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riversedge

(80,132 posts)
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 12:07 PM Friday

A man was harassing a woman in the elevator. See what she did.♥️

This creep might think twice before he harasses another woman!!--maybe!!

A man was harassing a woman in the elevator. See what she did.♥️


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A man was harassing a woman in the elevator. See what she did.♥️ (Original Post) riversedge Friday OP
Good on her! 3catwoman3 Friday #1
Think? BidenRocks Friday #52
Sadly true. niyad Friday #96
Well, yes, there is that. 3catwoman3 Friday #97
It's all bdamomma Friday #165
life can be challenging when you think with your dick. and so many of them do nt orleans Friday #167
I had a biology professor in college that said something like that. WinstonSmith4740 Yesterday #190
She beat the crap out of him !!!!!!! Yahooooo Trueblue1968 23 hrs ago #191
Good LetMyPeopleVote Friday #2
Sorry, but from a legal standpoint, that's got to be excessive use of force. PeaceWave Friday #3
Nah...and he won't report it anyhow. MineralMan Friday #7
He was immobilized after the kick to his crotch. The knee to his head was overkill. PeaceWave Friday #9
How was she to know that? I would have been scared to death that he would attack again in that closed space. AnotherMother4Peace Friday #15
He never raised his head again after the kick to the crotch. He clearly was no longer a threat. PeaceWave Friday #32
What leads you to assert a momentarily lowered head removes all threat? Torchlight Friday #34
Are you really going to ask a sexual assault victim BidenRocks Friday #60
I included an excerpt from the post I responded to Torchlight Friday #61
Perhaps quotation marks might have avoided confusion. I knew niyad Friday #92
Bet you that those who are trying to give the assaulter protection are not female. efhmc Friday #102
Definitely. MorbidButterflyTat Friday #115
You underestimate the danger she was in ninjanurse Friday #133
Now is that clearly no longer a threat in your eyes or hers? usedtobedemgurl 14 hrs ago #214
Same as emptying a magazine RoseTrellis 15 hrs ago #205
Shooting someone is a bit more damaging than a groin kick Attilatheblond 15 hrs ago #207
Don't think he'll be pressing charges, but if he does, my money is on her. Joinfortmill Friday #17
Maybe a little overkill is what he needed. GaYellowDawg Friday #18
IMO if she stopped short of debilitating him until the doors opened, this story would have a different ending. Hope22 13 hrs ago #220
I am guessing that it must be difficult to be a woman within your circle of niyad Friday #27
Absolutely! SheltieLover Friday #49
What would Krusty Gnome have done?? BattleRow Friday #66
Pulled out her gun? niyad Friday #98
What man would touch Kristie Gnome? maxrandb Friday #124
Well, there is at least one. Wednesdays Friday #131
We can't count her plastic surgeon. :-) nt spooky3 Friday #175
By all reports: Corey Lewandowski ShazzieB Yesterday #179
I hear she has had him pegged from the very beginning. MineralMan 11 hrs ago #223
Nominated for best reply of the century. Maybe Ilsa Friday #71
I am deeply honoured, thank you. My first reaction was unprintable. niyad Friday #87
+1 leftstreet Friday #108
+2 Permanut Friday #118
Great response niyad Brenda Friday #138
Thank you. It took a bit to write calmly! niyad Friday #140
It's been sad to see apologists here for decades. Brenda Friday #142
I am absolutely not surprised, coming from that one Skittles Yesterday #181
So disappointingly true. niyad Yesterday #185
Bravo! BlueSpot Yesterday #182
Thank you. niyad Yesterday #186
The Asshole was groping a woman in an elevator. MineralMan Friday #69
I agree liberalgunwilltravel Friday #95
Some people respond as if it's not the real world people live in. MineralMan Friday #101
Thank you for mentioning training in self defense oberle Friday #169
She made it quite clear after the 1st kacekwl Friday #80
Nobody is immobilized by one woman's kick to the groin synni Friday #88
No it wasn't and her defense was exactly as women are trained to do when being assaulted ms liberty Friday #120
Not from my viewpoint Sanity Claws Friday #10
The legal standard for self-defense allows individuals to use "reasonable, proportional force." PeaceWave Friday #14
You wholly ignore 'Reasonable Fear' Torchlight Friday #20
The fact that she was trapped & couldn't escape changed the situation, IMO. CrispyQ Friday #29
....... bluestarone Friday #38
And she reasoned that he needed a little more reason not to re-attack. MineralMan Friday #74
Your concern for the sexual predator is noted. chia Friday #119
if a guy touches me uninvited Skittles Yesterday #183
Sorry, he had ample opportunity to act in an adult and civil manner Torchlight Friday #11
He put hands on her mcar Friday #22
He wasn't going to stop The Blue Flower Friday #26
That's right mcar Friday #160
He put his hands on her TWICE Seinan Sensei Friday #45
She had every reason to believe he wouldn't stop mcar Friday #161
Is there a legal limit on beating a potential rapist to the floor? I saw no blood, body parts were still attached irisblue Friday #23
Even if in a place with a "duty to flee" IbogaProject Friday #25
Not excessive at all Soul_of_Wit Friday #30
If that was done to my Daughter or my Wife Seinan Sensei Friday #50
Nope. She's got it on video. He was warned. thought crime Friday #33
LOL don't you ever watch scary movies? leftstreet Friday #40
Yeah. You're right. Too bad she wasn't wearing a stiletto, right? PeaceWave Friday #43
Sorry. Your post is just so tone deaf leftstreet Friday #48
Self-defense, not aggression. niyad Friday #51
This is the problem. Self defense isn't a free pass for unlimited aggression. PeaceWave Friday #57
What then is the precise point at which defense ends and aggression begins? Torchlight Friday #59
see post 27 niyad Friday #82
It's not a free pass for anything. Aristus Friday #93
Unlimited aggression? MontanaMama Friday #99
The problem is MorbidButterflyTat Friday #117
Unlimited aggression would have been empting a full magazine on his self entitled ass. Attilatheblond 14 hrs ago #212
Ah, correct! leftstreet Friday #58
And I am so FUCKING PISSED at the misogynistic, patriarchal BS niyad Friday #109
Misogyny is Patriarchy's oxygen leftstreet Friday #110
Absolutely! SheltieLover Friday #67
Stiletto to the eyes face would be an effective response. irisblue Friday #84
There was a reason I used to wear 4-inch heels when I was in public. niyad Friday #125
Stick him with a Hat Pin! BidenRocks Friday #152
Very true. I don't wear hats, since my sunglasses are usually there if I niyad Friday #156
Somehow I think that kick to the balls Hope22 15 hrs ago #208
There isn't a jury on this planet that would convict her. cloudbase Friday #42
He was lucky she didn't pull out a pistol. Nt spooky3 Friday #70
Sadly, you are overly optimistic about juries. I have seen too many niyad Friday #126
Indeed. Some of the posts beggar belief. cloudbase Friday #127
Sadly true! niyad Friday #129
It absolutely is not obamanut2012 Friday #53
If she were a man... Dear_Prudence Friday #54
Killing him would have been excessive use of force Random Boomer Friday #56
And I hope she reported him to the police. Nt spooky3 Friday #72
He assaulted her, she moved away, he assaulted her again Justice 23 hrs ago #192
He put his hands on her. She had no idea what was next. Irish_Dem Friday #62
What legal standpoint? fujiyamasan Friday #65
Thank you for pointing that out. niyad Friday #128
Not a problem fujiyamasan Friday #145
I heard that some Japanese rail lines BidenRocks Friday #157
While that is helpful to a degree, it does not address the problem niyad 18 hrs ago #197
This would be a good training video ! thought crime Friday #171
She was trapped in a box with a man who assaulted her. LuckyCharms Friday #68
"If she had killed him for it, she would have been justified." - Sorry, but no, she would not have been justified. PeaceWave Friday #75
You're very wrong. LuckyCharms Friday #77
No. I'm right and no amount of being upset at me (for raising the point) or the legal system (for being what it is)... PeaceWave Friday #86
I think you're confusing rejections of your assertions with "being upset" Torchlight Friday #90
Snicker Brenda Friday #139
Oh, I'm not upset at all. LuckyCharms Friday #100
She turned and pushed a button BidenRocks Friday #158
See post 27. Keep digging that hole, dear heart. It is such a good look for you. niyad Friday #130
Damn straight niyad. MontanaMama 14 hrs ago #213
I am angry, and disgusted. niyad 14 hrs ago #215
As we should be. MontanaMama 14 hrs ago #216
EXACTLY!!! niyad 13 hrs ago #221
If you are in that situation, you have every reason to believe someone is going to try and rape you. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #189
She was always at risk of him strangling her. Taller/ heavier Hope22 13 hrs ago #218
"Excessive" would have been another two or three kicks to his nuts. GoCubsGo Friday #76
Nope. MontanaMama Friday #91
+1 for the blame comment. - nt CrispyQ Friday #159
She should've shouted "but the DOW is over fifty thousand" Shambala Friday #114
Snicker niyad Friday #132
Public Service Notice ninjanurse Friday #134
Not sure about this because she would surely have been in fear of her life. He assaulted her by PatrickforB Friday #154
Well, if that had gone to trial and she was in the dock on assault charges, and I were on the jury... Jedi Guy Friday #178
I don't think so. A man is bigger and stronger than a woman, so she would be justified in fearing that if she didn't tblue37 Yesterday #184
A women who was assaulted in a confined space she cannot readily retreat from can/should use all the force she can Attilatheblond 15 hrs ago #206
Golly, maybe if he had smiled more she wouldn't have felt the need to fiercely defend herself until she could escape Attilatheblond 15 hrs ago #210
Really? She was still stuck in there with him LearnedHand 9 hrs ago #227
Hope she left some lasting damage dalton99a Friday #4
And That's How You Do It! MineralMan Friday #5
She really dealt with that assaulter but hope she also called security and police to protect other less capable women. MLAA Friday #6
The fact that we are seeing the video... Soul_of_Wit Friday #36
I'm pretty sure a lot of elevators have security cameras in them. MineralMan Friday #78
I assumed it was security video Soul_of_Wit 15 hrs ago #209
Yes. They only look at them if there is an incident. MineralMan 14 hrs ago #211
That was the perfect place to put my last heart. 1WorldHope Friday #8
K&R! Torchlight Friday #12
Good for her! SheltieLover Friday #13
Whoa, don't know if this is real, but I'm gonna use her moves! Joinfortmill Friday #16
He (and Trump) need a dictionary that explain what "No!" means. Ping Tung Friday #19
From 2016, apparently woman is a Beijing TV host and actress. betsuni Friday #21
Thank you for this. I thought it looked a bit familiar. Still relevant. niyad Friday #135
My first thought was AI slop. Thanks for the post. Monsieur_Grumpe 19 hrs ago #196
I wish more women/girls had more situational awareness. irisblue Friday #24
A friend asked me once why I do not use headphones when I am niyad Friday #39
Holy shit that was pretty badass! fujiyamasan Friday #28
Bravo! You go, girl! Vinca Friday #31
BRAVA!!! niyad Friday #37
I do not know whether this was staged (as I remember a similar video niyad Friday #35
Excessive force, Maj. Dude Friday #41
Well done! UpInArms Friday #44
This seems staged. However, IF this video teaches or inspires a woman to: flvegan Friday #46
What more do we know about this? I think it looks like... QueerDuck Friday #47
There is a (possibly apocryphal) story from many years ago in the London tube dickthegrouch Friday #55
She was in danger with no ability to flee until the door opened Ritabert Friday #63
And THAT, my dears, is how it is DONE!!!!! hamsterjill Friday #64
I celebrate her quick reactions--and good aim! hlthe2b Friday #73
Good for her. He has no business putting hands on her. She did excellent. Don't minimize. Srkdqltr Friday #79
Possibly fake video Tasmanian Devil Friday #81
Nope. That is a camera mounted in the ceiling of the elevator car. MineralMan Friday #104
well, i guess i could smile at the camera next time i'm in an elevator -- but i don't think it'll show up very good orleans Friday #168
Looks fake to me. There's a lot of this stuff getting posted in the "reels" Liberal In Texas Friday #107
So.... MorbidButterflyTat Friday #113
LOL! ShazzieB Yesterday #180
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Friday #116
Wut? Brenda Friday #147
And the only rec for this post calling it AI slop is Brenda Friday #143
Please ... Tasmanian Devil Friday #153
This looks so fake Chicagogrl1 Friday #83
It's fake. They're both amateur actors. Made to be click-bait and passed all over social media. Liberal In Texas Friday #149
Fake or not, if only something like that had happened to a convicted 34-count... the nelm Friday #170
Staged or not, it shows women a course of action in such a situation. niyad 10 hrs ago #225
The "well actually" crowd is in the building mcar 8 hrs ago #228
Yes, but this is about women protecting themselves. The very idea niyad 7 hrs ago #229
Yes, they have to be totally aware of what they are doing mcar 6 hrs ago #230
ggrrrrrrr niyad 5 hrs ago #231
I can't believe that the guy thought that would work. mjvpi Friday #85
He got what's coming to him. bluescribbler Friday #89
She did a fine job. Swede Friday #94
should have kicked him once more when he was down moonshinegnomie Friday #103
It looks rehearsed. Omnipresent Friday #105
"She allowed him...." MorbidButterflyTat Friday #111
I never suggested she put herself in a corner. Omnipresent 22 hrs ago #194
And if he came at her again when her back was against the wall, she could have been trapped. ShazzieB Friday #151
My point is that most people want to see who is lurking around behind them. Omnipresent 22 hrs ago #193
Convince me this isn't staged misanthrope Friday #106
Staged or scripted Tasmanian Devil Friday #112
I don't care if it's staged or not. Dem_in_Nebr. Friday #121
Yeah, even if it was staged or faked, I think it was informative. ShazzieB Yesterday #187
And THAT is how it's done. Javaman Friday #122
If i am alone on an elevator and a MineralMan Friday #123
Used to be a tip of the Fedora. BidenRocks Friday #173
Well, don't expect a tip of the MAGA cap. MineralMan 17 hrs ago #200
I've watched the video a couple of times and IMO no jury would convict her LogDog75 Friday #136
FAFO Timewas Friday #137
I also agree that no jury would convict her. HeartsCanHope Friday #141
She was in an enclosed space with someone making unwanted advances, with no way to know how far he was going DFW Friday #146
Right on. Tactical Peek Friday #144
Not been Rebl2 Friday #148
Same here. And I did not get on an elevator if there was a lone man there. niyad Friday #150
Think back to 2016 canetoad Friday #155
That's about how old this staged video is. Hassin Bin Sober Friday #162
Really? canetoad Friday #163
I'll have to remember that move! ShazzieB Yesterday #188
Can you just imagine the hysteria had she done so? niyad 14 hrs ago #217
Women bdamomma Friday #164
And boy will it be tough in our new burkas! Nt Hope22 13 hrs ago #219
Unless bdamomma 10 hrs ago #224
I look good in red.. Hope22 10 hrs ago #226
If real, she did exactly the right thing. chowmama Friday #166
'Bought 9-10 years ago, my husband broke up a dude from hitting the dude's girlfriend. chouchou Friday #172
She should have nailed him even more. Make him a eunuch. BigmanPigman Friday #174
Good for her! ABC123Easy Friday #176
This message was self-deleted by its author LudwigPastorius Friday #177
excellent job. pansypoo53219 21 hrs ago #195
Busting his nuts! Smart move. ProudMNDemocrat 18 hrs ago #198
Violence is good as long as we agree with the outcome AZLD4Candidate 18 hrs ago #199
Good for Her!! She walloped an Epstein Jr. !! It appears she is trained blue-wave 17 hrs ago #201
ouch... myohmy2 17 hrs ago #202
Just make sure you hurt them bad enough they can't follow you. Linda ladeewolf 16 hrs ago #203
That looked super choreographed LoveSucky 16 hrs ago #204
Message auto-removed Name removed 13 hrs ago #222

3catwoman3

(28,989 posts)
1. Good on her!
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 12:11 PM
Friday

Maybe he'll think twice before trying that crap again.

Why do men (obviously not all) think it is OK to do this?

3catwoman3

(28,989 posts)
97. Well, yes, there is that.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:42 PM
Friday

I sometimes wonder if there was not some behavioral control gene that was on the part of the Y chromosome that looks like it broke off and that why the chromosome is smaller. The male of the species seems, generally speaking, to get into so much more trouble than women.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,424 posts)
190. I had a biology professor in college that said something like that.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:59 AM
Yesterday

He thought women were biologically stronger than men...not physically, biologically. For example, women live longer, and are less susceptible to disease. Genetic issues that take 2 recessive genes in a woman only take one in a man...that kind of thing. He felt there was an immunity factor missing from the Y chromosome, and that was basically his theory...it's smaller and looks like an X chromosome with a leg missing.
And as I tell my students, the older I get, the more I believe it. There's just something missing there!

Torchlight

(6,569 posts)
34. What leads you to assert a momentarily lowered head removes all threat?
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:09 PM
Friday
He never raised his head again after the kick to the crotch. He clearly was no longer a threat.

BidenRocks

(2,989 posts)
60. Are you really going to ask a sexual assault victim
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:38 PM
Friday

to show more restraint than ICE?

This threat is over when he is dead!

Sorry, he could get up looking to kill.

Victims are just that. If they lose their mind, fine.

They don't operate under ANY ROE.

If only E. Jean did that to chump!

niyad

(130,811 posts)
92. Perhaps quotation marks might have avoided confusion. I knew
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:38 PM
Friday

that you were quoting because I am still seething about the entire post from which you quoted.

ninjanurse

(126 posts)
133. You underestimate the danger she was in
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:17 PM
Friday

She still had to get out of that elevator and now he’s real mad. But since you’ll never have to face a threat like that you can keep explaining why she didn’t do it right.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,955 posts)
214. Now is that clearly no longer a threat in your eyes or hers?
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:47 PM
14 hrs ago

I am a rape survivor and have PTSD. Are you saying that if I kept hitting a man, even if I was in the middle of a PTSD episode, I should find a way to stop myself when therapists cannot even help me? And take it from a woman, a strange man is always a threat no matter how disabled he may seem. I have heard cops talk about perps on drugs and hos they just keep coming. You are seriously saying she should have risked her life just because you say so? You want that woman to get hurt? Because it may be too late for her once he rises up.

RoseTrellis

(137 posts)
205. Same as emptying a magazine
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 11:32 AM
15 hrs ago

That’s the same rationale cops use when they shoot people multiple times and empty their magazines into them….
🙄

Attilatheblond

(8,555 posts)
207. Shooting someone is a bit more damaging than a groin kick
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 11:46 AM
15 hrs ago

Last edited Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:18 PM - Edit history (1)

Emptying a magazine is a bit different that punching until the opportunity to escape becomes available.

Men are generally stronger than most women. Pissed off men are especially dangerous to women. In a confined space with not immediate escape? That woman was in more danger after the groin kick. Kudos to whoever coached her to keep swinging. For all she knew she was fighting for her life, a concept few men seem to understand about how dangerous other men can be to women who refuse their attentions.

edited due to not hitting the n key in the word men

Hope22

(4,582 posts)
220. IMO if she stopped short of debilitating him until the doors opened, this story would have a different ending.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:58 PM
13 hrs ago

He needed to stay the F down or face more of the same! I’m thankful that she was prepared. For all we know this was not her first assault!

niyad

(130,811 posts)
27. I am guessing that it must be difficult to be a woman within your circle of
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:00 PM
Friday

acquaintance, given your posted strict and narrow "legal"standards of what a woman is alllowed to do when she is being assaulted. Your posted repeated lack of care and concern for the safety and well-being of the intended victim in that video are duly noted, as is your clearly-evidenced concern for the assaulter. In case you did not notice, even after she struck him, he kept coming at her. She did not know if he was armed, what he was capable of doing, what he intended.

GOOD FOR HER!!! Since our laws are so fucking patriarchal, and rapists and rape protectors are now blatantly in charge, it seems like the only way we can protect ourselves is to be able to beat the crap out of anyone intent on harm. Apologists be damned.

Ilsa

(64,078 posts)
71. Nominated for best reply of the century. Maybe
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:06 PM
Friday

someone will do better in the next 74 years, but I doubt it.

He didn't simply harass her, he assaulted her by trying to grab her breast.

I wish someone had shown "El Jefe" in the WH who was boss 60 years ago.

Brenda

(1,981 posts)
138. Great response niyad
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:27 PM
Friday

Although I wonder if this happened in the US? Doesn't matter, the woman's response was EXCELLENT!

But about those "apologists" ... there are quite a few around here.

niyad

(130,811 posts)
140. Thank you. It took a bit to write calmly!
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:34 PM
Friday

From several posts downthread, Beijing, I believe.

Yes, sad to see the apologists here.

MineralMan

(150,929 posts)
69. The Asshole was groping a woman in an elevator.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:03 PM
Friday

I don't much care if she gave him a little more to think about. She left unharmed. When you're being attacked by someone who is bigger and stronger than you are, take the extra step to give you more time to escape.

I'm not a fighter. However, my father gave me some advice when I was a teenager. He said, "If some stranger physically attacks you, assume he's trying to kill you. Immobilize and stop him as quickly and effectively as you can. Then get the hell away from him."

I don't know who taught you about situations like she was in. She did the right thing for her safety. He'll survive.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,139 posts)
95. I agree
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:41 PM
Friday

And if she had a firearm with a 10-shot capacity and shot him 10 times, when asked by police why she shot him 10 times, the correct answer is, "I only had 10 bullets."

The bottom line is, he started it. She finished it. And in finishing it the way she did, she may have prevented other women from the same type of attack.

MineralMan

(150,929 posts)
101. Some people respond as if it's not the real world people live in.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:49 PM
Friday

In the real world, some strange man physically groping you in an elevator is a very dangerous assault if you are a woman. You have no idea what his intentions might be. Women, in general, are at a physical disadvantage in situations like that. Fortunately, she has apparently had some training in self defense. She used it to prevent any further assault and then exited the elevator ASAP.

She immobilized him and went one step further to make sure he could not attack her again. Perfectly justified in the circumstances. She escapes unharmed and he gets an object lesson through learning that not all women are helpless and weak. Perhaps, as you suggest, he will learn from this. I doubt it, though. Instead, he'll probably use more immediate force the next time.

I'm surprised that anyone is attempting to blame her for her actions. Screw that!

oberle

(321 posts)
169. Thank you for mentioning training in self defense
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 09:21 PM
Friday

I urge all women of any age to take self defense classes, or better yet, martial arts. It gives you the skills and the confidence to take on anything that happens.

kacekwl

(9,013 posts)
80. She made it quite clear after the 1st
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:18 PM
Friday

assault so to try again the gloves come off and being in a closed space nothing is overkill until that door opens and you're gone.

synni

(721 posts)
88. Nobody is immobilized by one woman's kick to the groin
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:33 PM
Friday

Unless she is very physically fit and trained in martial arts, she is simply not capable of incapacitating a man with a single kick. The fact that he was still standing indicates that he was still a threat. The only way she would know that he was no longer a threat would be if he hit the floor. She left as soon as he did.

ms liberty

(11,089 posts)
120. No it wasn't and her defense was exactly as women are trained to do when being assaulted
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:58 PM
Friday

Smack him hard in the face, kick him in the crotch and a quick, sharp knee to the head.
You disable and injure the attacker as much as possible in order to give yourself a chance to escape.
That woman was being sexualky assaulted in a small enclosed space. There was no being nice. There was survival or assault. She did exactly what she needed to do.

Sanity Claws

(22,374 posts)
10. Not from my viewpoint
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 12:20 PM
Friday

She was still stuck in a closed space with him and had to disable him. She left as soon as the door opened.

Torchlight

(6,569 posts)
20. You wholly ignore 'Reasonable Fear'
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 12:39 PM
Friday

And that she had zero opportunity to retreat.

The legal standard for self-defense allows individuals to use "reasonable, proportional force."

CrispyQ

(40,837 posts)
29. The fact that she was trapped & couldn't escape changed the situation, IMO.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:04 PM
Friday

That's what I'd argue as an attorney, & as a juror, I'd buy it, even if the judge said not to. Just sayin'. It was clear what his intent was & that he wasn't going to take her NO.

MineralMan

(150,929 posts)
74. And she reasoned that he needed a little more reason not to re-attack.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:07 PM
Friday

You're sounding a little strange about this situation. Why do you hold that woman who got groped in an elevator to such a standard?

Skittles

(170,369 posts)
183. if a guy touches me uninvited
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:37 AM
Yesterday

ALL BETS ARE OFF

hell, I smashed a guys toes with my combat boot just for something he SAID to me

Torchlight

(6,569 posts)
11. Sorry, he had ample opportunity to act in an adult and civil manner
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 12:24 PM
Friday

Last edited Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:17 PM - Edit history (1)

Consequences are a tough thing for a lot of people to stand up to... he certainly couldn't.


Sorry, but from a legal standpoint, that's got to be excessive use of force.

The Blue Flower

(6,426 posts)
26. He wasn't going to stop
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 12:57 PM
Friday

He just wasn't going to get the point. Good for her. Leaving him incapacitated on the floor was her only recourse.

mcar

(45,840 posts)
161. She had every reason to believe he wouldn't stop
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 08:08 PM
Friday

She defended herself. The idea that she should have held back when he certainly wouldn't have is just bizarre.

irisblue

(37,137 posts)
23. Is there a legal limit on beating a potential rapist to the floor? I saw no blood, body parts were still attached
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 12:52 PM
Friday

Soul_of_Wit

(51 posts)
30. Not excessive at all
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:04 PM
Friday

He laid hands on her. They were in a confined space. If he was still capable of moving, then he deserved every blow. She retreated when she was able to do so. Defending oneself is a winner with juries almost every time.

leftstreet

(39,646 posts)
40. LOL don't you ever watch scary movies?
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:19 PM
Friday

Audiences will tell you how often they yell at the heroine on the screen,

"No, no, don't just hit him and run away! He'll get back up!! Finish the fucker off"


leftstreet

(39,646 posts)
48. Sorry. Your post is just so tone deaf
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:25 PM
Friday

Debating a responsible level of aggression from a woman trapped in an elevator with a man who's put his hands on her

I mean

Torchlight

(6,569 posts)
59. What then is the precise point at which defense ends and aggression begins?
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:38 PM
Friday

How is that defined, and does this apply to all circumstances or simply this one?




This is the problem. Self defense doesn't permit you to then become an aggressor.

Aristus

(71,922 posts)
93. It's not a free pass for anything.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:39 PM
Friday

But as long as a women is in an enclosed space with an aggressor, anything and everything is permissible for her to ensure her own safety. If a guy doesn't want to sustain massive bodily injury from a woman defending herself, he can make the rather easy choice to leave her alone, and not attack her.

I really thought it was less complicated than you are insisting on making it.

MontanaMama

(24,678 posts)
99. Unlimited aggression?
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:43 PM
Friday

She absolutely had to disable him to the point where he didn't come back at her. If he had been able to do that, she might be dead. But thanks for mansplaining how she should have gone easy on this degenerate. Good grief.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,331 posts)
117. The problem is
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:31 PM
Friday
male entitlement.

Women are not playthings for men to do with whatever they want.

If he had shown some basic decency and respect and kept his filthy hands to himself, he wouldn't have gotten his ass beat.

Simple.

Attilatheblond

(8,555 posts)
212. Unlimited aggression would have been empting a full magazine on his self entitled ass.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:36 PM
14 hrs ago

Since adrenaline is a helluva short term pain killer, he could have been momentarily stunned but come back at her in a rage before she could escape.

Women in this culture see how being 'feminine' and nurturing can be a ticket to the morgue when dealing with men who do not know how to respect others/

leftstreet

(39,646 posts)
58. Ah, correct!
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:38 PM
Friday

An important distinction, thank you.

Although clearly some people see aggression rather than self-defense and can instantly change the narrative.

(You're so sharp!)

niyad

(130,811 posts)
109. And I am so FUCKING PISSED at the misogynistic, patriarchal BS
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:03 PM
Friday

women have to contend with in defending ourselves in this culture of rapists, rapist protectors, and general woman-haters.

Tomorrow is V-Day, Ending Violence Against Women and Girls.One Billion Rising is a worldwide group trying to end this culture of woman-hating. One Billion stands for the ONE IN THREE FEMALES WORLDWIDE who will be the victim of sexual assault/violence. One female every two minutes is sexually assaulted in this country.

leftstreet

(39,646 posts)
110. Misogyny is Patriarchy's oxygen
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:09 PM
Friday

As you well know

Since so many people will keep breathing it without seeing it, your diligence and willingness to constantly expose it here is beyond valuable



niyad

(130,811 posts)
156. Very true. I don't wear hats, since my sunglasses are usually there if I
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 07:37 PM
Friday

am not actually wearing them. When Ii used to wear blazers, the hatpins were in the lapels!

We could talk about my purse!!!

Hope22

(4,582 posts)
208. Somehow I think that kick to the balls
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 11:49 AM
15 hrs ago

Packed a much bigger punch. While I don’t wish this woman had to suffer this. She is most certainly my hero. All young women should have training on this order so they will be safe at all ages.

niyad

(130,811 posts)
126. Sadly, you are overly optimistic about juries. I have seen too many
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:05 PM
Friday

cases where juries are patriarchal assholes, male and female. There are reasons so many women do not report assaults/rape., they know the horror they would be facing. Just look at some of the posts in this thread.

Dear_Prudence

(1,130 posts)
54. If she were a man...
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:33 PM
Friday

How would a man have reacted if another man stalked him, menaced him, and laid hands on him in an enclosed space? I believe the perp would have had a broken nose in addition to the injuries the woman inflicted. Walk a mile in HER shoes...

Random Boomer

(4,394 posts)
56. Killing him would have been excessive use of force
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:34 PM
Friday

Resoundingly disabling him (in the moment) was quite appropriate.

He approached her first and did not accept her rebuff. He then approached again and ESCALATED into assault by putting his hand on her in an enclosed space.

She neutralized him, but left him still alive. Sounds just about right to me.

Justice

(7,250 posts)
192. He assaulted her, she moved away, he assaulted her again
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 04:00 AM
23 hrs ago

She defended herself.

His actions were assaults, not approaches.

fujiyamasan

(1,454 posts)
65. What legal standpoint?
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:47 PM
Friday

Apparently this wasn’t even in the US.

This kind of weird shit could happen anywhere in the world to women. What I like is she didn’t stand around taking it.

fujiyamasan

(1,454 posts)
145. Not a problem
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:47 PM
Friday

I don’t know if this woman had any formal training but I think it’s smart for women to take self defense classes.

niyad

(130,811 posts)
197. While that is helpful to a degree, it does not address the problem
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 08:53 AM
18 hrs ago

of misogynistic cultures that give men permission/approval to assault women. Instead of being able to move freely in society, women are segregated, restricted, their movements curtailed.

LuckyCharms

(22,236 posts)
68. She was trapped in a box with a man who assaulted her.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:00 PM
Friday

If she had killed him for it, she would have been justified.

I've told my wife that if she is ever in a situation like that where she can't get away, her goal is not to hurt the perpetrator, her goal is to kill him. With that mindset, her goal is to fight like she is fighting for her life, and she is not to stop until the person is unconscious. If he dies during that process, so be it. You want her to stop her self-defense when she is unsure if he could reach into his waistband at pull out a gun?

Her goal is to eliminate the threat to her. How is that woman supposed to know that the man is not armed with a gun or a knife?

He's lucky she didn't kill him.

You are expecting her to make a split second decision not to try to kill him when she is literally trapped? Unable to run? No help at all possible? She presumably is not an armed officer of the law. She's a WOMAN TRAPPED IN A CLOSED BOX WITH A MAN WHO PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED HER.

Can you see a jury convicting her?

I can't.




PeaceWave

(2,886 posts)
75. "If she had killed him for it, she would have been justified." - Sorry, but no, she would not have been justified.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:07 PM
Friday

I get the passion around the subject. But, folks need to understand that there is such a thing as taking a response too far.

PeaceWave

(2,886 posts)
86. No. I'm right and no amount of being upset at me (for raising the point) or the legal system (for being what it is)...
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:30 PM
Friday

will change that fact. Nothing in this video warranted anyone taking anyone else's life. Now, how much physical harm short of death was warranted is subject to debate and is a roll of the dice that anyone put in a similar situation must make. The standard though - at least here in the U.S. - is that the forced used to defend yourself must be proportionate, as determined by a reasonable person.

Torchlight

(6,569 posts)
90. I think you're confusing rejections of your assertions with "being upset"
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:36 PM
Friday
No. I'm right and no amount of being upset at me...

LuckyCharms

(22,236 posts)
100. Oh, I'm not upset at all.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:44 PM
Friday

The goal is to eliminate a perceived threat.

The first and best option is to put distance between yourself and the threat.

That is not possible in an elevator, is it? Where are you going to run to in an elevator? To the other corner?

Are you going to scream for help in an elevator, when seconds matter?

How are you certain that a person who you are TRAPPED IN AN ELEVATOR WITH, WHO TRIED TO GRAB YOUR BREAST AND TOUCHED YOU TWICE, is not trying to kill you?

Even if this was staged, my point is that the woman had a split second to make a decision.

She stopped when she was able to escape. If the door was not able to be opened, she should have continued until he was dead, or old cold with certainty.

What if that elevator had another 40 floors to travel until the door was able to be opened? Still think she went too far?

niyad

(130,811 posts)
130. See post 27. Keep digging that hole, dear heart. It is such a good look for you.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:14 PM
Friday

For the sake of the female victim I hope you are never on a jury for any case involving assault, sexual assault, or rape.

MontanaMama

(24,678 posts)
216. As we should be.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:53 PM
14 hrs ago

I am encouraged by the pushback on this thread but the fact that pushback is even necessary is disturbing.

FascismIsDeath

(109 posts)
189. If you are in that situation, you have every reason to believe someone is going to try and rape you.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:05 AM
Yesterday

Enough fucking said. If she accidentally killed him, I believe she would still be within her rights to self defense.

Hope22

(4,582 posts)
218. She was always at risk of him strangling her. Taller/ heavier
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:51 PM
13 hrs ago

She had to lay him out or retaliation could have been fatal for her. From the looks she has had solid self defense instruction. This would not have been the outcome for many women / girls.

MontanaMama

(24,678 posts)
91. Nope.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:37 PM
Friday

If she hadn't disabled him, he wouldn't have stopped his assault and then where would she be? Regardless, she gets blamed for doing too much or not doing enough. He's fortunate to be alive.

ninjanurse

(126 posts)
134. Public Service Notice
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:21 PM
Friday

If you are ever attacked in an elevator and have to physically fight someone much stronger than yourself who has demonstrated an intention to harm you, do not worry that you might get in trouble for being too rough. Use the maximum force you are able to before running away. Like my Sensei said, it’s better to be judged by 12 than carried out by 6.

PatrickforB

(15,387 posts)
154. Not sure about this because she would surely have been in fear of her life. He assaulted her by
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 07:31 PM
Friday

putting his arm around her shoulder, and it was the second time he touched her without her permission. She's alone, she doesn't know him and he assaulted her. She defended herself appropriately because men tend to be stronger than women and she needed to disable him without permanently harming him, which two good kicks in the scrotum will do.

Jedi Guy

(3,451 posts)
178. Well, if that had gone to trial and she was in the dock on assault charges, and I were on the jury...
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 11:18 PM
Friday

I'd look at it like this. If he'd kept his hands to himself she wouldn't have kneed his testicles hard enough to introduce them to his diaphragm. I would vote to acquit, to put it bluntly. And I'd be willing to bet heavily I wouldn't be the only juror who had that outlook.

In another timeline he kept his hands to himself. You might say he didn't fuck around and thus didn't find out.

In our timeline, sadly, he evidently never learned not to touch people without their consent, which is a lesson most of us learn in early childhood. She simply delivered that lesson in a forceful manner. Pain can sometimes be a very effective teacher, so perhaps this young fellow has learned a valuable lesson, even if belatedly.

Furthermore, the young lady had no idea of his intention. Maybe he "only" intended to grope. Maybe he intended to do a hell of a lot worse. She had no way of knowing and, for her own safety, had to assume the worst possible outcome was on the table and act accordingly.

I get into elevators with women all the time in my office building. I don't put my hands on them and they don't hit me. Imagine that.

tblue37

(68,362 posts)
184. I don't think so. A man is bigger and stronger than a woman, so she would be justified in fearing that if she didn't
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:38 AM
Yesterday

incapacitate him he might seriously harm or even kill her.

Attilatheblond

(8,555 posts)
206. A women who was assaulted in a confined space she cannot readily retreat from can/should use all the force she can
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 11:39 AM
15 hrs ago

Surprise is generally the one tool we have to deal with an attacker who is likely much stronger. And if the surprise is not debilitating enough, it is likely she will be beaten to a pulp if he recovers too soon and she has not found an escape.

Attilatheblond

(8,555 posts)
210. Golly, maybe if he had smiled more she wouldn't have felt the need to fiercely defend herself until she could escape
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:01 PM
15 hrs ago

Go talk to a self defense coach who teaches women how to stay alive in today's culture.

LearnedHand

(5,310 posts)
227. Really? She was still stuck in there with him
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 05:38 PM
9 hrs ago

The man is the perp and you’re pointing out how the woman protected herself wrong?? Do you see the problem with that stance? This is not the post in which to express a goddam thing about whether she was too violent.

MLAA

(19,694 posts)
6. She really dealt with that assaulter but hope she also called security and police to protect other less capable women.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 12:16 PM
Friday

Soul_of_Wit

(51 posts)
36. The fact that we are seeing the video...
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:10 PM
Friday

...makes it likely that the incident was reported (or was seen live by security.)

Soul_of_Wit

(51 posts)
209. I assumed it was security video
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 11:57 AM
15 hrs ago

Not all security feeds are live-monitored. A lot of security video is never looked at. Some video is auto-deleted after a short period of time.

MineralMan

(150,929 posts)
211. Yes. They only look at them if there is an incident.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:35 PM
14 hrs ago

I don't know how often they over-write old video. Probably 24 -48 hours.

irisblue

(37,137 posts)
24. I wish more women/girls had more situational awareness.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 12:56 PM
Friday

From google

Situational awareness (SA) is the ability to perceive, understand, and predict environmental elements and events to make informed safety decisions. It involves monitoring surroundings to identify, analyze, and react to potential risks or hazards before they occur. Key components include perception (gathering data), comprehension (understanding meaning), and projection (anticipating future states).

niyad

(130,811 posts)
39. A friend asked me once why I do not use headphones when I am
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:14 PM
Friday

out and about. And I explained about SA. She had never heard of the concept. To my relief, she stopped using her headphones on her daily runs.

niyad

(130,811 posts)
35. I do not know whether this was staged (as I remember a similar video
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:09 PM
Friday

Last edited Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:22 PM - Edit history (1)

having been), or real, but fucking assaulters need to understand that it is just possible that their intended victim just might be capable of kicking the crap out of them.

AND WE SHOULD BE TEACHING ALL FEMALES FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD ON TO BE ABLE TO DO EXACTLY THAT. At least, until the woman-haters in charge go back to physically limiting girls and women, as they have done for centuries.

Maj. Dude

(41 posts)
41. Excessive force,
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:19 PM
Friday

Could be said/used if she had CCW Permit and fired at him while he was doubled over tending to his hurt (testicles) feelings.
And she got out of there limiting her time with the creep.
I'd buy her her favorite beverage and laugh with her if she felt so inclined after a situation like that.
It would be her choice of course, because that's the way I was raised.

flvegan

(66,032 posts)
46. This seems staged. However, IF this video teaches or inspires a woman to:
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:24 PM
Friday

1. be always aware
2. take up some form of defensive/offensive training, to then;
3. defend oneself by any means necessary, and;
4. finish your opponent and then escape as necessary

That said, if the video isn't/wasn't staged, that was quite the ass kicking. Flawless victory!

dickthegrouch

(4,413 posts)
55. There is a (possibly apocryphal) story from many years ago in the London tube
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:33 PM
Friday

Where a woman being assaulted in the crowded tube car, grabbed the man's hand, rapidly raised it high in the air and asked at the top of her lungs "To whom does this belong?"

Not possible in this situation, but a possibility for more public places. I am all for people de-escalating when they can, and defending themselves when they need to.

Srkdqltr

(9,578 posts)
79. Good for her. He has no business putting hands on her. She did excellent. Don't minimize.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:12 PM
Friday

Women need to know they should not put up with stuff like this.
Men should know there will be consequences.
None of this is cute or kidding. She did the absolutely right thing.

Tasmanian Devil

(89 posts)
81. Possibly fake video
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:24 PM
Friday

I am not an expert at fake videos, so I asked Gemini. You can obviously choose to believe or not, but remember just how much AI slop is taking over the Internet.

https://gemini.google.com

Any thoughts on if this video is faked?


And it responded that it was likely computer generated.

The video you're asking about is actually a high-quality **CGI (Computer-Generated Imagery) render**, not a real-life recording.

Here are the key reasons why it’s considered "faked" or, more accurately, digital art:

1. Visual "Perfection" : The lighting, shadows, and textures in the video are often slightly too smooth or consistent compared to real-world physics. Digital artists frequently use software like Unreal Engine 5 or Blender to create these hyper-realistic scenes, which can easily fool the eye on small smartphone screens.

2. Unnatural Camera Movement: If you look closely at the "handheld" camera shake, it often feels procedural—like a digital filter applied to a steady shot rather than the organic weight and momentum of a person holding a real camera.

3. Anomalies in Fine Detail: In these types of viral "is it real?" clips, you can often spot minor glitches (artifacts) where objects intersect, or where the reflections on surfaces don't perfectly match the surrounding environment.

4. The Source: This specific video has been widely circulated by accounts that specialize in showcasing "vibe" or "dreamcore" CGI environments. These artists create these short loops specifically to trigger a "liminal space" feeling or to test how realistic their rendering engines can get.

Verdict: It is a **digital creation**. While it's an impressive technical feat of 3D modeling and rendering, it does not exist in the physical world.

MineralMan

(150,929 posts)
104. Nope. That is a camera mounted in the ceiling of the elevator car.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:58 PM
Friday

Look up next time you're in an elevator in a public building. There's a security camera up there, and it records continuously.

Gemini is just a freaking AI talking machine. It actually knows nothing. Again, look up next time you're in an elevator. And smile, you're on video.

orleans

(36,768 posts)
168. well, i guess i could smile at the camera next time i'm in an elevator -- but i don't think it'll show up very good
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 09:16 PM
Friday

under my mask

(i always wear a mask in public indoor places)



Liberal In Texas

(16,121 posts)
107. Looks fake to me. There's a lot of this stuff getting posted in the "reels"
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:00 PM
Friday

or on TikTok. It's amateur TV production. By claiming it's real video they can get more clicks and more people passing it on. Like here.

Response to Tasmanian Devil (Reply #81)

Brenda

(1,981 posts)
147. Wut?
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:50 PM
Friday

Simply stirring up animus between genders?

You mean a video showing public assault of a woman by a man is just a political ploy? You do know that millions of women are sexually assaulted in every country every fucking day, right?

What do the primaries nine months from now have to do with the video being posted now?

Brenda

(1,981 posts)
143. And the only rec for this post calling it AI slop is
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:44 PM
Friday

the only one in this thread saying she is using excessive force.

In what country and by what legal standard?


Tasmanian Devil

(89 posts)
153. Please ...
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 07:27 PM
Friday

I'm not saying attacking women in elevators is ok or that women don't have every right to fight back! I just have a negative reaction to clickbait and manipulation. To me (and I think a few others on this thread), this video appears to be to be a poorly choreographed fight scene, badly rendered by AI.

My purpose in pointing this out is to just try and raise the skepticism level on DU a little bit. Fake memes and AI slop is not helping.

Liberal In Texas

(16,121 posts)
149. It's fake. They're both amateur actors. Made to be click-bait and passed all over social media.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:55 PM
Friday

Lots of this kind of thing popping up like in FB reels and TikTok.

the nelm

(255 posts)
170. Fake or not, if only something like that had happened to a convicted 34-count...
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 09:44 PM
Friday

felon a few times in his life he might have learned something. Then again, self-entitled brat that he is, likely not.

mcar

(45,840 posts)
228. The "well actually" crowd is in the building
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 06:29 PM
8 hrs ago

I don't give AF if it's staged - it's an excellent tutorial for women/girls who may find themselves in a similar dangerous situation.

Kind of like training videos, right? No one complains that they are staged.

niyad

(130,811 posts)
229. Yes, but this is about women protecting themselves. The very idea
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 07:53 PM
7 hrs ago

and image apparently offends some people.

mcar

(45,840 posts)
230. Yes, they have to be totally aware of what they are doing
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 09:04 PM
6 hrs ago

and not go too far to hurt the poor menz who are assaulting them.

Omnipresent

(7,359 posts)
105. It looks rehearsed.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:59 PM
Friday

She kept her back to him twice.
It’s safer to keep your back to an elevator wall, to see where anyone is. She allowed him to creep up behind her twice.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,331 posts)
111. "She allowed him...."
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:19 PM
Friday

Sure.

If she had done as you suggested, she'd have been trapped in the back corner.

Staying close to the elevator doors was smart.

ShazzieB

(22,372 posts)
151. And if he came at her again when her back was against the wall, she could have been trapped.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 07:13 PM
Friday

Thanks but no thanks!

I mean, I think it depends. Positioning herself with her back to the wall when she first got on, yeah. He would have probably been less likely to anything if he'd had to walk up to her with her facing him. Also, I can see that turning her back on him once he made the first move wasn't a great idea. But backing up to the wall at that point could have gotten her trapped, so I think staying vigilant and being ready to respond as needed was a reasonable strategy at that point.

[EDIT:This comment has been edited because I got confused about who I was replying to at the time. I was on my phone, and I got lost in this long complicated thread trying to follow it on that tiny screen.]

Omnipresent

(7,359 posts)
193. My point is that most people want to see who is lurking around behind them.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 04:28 AM
22 hrs ago

Even animals would rather keep their eyes on a potential predator.

misanthrope

(9,439 posts)
106. Convince me this isn't staged
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:00 PM
Friday

Every move she used on him looks like those used in staged fighting for audiences and cameras.

Tasmanian Devil

(89 posts)
112. Staged or scripted
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:19 PM
Friday

The action looked comic-book level fake to me. My wager would be that Gemini is correct and this is computer generated. I thought it looked a lot like something I'd expect in a video game. But who knows, clickbait is everywhere.

ShazzieB

(22,372 posts)
187. Yeah, even if it was staged or faked, I think it was informative.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:56 AM
Yesterday

I initially wondered if it was some sort of training video showing women how we can defend ourselves in a situation like that..

MineralMan

(150,929 posts)
123. If i am alone on an elevator and a
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 04:42 PM
Friday

Woman enters. I just say "Hi." Then I step to the front of the car opposite from the floor number buttons.

That's it. When I get to my floor, I step out and walk away.

I'm always aware that I might seem threatening in that situation.

LogDog75

(1,185 posts)
136. I've watched the video a couple of times and IMO no jury would convict her
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:23 PM
Friday

She was in a closed space with and being sexually assaulted. She hit him with a closed hand and almost sent him to the floor. He got up and took a step towards her. At that moment, he still posed a threat to her and she had the right to defend herself. She kicked him in the groin and he bent over, but not incapacitated, but he was still a danger to her so she kneed him in the head which sent him to the floor. At that point, he was no longer a threat and she was able to leave the elevator immediately when the doors opened.

Her movements look practices so I suspect that lady had some type of defensive training by the way she kicked him in the groin and then kneed him in the head.

HeartsCanHope

(1,577 posts)
141. I also agree that no jury would convict her.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:37 PM
Friday

She was sexually assaulted, alone in a closed space with the assailant, and I feel, took the steps

necessary to keep him from hurting her further. Kudos to her for standing up for herself.

DFW

(59,902 posts)
146. She was in an enclosed space with someone making unwanted advances, with no way to know how far he was going
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:48 PM
Friday

So, maybe he didn't have a knife or a taser. She shouldn't have to wait to find out.

Rebl2

(17,561 posts)
148. Not been
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:51 PM
Friday

On elevator in long while, but if I was the only woman on an elevator, and a man got on , I got off. That’s been years ago though.

canetoad

(20,471 posts)
155. Think back to 2016
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 07:31 PM
Friday

And how great it would have been if Hillary had done that to tsf when he lurked behind her at the debate.

canetoad

(20,471 posts)
163. Really?
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 08:25 PM
Friday

Can't believe I haven't seen it before, but there ya go.

Still, it's not an impossible situation. I've been forced to twist a guy's knackers till his eyes watered for grabbing my arse in a work situation. And I can give you his name if necessary.

ShazzieB

(22,372 posts)
188. I'll have to remember that move!
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:01 AM
Yesterday

I don't think I'd be able to put much force behind a kick, and that's if I didn't miss the target altogether. Twisting is much more my style!

chowmama

(1,045 posts)
166. If real, she did exactly the right thing.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 08:59 PM
Friday

And if staged/AI, it's a good training example.

He went from harassment to assault quickly and wasn't going to back off on his own. Small room, no escape, nobody coming to help. In self-defense classes, women are told to do whatever it takes to get free and able to escape and then run like hell. That's what she did.

She had no idea what he might have been on. She had no idea if he was armed with a gun or a garrote, duct tape, zip ties, or handcuffs. She had to incapacitate him until the doors opened. If they're delayed or jammed, and he starts to recover, she's dead. He's now aware that she'll fight, so she's lost the element of surprise. He's going to fight her as if she were a man; likely he has a longer reach and more muscle mass to do it with. Not many people have the expertise to counteract those advantages. And he's now pissed as hell, with all the corresponding adrenaline. Adrenaline can temporarily dull pain, for him as well as for her.

If those doors hadn't opened, she'd have been within her rights to go further.

chouchou

(2,972 posts)
172. 'Bought 9-10 years ago, my husband broke up a dude from hitting the dude's girlfriend.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 09:46 PM
Friday

YES..He Broke up the dude. Busting his arm. My Sweetheart !

BigmanPigman

(54,849 posts)
174. She should have nailed him even more. Make him a eunuch.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 10:03 PM
Friday

You KNOW he has done this before and will do it again. Too bad she wasn't carrying a knife to make sure this would be his last assault.

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pansypoo53219

(22,971 posts)
195. excellent job.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 05:44 AM
21 hrs ago

years ago a story in the paper. guy attempted to rape a woman + she grabbed his dick + wouldn't let go. i think she 'nailed' him too, cause he was pleading for mercy.

AZLD4Candidate

(6,747 posts)
199. Violence is good as long as we agree with the outcome
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 09:26 AM
18 hrs ago

There is a reason I put my earphones down on and ignore everyone when outside. Men. Women. Children. I only pay attention to dogs because dogs are wonderful and deserve our attention

blue-wave

(4,847 posts)
201. Good for Her!! She walloped an Epstein Jr. !! It appears she is trained
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 09:59 AM
17 hrs ago

in self defense. I believe every person, female or male, should be trained on how to react and defend in such assaults. The predators need to get their comeuppance.

LoveSucky

(50 posts)
204. That looked super choreographed
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 10:46 AM
16 hrs ago

But even if it was wasn't, I am surprised that there are posters here that think THAT was excessive.

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