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bigtree

(93,371 posts)
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 09:23 PM Saturday

Kamala Harris: We've seen this movie before. Wars for regime change or oil that are sold as strength but turn into chaos

Kamala Harris @KamalaHarris
Donald Trump’s actions in Venezuela do not make America safer, stronger, or more affordable.

That Maduro is a brutal, illegitimate dictator does not change the fact that this action was both unlawful and unwise. We’ve seen this movie before. Wars for regime change or oil that are sold as strength but turn into chaos, and American families pay the price.

The American people do not want this, and they are tired of being lied to. This is not about drugs or democracy. It is about oil and Donald Trump’s desire to play the regional strongman. If he cared about either, he wouldn’t pardon a convicted drug trafficker or sideline Venezuela’s legitimate opposition while pursuing deals with Maduro’s cronies.

The President is putting troops at risk, spending billions, destabilizing a region, and offering no legal authority, no exit plan, and no benefit at home.

America needs leadership whose priorities are lowering costs for working families, enforcing the rule of law, strengthening alliances, and — most importantly — putting the American people first.

8:05 PM · Jan 3, 2026
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Kamala Harris: We've seen this movie before. Wars for regime change or oil that are sold as strength but turn into chaos (Original Post) bigtree Saturday OP
Post removed Post removed Saturday #1
And gone. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Saturday #2
I actually saw the troll post and alerted mvd Saturday #6
I did the same. Hellbound Hellhound Saturday #7
Haha. Excellent use of your Saturday. ok_cpu Saturday #4
They get $200 Trump Bucks for weekend posting. OAITW r.2.0 Saturday #18
I'm having flashbacks to 2003 and "Operation Iraqi Freedom," and they aren't good ones. Vogon_Glory Saturday #3
It was originally called MustLoveBeagles Saturday #9
O.I.L. OAITW r.2.0 Saturday #20
Bingo MustLoveBeagles Saturday #22
That's the right stance mvd Saturday #5
This is a good posture for Democrats. Recognize that Maduro is a brutal and illegitimate dictator but emphasize tritsofme Saturday #8
Just what I was thinking... and State What Cha Saturday #14
K&R betsuni Saturday #10
Well said, Madam VP mcar Saturday #11
KNR niyad Saturday #12
K&R spanone Saturday #13
Could get ugly moondust Saturday #15
My President....and she seems like she is stepping up. OAITW r.2.0 Saturday #16
Really powerful statement, Let's see how the media digests this? OAITW r.2.0 Saturday #17
Powerful statement but why wasn't it posted to Bluesky? BoycottTwitter Saturday #19
Watched in my YT feed....thankfully. OAITW r.2.0 Saturday #21
Because she has more than 100x as many followers on X, 20.7M vs 185K. Her post got 4.7M views highplainsdem Sunday #24
She has staff. BoycottTwitter Sunday #25
I urge people to have Bluesky accounts as well as Twitter accounts. I use both myself because a highplainsdem Sunday #27
I agree with you there! BoycottTwitter Sunday #32
I get very little "real engagement" on either Twitter or Bluesky... Jack Valentino Sunday #30
I've found support for Democrats and Democratic reps on twitter MorbidButterflyTat Sunday #26
It's an important platform and shouldn't be ceded to rightwingers, with liberals scattering to much highplainsdem Sunday #28
Musk controls the algorithm, what you see and has our data BoycottTwitter Sunday #31
Here's her post from X. PLEASE put the link in your OP, or at least in the first reply below, because if highplainsdem Sunday #23
Strongest political statement I've seen from her in more than a year.... Jack Valentino Sunday #29
"Any such resistance has been too long coming" -- who do you mean hasn't been resisting Trump? Voters? betsuni Sunday #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Sunday #34

Response to bigtree (Original post)

7. I did the same.
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 09:32 PM
Saturday

Honestly I didn't expect it to last that long but so it did. And so it disappeared, and that's all that matters.

mvd

(65,841 posts)
5. That's the right stance
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 09:30 PM
Saturday

The fact that he is a dictator is immaterial. We can’t just take out a leader who is no threat to us, with no Congressional approval. This about the oil - not drugs or immigration problems.

tritsofme

(19,797 posts)
8. This is a good posture for Democrats. Recognize that Maduro is a brutal and illegitimate dictator but emphasize
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 09:33 PM
Saturday

that Trump’s actions were illegal and dangerous.

Cha

(316,837 posts)
14. Just what I was thinking... and State What
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 10:56 PM
Saturday

Traitor Should be Focusing on.. Like Kamala did.

TY & Kamala Harris!

moondust

(21,214 posts)
15. Could get ugly
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 11:01 PM
Saturday

and last a while.

Superficial reality TV actors focused on impressing people with tough guy video clips aren't known for long-term planning. Apparently VZ has a sizeable military that Maduro has cleansed of his opponents. How will they react? Multiple cartels may see an opportunity. How will they react? How will VZ allies in BRICS react? ...

BoycottTwitter

(96 posts)
19. Powerful statement but why wasn't it posted to Bluesky?
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 11:40 PM
Saturday

I guess it could be the character limit but most people just split things up into threads.

Is there anyway to reach out to whoever is doing Kamala Harris's social media and ask that they post all her posts to Bluesky as well?

It's really important that we do everything we can to move people away from Twitter. Why enrich our enemy (Elon Musk) by using his Nazi-bar platform?

highplainsdem

(60,043 posts)
24. Because she has more than 100x as many followers on X, 20.7M vs 185K. Her post got 4.7M views
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 12:15 AM
Sunday

in 4 hours on X, with 82K likes and 16K reposts. If she has limited time, it makes more sense to post a message on X to reach more people.

By all means write to her if you think she should always post on Bluesky as well. But many if not most prominent Democrats post more messages on X than on Bluesky.

BoycottTwitter

(96 posts)
25. She has staff.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 12:27 AM
Sunday

For a lot of important people they have staff who do things like social media. It's unlikely Kamala Harris personally logs in to Twitter and Bluesky and posts everything herself. In addition often times people use social media management software to automatically post to multiple platforms and even if they don't have that it only takes a minute or two to copy and paste your post.

"But many if not most prominent Democrats post more messages on X than on Bluesky." that's a huge problem. I acknowledge that it's true but I really wish it were not. I believe crossposting is a great way to bring us closer towards ending our dependence on Twitter.

Also about follower count: Twitter has a big bot platform. Bluesky is great about removing bots. I've reported some obvious bots and they got banned within minutes. You'll never see that fast of a response on Twitter.

Also Bluesky has real enagement. Twitter has view counts and follower counts that might be inflated. We should pay attention to real results that people get with Bluesky vs Twitter.

NPR left Twitter and barely noticed anything: https://niemanreports.org/npr-twitter-musk/

Charles Gaba notices that "Bluesky consistently has the highest engagement in both traffic & donations on a per-follower basis" source:

SOCIAL MEDIA ENGAGEMENT:

I cross-post every fundraising link at the same time using the same phrasing across 5 different platforms.

Bluesky consistently has the highest engagement in both traffic & donations on a per-follower basis...4.4x higher & 2.8x higher than Twitter for the full year.

Charles GetCovered-ba ✡️ (@charlesgaba.com) 2026-01-01T17:08:23.279Z


Kat Abughazaleh has decided to completely stop using Twitter:

This has always been a Bluesky-first campaign. But as of today, we will no longer be using Twitter. At all.

And I'm calling on other candidates to follow suit.

Kat Abughazaleh (@katmabu.bsky.social) 2025-12-22T16:37:38.431Z


She sites better fundraising on Bluesky.

So the fact is Bluesky is already delivering real results and is a much better platform than Twitter. But you're right ultimately even when we eliminate all the bots and fake views it is still true that Twitter does have a big user base so there is a lot of work left to be done. I hope you'll join me in the fight by urging others to switch to Bluesky.

highplainsdem

(60,043 posts)
27. I urge people to have Bluesky accounts as well as Twitter accounts. I use both myself because a
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 12:39 AM
Sunday

lot of people important to me are still on X but not Bluesky, or are posting much more on X, and I'm not going to demand that they post something on Bluesky before I pay attention to it, respond to it or repost it.

I'll usually look for a Bluesky copy of a message to post on DU even if I see it first on X, but if it's something DUers should know about and it hasn't been posted on Bluesky, I'll post the X message, out of respect for the person who posted the message, and out of respect for the many DUers who still use X and are likely to want to respond there.

BoycottTwitter

(96 posts)
32. I agree with you there!
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 01:22 AM
Sunday

You're right about this! I do appreciate you taking the time to first check Bluesky and post that instead of Twitter. In addition I can't blame someone for posting something that was exclusively on Twitter.

I will mention it's possible to use a tweet viewer like xcancel.com, nitter.net or nitter.poast.org to bypass Twitter's login requirement but then it doesn't embed the same when using that.

Jack Valentino

(4,375 posts)
30. I get very little "real engagement" on either Twitter or Bluesky...
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 01:00 AM
Sunday

although I have a fairly large number of "followers" on both...

Yes, Bluesky seems effective at eliminating 'fake' accounts,
since I get a lot of messages on bluesky
from users whose accounts have been 'closed'
before I try to read their messages---- (most of which were posted by "fake women"!)

BUT, on the other hand, I hardly receive ANY such FAKE messages from TWITTER---
EVEN WHEN I post trollish messages under right-wing #tags!

I am rather disappointed with any responses from either platform---

(although that is probably my fault---
don't spend enough time trying to engage with 'conversations' in post responses....)


I am PARTICULARLY disappointed with BlueSky
in the almost total lack of post 'likes', much less responses,
even though I spend quite a bit of effort trying to link with like-minded people---
(as is still being posted in my signature line on this site!)

Pffft. Whatever.



highplainsdem

(60,043 posts)
28. It's an important platform and shouldn't be ceded to rightwingers, with liberals scattering to much
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 12:44 AM
Sunday

smaller platforms. That scattering is what Musk and other RWers would like us to do.

BoycottTwitter

(96 posts)
31. Musk controls the algorithm, what you see and has our data
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 01:18 AM
Sunday

My ultimate goal is to make Twitter a ghost town. It's not just a matter of only liberals or Democrats leaving Twitter, it's everyone that should leave except we can leave the hard-right fascists behind because they shouldn't be anywhere but if they have to be somewhere having them quarantined to a toxic dumb is better than having them where we are. Then once Twitter becomes irrelevant I hope they will close their doors and go out of business.

Leading up to the 2024 election Elon Musk was involved in an operation to micro-target Americans and focus on a single issue to divided Democrats and reduce turnout. This led to people focusing on that single issue and reduced turnout. Whenever someone talks about a single issue I think it's important to remind people that candidates have many different policies and it's important to vote for who matches most of your stances, not all your stances. Here's the article about Musk's microtargeting: https://sfl.media/elon-musk-funded-pac-is-using-advanced-micro-targeting-to-swing-voters-for-trump/. See also https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/11/15/republican-ads-false-flag/ or non-paywall link: https://archive.is/k3mKE .

Ultimately Trump's campaign strategy was to "lose less". There was an article I read a long time ago about this, sadly I didn't bookmark it so I don't have it for you but it was really good. This will serve as a substitute: https://www.apr.org/politics-government/2024-11-09/these-charts-show-how-trumps-strategy-to-lose-by-less-won-back-several-swing-states the article I read along time ago explained in a more clear way how the Trump campaign's goal was to reduce enthusiasm among Democrats so they don't turn out. The Trump campaign realized they won't get many new Trump supports so that's what they did: bring down Democrats instead of bring up Republicans.

Musk can remove something he doesn't like at any time. For example when Musk's DOGE was raiding the government DOGE never showed up in the trending section despite it being big news on other platforms and I noticed it seemed like posts related to the illegal things DOGE was doing had less reach on Twitter.

Musk can also subtly alter what kind of content undecided voters see and radicalize them.

Musk can do basically anything since he owns the platform. He's like the casino house.

I wish I could find the discussion but there were some big accounts who were talking about how after Elon Musk bought Twitter all of a sudden their account dropped off almost completely in terms of engagement.

highplainsdem

(60,043 posts)
23. Here's her post from X. PLEASE put the link in your OP, or at least in the first reply below, because if
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 12:01 AM
Sunday

you don't, people will wonder where you got it or if it's fake, as so much on the internet is these days.

If you don't want the X link to appear with text you're quoting, then break the link with spaces. If you're worried people will skip your OP if you post her actual message because they avoid posts with tweets, then you can quote it in the OP and tell people to look at the reply you'll post below for the actual message.





Kamala Harris
@KamalaHarris

Donald Trump’s actions in Venezuela do not make America safer, stronger, or more affordable.

That Maduro is a brutal, illegitimate dictator does not change the fact that this action was both unlawful and unwise. We’ve seen this movie before. Wars for regime change or oil that are sold as strength but turn into chaos, and American families pay the price.

The American people do not want this, and they are tired of being lied to.

This is not about drugs or democracy. It is about oil and Donald Trump’s desire to play the regional strongman. If he cared about either, he wouldn’t pardon a convicted drug trafficker or sideline Venezuela’s legitimate opposition while pursuing deals with Maduro’s cronies.

The President is putting troops at risk, spending billions, destabilizing a region, and offering no legal authority, no exit plan, and no benefit at home.

America needs leadership whose priorities are lowering costs for working families, enforcing the rule of law, strengthening alliances, and — most importantly — putting the American people first.

7:05 PM · Jan 3, 2026 · 4.7M Views


Jack Valentino

(4,375 posts)
29. Strongest political statement I've seen from her in more than a year....
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 12:47 AM
Sunday

I agree completely with it,
but any such resistance has been too long coming....

betsuni

(28,721 posts)
33. "Any such resistance has been too long coming" -- who do you mean hasn't been resisting Trump? Voters?
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 01:49 AM
Sunday

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