don't bomb the bejesus out of this country for those of us who are left.

JohnnyRingo

(20,769 posts)
103. Though it's not surprising, I'm shocked! If that's possible
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:09 PM
12 hrs ago

How many in the upper echelons of power will buy into this "Onward Christian soldiers" nonsense?
God help us, so to speak.

valleyrogue

(2,662 posts)
106. Complete insanity.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:20 PM
12 hrs ago

It is a complete misreading of what is often called by theologians apocalyptic fiction, the Book of Revelation. This goes back to at least the 1800s with that Darby crap if not before.

It is a complete misinterpretation of a book that has been debated over whether to be included in the Bible for literally centuries.

liberalla

(11,000 posts)
107. I really despise mixing religion with military... same with with government!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:22 PM
12 hrs ago

It is honestly UNamerican to do so! Despite all their protests and reasoning!

Martin68

(27,486 posts)
109. That is some scary shit. Religious maniacs in charge of our military? What could go wrong?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:37 PM
11 hrs ago

BBbats

(301 posts)
114. I Know The US Air Force Is A Hotbed Of This Thinking.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:02 PM
11 hrs ago

I was never in but I have Inlaws & people I know who were Air Force lifers.
They all went full bore Christian Nationalist after being in for awhile.

LogDog75

(1,237 posts)
155. I served 28 years in the AF
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:41 PM
5 hrs ago

When these Christian Nationalists are pushing their beliefs in every aspect of your military work and personnel life the thing they hate is when you push back by either questioning the behavior or calling them out for what they're doing. They know most people are civil when religion comes into the workplace and won't say anything negatively against the Christian Nationalists. The rely on others silence to make it appear the people they're pushing their beliefs on accept it. The key is not to be afraid to stand up and challenge them. The thing I learned early in my career is knowing how far to take it. For me, that was questioning and challenging what they said and making them defend it. I've done that and at first, they'll try to defend themselves and when they fail they start calling themselves "victims" of anti-Christian bias.

I'd rather explain myself to my commander than to let them go unchallenged. Commanders aren't stupid and they can see through the Christian Nationalists fairly easy. Most people are fearful of retaliation if they challenge or don't agree with the Christian Nationalist commander but that fear is a two-way street. That commander has to be aware their commander(s) above them may not approve of what the commander is doing and they could be relieved of their command.


Miami Blue

(371 posts)
115. Yup, the chaotic Iran's Armageddon aka Operation Epstein Fury
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:03 PM
11 hrs ago

Is the creation of an immoral subhuman named
MAGA-PE-DO-DON

SAD

Americanme

(459 posts)
119. So, we have people in high positions who think they are fighting for their invisible friend?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:41 PM
10 hrs ago

Shouldn't they be fighting for the American people? All of the American people, even those who believe differently? I think those people should be removed from their positions, they are not sane enough for an important job like that.

3catwoman3

(29,173 posts)
124. This bullshit reinforces my thinking that rather than...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:13 PM
10 hrs ago

...this statement, "...but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States," we should have a religious test - no one but agnostics and atheists should be allowed to run for office.

Or some sort of provision to keep out the religious fanatics.

hermetic

(9,203 posts)
125. This is spelled out
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:18 PM
10 hrs ago

word for word, in chapter 25 of The Last Odyssey by James Rollins, written before 2020. I was just listening to it and was gob-smacked by the whole thing. WTAF??

LetMyPeopleVote

(178,272 posts)
127. It's all about the Apocalypse: Another disturbing reason behind the right wing's pro-Israel obsession
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:33 PM
10 hrs ago

As a Jew, it is common knowledge the support from the American religious right is due in some part due to a belief that the existence of Israel is essential for their belief in a second coming.



https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/apocalypse-another-disturbing-reason-behind-right-wings-pro-israel-obsession
Politics professor Elizabeth Oldmixon explained in an interview with Vox the strange thread of Christianity that fosters an apocalyptic vision the inspires much of the right-wing support for Israel.

�These are the folks who believe that there will be a millennium in the future, a golden age, where Christ reigns on Earth, [and] they believe that before Christ will return, there will be a tribulation where Christ defeats evil,� she said. �There will be natural disasters and wars, and perhaps an Antichrist, as the book of Revelations notes. Then at the end of that period, the people of the Mosaic covenant, including the Jews, will convert. Then after their conversion, the great millennium starts.�

She continued: �You have this group of people looking around for signs of the end time, and in the 20th century when Israel was founded, this was seen as a major sign. This was electrifying for that community because the gathering of all the Jews in exile to the Holy Land is a prerequisite for all of these events unfolding. So for the subset of evangelicals in the 20th century, support for Israel became a really, really important political position.�

And as evangelical Christianity grew into a central part of the GOP�s coalition, pro-Israel policies became cemented in the party�s ideology.

The alliance between the evangelicals and pro-Israeli Jews, though, is a peculiar partnership. The Christians enter into the bargain with the assumption that, when they reach their goal of the apocalypse, any Jews will either become Christians or go to hell. But their pro-Israel allies don�t seem to mind this much, perhaps because they don�t believe this version of the apocalypse will ever actually come to be � and as long as it is just a fantasy, their interests and those of evangelicals remain aligned.

For example, the US embassy in Israel by trump to appease these nut cases. This story may be crazy but the nut cases who want an apocalypse worry me

Ilsa

(64,197 posts)
128. Maybe aliens will cosplay "angels" and take these idiots
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:33 PM
10 hrs ago

away from Earth so the rest of us can try to manage the planet properly.

Response to Fozzledick (Original post)

Martin Eden

(15,524 posts)
139. If Jesus returns to earth, will he smile favorably upon
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 07:34 PM
7 hrs ago

Those who bombed a girl's school into rubble and corpses?

Beartracks

(14,525 posts)
159. So these mortal fools think THEY can initiate Armageddon?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:49 PM
4 hrs ago

Jesus will come back on His own terms, at a time of His choosing. Hey, Christian extremists: you know not the day nor the hour, even if you think you just have to stage all the props and set dressing for it. You are not Jesus' stage manager. You may as well be trying to mix magic ingredients in a bubbling cauldron in the right order and chanting spells to produce the results you desire -- a decidedly non-Christian way to do anything.

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