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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSmart Homes Are Terrible (The Atlantic)
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/02/smart-homes-technology/685867/Light switches, which have been self-explanatory since the dawn of electric lighting, apparently now come as an unlabeled multibutton panel that literally required a tutorial session from a technician. Pressing the same button twice might turn the lights on and off, or you might have to press one button for on and another for off. It depends is the name of the gamewhich is exactly what you dont want when youre trying to find the bathroom in the middle of the night.
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On to the thermostats. When we got there, it was hot. But how hot, exactly? Round touch screens in various rooms took us through a labyrinth of tiny-text options just to set the temperature to 68 degrees. Or was it already at 68? We finally managed to select the temperature we wanted only to discover that a preset schedule overrode our choice, and wed have to figure out how to override that.
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Im no Luddite. I run a software company! I see the allure of high-tech gadgets and have fallen for their promises before. When my wife and I built a house more than a decade ago, we opted for all kinds of automated systems: low-voltage controls, mechanized blinds, irrigation systems that measure rain so the sprinklers come on only when you need them. We regretted it almost immediately. What we discovered is that this stuff requires setup, which can take more time than just doing things manually, and is maddeningly glitchy, forcing you to pay someone handsomely by the visit or the hour to fix your appliances for you.
Tech makes many things better, but you shouldnt have to learn how to use a house. You shouldnt need a tech tour and an app (or five) to turn the heat down or clean the dishes. You shouldnt have to worry that pressing the wrong button will set off a chain of events you dont know how to undo. All these powerful processors and thousands of lines of code have succeeded in making everyday things slower, harder to use, and less reliable than they used to be.
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BlueWaveNeverEnd
(13,429 posts)Over engineering?
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highplainsdem
(60,836 posts)The video shows a few other bad devices. The sections about the fridge start at 6:30 and 9:07.
Hugin
(37,622 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(13,429 posts)callous taoboy
(4,782 posts)Mine lasted about 4 months before the inside of the back panel froze solid and started leaking into the veggie drawer. I bought it through Sears, which had become entirely enshitified, and I wrangled with the store owner and some GM at the warehouse in Houston before I got half my money back.
kimbutgar
(26,985 posts)I have no idea how to operate it. My husband has the app to turn it on and off because Im past menopause and dont get cold anymore!
chouchou
(2,933 posts)"Jesus Christ!! Mary..You've ruined the entire drink. I told you 13 speed not 14 speed..You stupid cow !!"
Deuxcents
(26,024 posts)If I wanted a new programmable thermostat. No, thanks. I kept my old one..up, down, cool, heat, on n off! Easy 🤗
CTyankee
(67,909 posts)Now there are none of those worries, we just call for someone to fix any problem that arises and we have very nice, updated bathrooms and little kitchenette. Dinner is in the Dining Room. I don't cook. I can order a glass of wine with my dinner. What else do I need?
pat_k
(12,817 posts)I quit tech a few years ago to start a little dog walking/kitty care biz.
I didn't anticipate that figuring out how to turn on lights would be a particular challenge. But there you go.
If the light switches that are visible in a new client's home appear to be "smart" I ask if there's anything I need to know about working the lights. Unfortunately, even after explanations, they can be a pain. Press a button. On the lights go. Whoopee. Then they dim straight back down again. What the hell is that about?

keep_left
(3,188 posts)...that sends text messages to your cell phone when your clothes are done. Apparently it's a little too taxing for one to simply walk into the laundry room to check the machine oneself?!
JI7
(93,366 posts)or part of something.
Like businesses that feel like they need to hold certain meetings just because Zoom and Teams exist. Just because it exists doesn't mean you need to use it.
Figarosmom
(10,488 posts)One. I wouldn't let a car drive me somewhere either.
Intractable
(1,755 posts)I hate that thing. Have to sign away all privacy rights just to watch TV. If one doesn't "agree" to the terms, many functions of the TV are disabled.
It watches what I watch!
The rest of my house is pretty dumb, and I like it that way.
Hugin
(37,622 posts)Yeah, I know, GADS!
Honestly, I am pretty sure that the thermostat it replaced was hanging on a tree long before the house was built. Very manual and surprisingly unintuitive.
Not that its smart descendant is much more intuitive, there has been a learning curve. Starting from day one when I realized that it was so new that the company hadnt even gotten to put up an online manual yet. The installer warned me that it was a demo hed been given and we agreed on it being used because 1) He already had it. 2) Due to the smartening of the whole fricking HVAC universe, anything else he could get at the time would be obsolete before he could wire it in to place.
My new thermostat and I have become fast friends. I really like it and its become indispensable for me. Because of sensors built into the HVAC system and its remote pods scattered around the house, it has the most accurate weather forecasts on it of any of the 90 or so other forecasts available on every other digital device I have access to here. Including the car. Also, its got a feature where a constant temperature can be set where the thermostat switches between heat, cooling, and dehumidifier to maintain the comfort setting. Really nice during the spring and fall periods of variable conditions. I only had to hear the groaning and popping of the house once I started using it to know that its been missing. Gee, now all of the doors and windows open and close fully year around! Its got an app which allows me to check in with it from any point on the globe where there is a strong enough signal. Although, I am eternally forgetting that it has an app. I could if I wanted to.
Even though I am old school, I believe that having a deep relationship with a thermostat is worth the effort now that I know better.
Dont get me started on my smart garage door opener, tho.
róisín_dubh
(12,264 posts)Would like a cure for cancer or for their pets to live much longer, than for any of this crap.
I have a smart thermostat in my flat. I know I can turn it on and off. But my tech-y partner deals with the rest. I cannot be bothered.
ColoringFool
(431 posts)Wanted to make the thermostat a "Smart" one, connected to my cellphone so I could control or read the thermostat from Timbuktu.
I declined!
And I have manually set it at a constant 61 degrees (I'm a hot mama! 😁🤫
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FormerOstrich
(2,881 posts)I am old enough to remember when smart appliances were considered a thing of horror.
The episode "A Thing About Machines" is a great example of why we should keep our appliances at bay.
cstanleytech
(28,312 posts)unblock
(56,081 posts)I get it, smart homes aren't yet as seamless and intuitive as they will be in a few years.
Having said that, of course there's going to be a bit of a learning curve to use technology that offers more features. Sure, a light switch is intuitive, but that's in large part because it's dead simple, never mind very familiar. On, off, that's it.
But a light switch that can be operated from your bed or your car or while on vacation? Or on a set schedule? Of course it's going to be a bit more complex to set up, learn to use, and maintain.
Is it all worth it? That's a personal choice. Me, I don't think the advantages are particularly compelling. Cool and fun, but usually not essential.
Having said that, it sure is nice to be able to check remotely if the garage door actually closed, talk to a visitor at the front door when your actually at work, turn down the thermostat from the airport after you forgot to do it in your haste to make your plane, or even just turn all the lights out in the whole house from your bed.
Hugin
(37,622 posts)Really, smart In itself is an ill defined buzzword. Id prefer intuitive.
unblock
(56,081 posts)It takes experience and feedback and trial and error to get it streamlined and intuitive. Smart tech hasn't been around all that long so it's still a bit raw. In particular, there are many manufacturers, so these devices don't always play nice with each other.
But hardware on computers was like that in the early days. It took years before "plug and play". Now, installing new software or hardware is usually pretty straightforward. But it certainly wasn't always like that.
But it will get there soon enough for smart devices.
Hugin
(37,622 posts)Who is a feature really useful to.
An example is power mirrors on a vehicle. The vast majority of them being used a tiny number of times in the service life of a vehicle. Why are they there?
Probably because they are desirable and useful for fleet operators such as rental and leasing. Who buy large numbers of vehicles.
Most of the current smartness seems to be geared towards data collection. Data collection for whom? I am already aware of most of my data.
yonder
(10,265 posts)I hate to see the migration of everyday design away from practical simplicity.
Just because we can is no reason to backtrack on ease of use all the whlie being forced to stay abreast of proprietary differences/new updates and the expense of complex repair or replacement.
Skittles
(170,209 posts)but then, I never, ever take a cell phone with me anywhere
Seinan Sensei
(1,441 posts)My kingdom for a manual thermostat!
Hugin
(37,622 posts)Complete with a little brush to dust off the mercury switch to keep it within a 30% accuracy.
