Is Trump just absolutely blowing this right now?

[EarlG]

I mean, okay, he busted into Venezuela and captured Maduro. Maduro was an illegitimate leader, and pretty much everyone agreed that he was a piece of shit, although obviously not everyone agreed about what to do with him. I can see how a lot of Americans would be rah-rah-rah over the action Trump took.

But now Trump is out there at a press conference seemingly making things up as he goes along. We're going to run the country. We're going to have boots on the ground. We're going to take their oil and the oil companies will pay for everything.

Rubio already said that "this is over," presumably assuming that that WAS the plan. Rubio also said, "this was just a police action." Now Trump seems to be making up strategy and policy on the fly, talking about occupying Venezuela with American troops on the ground, stealing their oil, and threatening other countries. He seems out of control and looks like he's making this shit up as he goes along.

Did Rubio know that he was going to be named joint ruler of Venezuela before this press conference started?

[malaise]

1. The biggest piece of shit on this planet is the US president

That is all

[GoCubsGo]

3. And, the next bigest pieces of shit are his enablers.

That includes the militar"leaders" who went along with this shit.

[hibbing]

18. Along with billionaire owned media n/t

[vapor2]

74. AGREED

and I am confused as to why the military did something illegal

[markodochartaigh]

82. Reading a free, short ebook by one of the most highly decorated major generals may help you.

https://www.fadedpage.com/books/20160538/html.php

[barbtries]

96. Thank you

I downloaded it and will read it.

[NameAlreadyTaken]

14. The biggest piece of shit is...

...the Trump voter

[Mr.Bee]

56. Yes, Charles Foster Kane says,

"People will think... What I tell them to think!" in Citizen Kane

[COL Mustard]

58. I watched that a few weeks ago.

It fits right into where we are today. Scary but I guess cycles repeat every 80-100 years or so.

[vapor2]

75. having not seen the movie this line is scary as shit

[Traildogbob]

29. Everyone involved

And propheting from the OIL needs to be convicted and sentenced to water boarding with oil. Forced to drink the shit till they end. Starting at the top.

[yellow dahlia]

62. Agreed.

[Captain Zero]

2. Trump has been breaking the laws here for a year, now

he will be breaking international laws in V.

[yellow dahlia]

63. Yes. Is this a matter for the International Courts?

[vapor2]

76. Please tell us that the International Courts can do something/anything

[yellow dahlia]

77. I dunno. But aren't there laws that apply?

"We" don't recognize the ICC...but...I don't care. Other countries do.

[zorbasd]

80. International law is toothlessly pathetic

can never be enforced if big powers become pirates, look at Russia, and now the US, so yeah, just a ruse.

[BComplex]

101. Trump has broken laws his entire life. He's proud of it. He's a convicted felon.

With the greatest power in his hands the world has known.

This is a horror movie. And I've always avoided horror movies.

[underpants]

4. He blows everything there's just no one around him who can tell him that.

He left out an "i".
"Ruin." I fixed it.


From here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20905598

[Traildogbob]

35. Evidently

He blows Bubba.
Arnold Palmer, he is in awl of his man meat. On video on audio ranting about the view of said meat, from golf club showers.
We know damn well he does not shower in public with that hair, heel lifts, spandex and make up.
So why does he hang around club showers doing a GymJordan on other’s man meat?
“Inquire-ing” minds want (need) to know.

[Ol Janx Spirit]

102. Actually, the un was supposed to be an ob....

We will ROB the country....

It was already pretty much ruined by Maduro.

[Disaffected]

5. Of course he is.

And sounding drunk and deranged to boot. Or more likely, it's drugged and deranged.

[BootinUp]

6. Right now it has a game show feel. nt

[leftstreet]

8. +1 Maduro has been fired!

[BootinUp]

12. I'm watching Rubio put on his best mini tRump performance.

[thought crime]

31. You can almost feel the excitement of Trump's cult audience. So much Winning!

In this episode, Little Marko has become Joint Ruler of Venezuela!
What lucky country will Trump invade in the next episode?
Stay Tuned!!

[lonely bird]

103. Good question

My buddy says Greenland.

[yellow dahlia]

64. Exactly.

Like they are playing a video game, and getting off on the bells and whistles.

[spanone]

7. He's going to steal all their money

[global1]

9. DJT Doesn't Sound Like He Has Dementia Now....

How does he do this?

He's like Dr. Jeckel & Mr. Hyde.

[EarlG]

13. I mean, he kinda does

He just started rambling on about the seven, eight, nine wars that he stopped.

[Johonny]

16. He talked about Joe Biden and 2020

And the train attack and that he is going to run a country he isn't in, has no boots on the ground, and appears to have a current leader. He is talking about flooding the oil market with high cost to refine oil that somehow America now owns, . . .

This doesn't sound like the ravings of a coherent on message man. He is making the Iraq war 2 justification sound noble and well thought out.

It doesn't help Rubio is acting like all this is news to him. . . I hope he has dementia at this point. The other options are far worse.

[Pluvious]

68. I wish just one reporter would ask...

"Sir, you mentioned many times how great your perfect memory is, could you please sir, name off the nine wars you ended?"

[Iwasthere]

17. They clean him up with ai

If you ever see him articulate you can be ai helped. Whata Fuck$ing world eh?

[Johnny2X2X]

10. This is just stunning.

The US just went a message to the entire world. We will kill it Jonah your leaders not they don’t bend their will to Trump. Maduro wouldn’t pay the shake down to Trump so he took him out. The leaders of Canada and Denmark could be next.

[LisaL]

11. Dementia (or whatever it is he has going in his head)

is known to remove inhibitions.

[RandomNumbers]

100. He was always a piece of shit. Now,

he is a piece of shit with zero guardrails.

Thanks, Trump voters.

[betsuni]

15. Of course. Biggest attention super-high, everyone's talking about him. It's Trump World and he is king of the world.

[Seinan Sensei]

27. And fewer people are talking about the Epstein Files

E
EP
EPS
EPST
EPSTE
EPSTEI
EPSTEIN!
EPSTEIN!!
EPSTEIN!!!
EPSTEIN!!!!
EPSTEIN!!!!!

[yellow dahlia]

66. Look - over there.

[spike jones]

19. " Are we the baddies?"

[BidenRocks]

23. Yes!

Big guy kicks the crap out of a second grader.

That's chump.

[ancianita]

20. While the felon's own Sec of State calls VZ strikes a police action, UN members will call it state sponsored terrorism.

Kidnapping a sitting president of a sovereign state, a founding member of the U.N., will not persuade U.N. members otherwise. This action could result in sanctions by U.N. members against the United States. Moreover, other unintended geopolitical consequences of this hit on VZ are yet to happen (not to mention the negative impact this will likely have on the 2026 congressional elections).

[mr715]

22. The the UN Security Council

will veto.

[ancianita]

41. And allow international lawlessness? China, France and the UK will outvote Russia and the US on

the General Assembly's resolution that the U.S. has, in fact, violated the U.N.'s Charter.

Other countries have condemned the U.S. attack -- China, France, Mexico, Canada, Brazil's President Lula Da Silva, Belarus, Uruguay, Chile, Norway... others not so explicitly, who call for order for the Venezuelan people and diplomatic solutions. Let's see how Rubio and our U.N. rep respond.
https://archive.ph/tkDen

[mr715]

43. The General Assembly has little power.

The security council does, but the US has a veto and will use it.

Corrected from "no power" to little power.

[ancianita]

49. Right. Still the GA will meet, make speeches for the record, & Mike Walz will vote as Rubio & the felon tell him.

There'll still be unintended bad geopolitical consequences as the felon drags Americans of good will along in the Axis of Evil.

This violence diverts US media attention from the doj's lawless delay in releasing the million+ Epstein files.
Worse, none of it will distract millions at home from the increasing economic hardship that they and big numbers of his own voters will continue to suffer this year.

[DFW]

52. Belarus condemned the attack? For real?

Belarus is a vassal state that is a lapdog stooge of Putin. Lukashenko is a slave to Putin, practically licks his boots twice daily. Since Lukashenko is fully on board, up to and including active participation, with Putin's invasion and annexation attempt of the Ukraine (not that he has a choice), his condemnation of anyone else doing the exact same thing is a joke.

[ancianita]

72. This looks true politically. Belarus, however, is a founding member, signing the UN Charter as the Byelorussian Soviet

Socialist Republic (BSSR) in 1945. Belarus continued its membership after independence by informing the UN of its name change in 1991.

Belarus actively participates in UN activities, supports its principles, and has served in various UN bodies, though its relationship with some bodies, like the Security Council, has faced scrutiny.

So I'd say that Belarus is taking the long historical view that aligns with the majority of UN members, as it should.

From Reuters:

BELARUS PRESIDENT ALEXANDER LUKASHENKO:

"The President of Belarus CATEGORICALLY CONDEMNS the act of American aggression against Venezuela. Alexander Lukashenko spoke about the consequences just recently in an interview with American journalists," Belta news agency cited Natalia Eismont, spokesperson for Lukashenko, as saying.

https://archive.ph/tkDen

[Wild blueberry]

21. Release all the Epstein files

[BidenRocks]

24. Nothing good comes from a

"Police Action"!

[thought crime]

25. "Joint Ruler of Venezuela" will look good on Marko's CV.

He will cherish it, although he knows he's just another contestant on the Apprentice.

[choie]

26. I don't care how big a POS

Maduro is, it is an illegal act. Period. We are a rogue nation. No excuses.

[bluestarone]

28. BONE SPURS controlling our bmilitary. Now THAT'S amazing.

All our strong leaders we depend on saving our DEMOCRACY just fold like a pretzel. What a crock of shit.

[C_U_L8R]

44. Now our military knows how Trump's golf caddies feel

carrying his balls for a living.

[calimary]

84. OUCH!

Good one, though!

[2naSalit]

30. Meanwhile, Epstein!

I have been watching this aspect of his behavior, and the artistic placement of facial fillers and new favored camera angle to try and hide, the stoke induced drooping of his face. He has a partially paralyzed tongue since this summer, you can hear it when he speaks words that use the back of the tongue... sounds slurry and drunk.

As for his upbeat demeanor, he's probably pumped up with puppy uppers and backed up with some 'happy talk' about something that cheers him up so he can perform for the cameras for a short time so we can all see he's still upright. Bet we won't actually see him for a day or three unless he's sitting behind a desk holding his hand. He's all about performing so that helps get him excited enough to go out and play his tough guy role for a few minutes.

I think it's over for him in a number of ways. I think it won't be long before we are looking at this as the start of the big change we have to make in this country by the end of the year.

[yorkster]

45. Right. He came shrtaight from the dentisht.

Novocaine shpeak is a real bisshh.

I've honestly not heard him sound this bad before. And then there's what he's actually saying. Kreist.

[vapor2]

86. And did you see him dozing off during the press conference this morning?

His goons can only prop him for so much longer

[2naSalit]

88. I did ee...

A video short of it, that's what I mean, you know what I mean?

He can only make short appearances where he gets his fifteen minutes of manic behavior and then fades into dozeville.

Won't be long now.

[twodogsbarking]

32. Every day is something even more f'd up than the day before. Shocking to watch one mentally unstable asshole

do crazy shit and get away with it.

[RockRaven]

33. In order for him for really blow it, there would have to be a possibility of meaningful consequences

And I struggle to see a prospect for meaningful consequences for him and his. Where would they come from? How?

As always, he fucks around, everyone else pays the price.

[MineralMan]

34. I think he's going to walk that nonsense back...

He does that all the time. He overstates something wildly and then acts like he never said what he clearly said and goes on like nothing was said at all.

Practically, we can't "run Venezuela." Impossible. Trump's just fantasizing. He does that, too. All the time.

[bucolic_frolic]

36. To me it's entirely about the right to overturn elections. Beware 2026.

"When you're a star, they let you do it."

Entitlement, privilege, power. The right to do anything.

[PATRICK]

78. About those elections

How are the gerrymandering laws going? How is the intimidation and demands for voter ID going? How is protecting real US citizens of targeted groups going? ALL the routine election suppression in the GOP hefty playbook? All the new stuff they tend to add to fix the tallies? All the imaginary powers of Trump to generally f things up, maybe the entire mail-in ballot process? All the consequences of Trump tossing the ballots before or after by projection of chaotic mischief on the far far out left(e.g. even meek and rule keeping Democratic suckers). This is a couple of decades of getting taken to the cleaners by an unlawful minority, plutocrat-owned party with barely a thumb in the dike by the too loyal opposition.

Inquiring minds would like to sleep at night.

[EarthAbides]

37. Mexico is next

Probably Iran, too.

[C Moon]

39. Greenland.

[C Moon]

38. Rubio's TACOs

[Wounded Bear]

40. trump always flies by the seat of his pants...

as in pulls shit out of his ass as he goes along.

This is gonna suck, big time.

[BlueTsunami2018]

42. There are few things he's honest about.

He’s being honest about this. It’s an imperialistic action to steal the resources and hand them over to the worst actors on earth.

In the past we’ve always pretended our coups and takeovers were organic, grassroots “revolutions.”

He’s just saying it straight out.

“We’re stealing their shit, we’re enslaving their people and fuck you, do something about it.”

In a sick way, it’s kind of refreshing. We’re not even putting on an act that we’re the “good guys.”

[Farmer-Rick]

46. No I don't agree

Maduro is only a piece of shit if you buy into all the propaganda spewed for years about socialism in Venezuela. He was not a drug running kingpin like the one pedo Trump just pardoned. It's the fear of socialism that the filthy-rich have instilled into most Americans that makes most people anti Maduro.

But look at his replacement. A woman who wants to sell off the Venezuelan oil fields to Donny Jr. A "free" trader like Pinochet, Machado. Except for her lack of military skills and leadership abilities, she just like Pinochet. Maduro is whole lot better than she is. Do you think she's going to give Venezuelans the right to vote? No she wants to be like pedo Trump.

And now Trump is saying he's going to run Venezuela. So, does he think Venezuela is just going to roll over and do what their king or queen tells them? Nothing about voting, nothing about freedom or civil rights. Yeah, big improvement over Maduro....not.

[EarlG]

50. I don't think that most people who are familiar with Maduro dislike him because of propaganda or a "fear of socialism"

Along with his predecessor Hugo Chavez, Maduro did a pretty good job of ruining Venezuela. At least that's what I hear from my Venezuelan friends who grew up there. FWIW, they also think that Machado is a right-wing piece of shit, and they hate Trump too. They wanted to see Maduro gone, but they don't want to see a radical right-wing government take his place, nor do they want to see the U.S. bombing Venezuela and then running the country.

I don't think this is a situation that is divided neatly into two opposing sides.

I do agree that there is no irony lost in seeing dictator Trump crowing about freeing Venezuela from the clutches of dictator Maduro.

[Farmer-Rick]

55. I have friends in Venezuela who loved Maduro

Yeah, most of the filthy-rich disliked Maduro. A lot of people who loved "free" trade didn't want Maduro. Even in Venezuela the propaganda convinced many people. It's difficult to realize you're are being manipulated as you can tell from all the Americans who voted for pedo Trump.

But there was and is just so much constant anti Maduro spewed daily from everywhere that it feels like a consorted effort to decieve. There is a large contingency in Venezuela who voted and supported Maduro. I wonder what they are planning now?

I predict a civil or a guerilla war as Venezuelans unite to boot out the US.

Madura wasn't the best but he was better than Pinochet wannabe Machado. He's certainly better than anything the pedo wants to do.

[lapfog_1]

60. this is what I am hearing from my friends in Venezuela too.

Maduro was a piece of shit,,, stole the election, arrested protesters and put them in prison, and drove the economy into the dirt.

The USA didn't help matters by imposing sanctions on oil from Venezuela. I guess oil profits are only OK only if US oil companies get to keep most of the money.

But instead of using the money from oil to diversify the economy and help the people... Maduro used it to prop up his power and for his cronies.

[AStern]

67. I'm sure things will improve with the right winger that's going to be installed

nt.

[Historic NY]

47. Putting a Cuban in charge.

[Rstrstx]

73. This was a trial run for Cuba

[ananda]

81. Agree.

Trump said Cuba's next.

[orangecrush]

48. I wonder

If Putin gave Trump Venezuela in exchange for Ukraine.

[JI7]

51. The reason most Americans oppose war these days

is becsuse of what comes after with the nation building and everything that comes with it.

Trump didn't do this to help the people of Venezuela. Many might be happy now becsuse Maduro sucked but Trump is only focused on what he can get out of it. He thinks the people of Venezuela owe him now. Trump won't stop until he profits from all of this.

[ashredux]

53. Trump......." I am King of the world!"....... Well, we know how that ended..... and the band played on.....

[timms139]

54. He should

move there and denounce his US citizenship and rule all he wants.

[lapfog_1]

57. "police action"

Did Interpol show up with an arrest warrant?

Maybe he meant "Special Military Operation" ( translated from Russian )

[Exp]

59. You break it, you bought it. Repairing Venezuela is going to cost us BILLIONS! Ah, sorry, no money for education,

hospitals, retirement, roads, etc.

Send TrumpCo to the HAGUE!!

[yellow dahlia]

61. The answer is always yes, when you pose that question.

SO much wrong with today's actions and press conference.

DU members see through it all.

[mountain grammy]

65. Madman

[uponit7771]

69. "We're going to have boots on the ground.".... We're cooked !!!

[SleeplessinSoCal]

70. Trump Lies

That is the essential element in his "presidency". They didnt steal our oil. They're not sending us Fentanyl. The women leaders in Venezuela and Mexico are capable leaders. He is not capable. He's governing outside the law of the land. And if more than half of us are OK with that, who the hell are we?

[Maru Kitteh]

71. From Rubio's face Ima say no. He didn't. I enjoyed where Trump called him to

the mike to explain how, if we had better presidents in the US in the past we wouldn’t even have to have all these Cubans here at all, and that’s why we’re doing Venezuela, and Marco you’re Cuban, why don't you get up here and tell the people how we could have kept all the Cubans in Cuba.

And of course, Lil’ Marco just bopped right up there.

[lark]

79. I was closely watching and Rubio acted utterly shocked when krasnov said he'd be ruling Venezuela.

Shocked!

[tavernier]

83. We live in interesting times.

Over Christmas it is a family tradition to rewatch the Harry Potter movies while we bake cookies and decorate the tree, etc. There are eight films so It takes several days to finish the whole series and by that time the lights are up and the packaged are wrapped, and the ham and roast beef is ready to carve. And as I watch them, it always strikes me how similar the Voldemort versus Harry scenario is to what is going on in our country. A very great number of kids grew up watching these movies snd reading the books, and when I talk to them now as young adults, I really do sense the feeling of right versus wrong and good versus evil remains strong in their characters. That perhaps what they learned in those past 30 years left a mark. I may be wrong, but I sense that when they walk into a voting booth come November, they will know which column is comprised of Death Eaters. And perhaps some good magic will occur.

[calimary]

94. I'm sure the Harry Potter films have been cinematic teachable moments.

Sure, trump is not Lord Voldemort, but I swear, sometimes I think there's not a lot of difference. Especially when I think about the ramifications for the future.

Evil is evil. In whatever form it presents itself.

[TBF]

85. To be fair, he is losing his shit because there is so much going on -

Epstein, dementia meds, Jack Smith, Melania's no doubt re-negotiating her pre-nup for the 20th time, and f-ing Putin won't let Ukraine go. What's a guy to do?

[Dem4life1970]

87. An Illegitimate President removed an Illegitimate President

[Crunchy Frog]

89. If it becomes a quagmire, maybe he won't invade Greenland.

One can hope anyway.

[highplainsdem]

91. One can hope, but that assumes Trump will decide to act less crazily or the flunkies around him will be able

to discourage him.

The tech billionaires want Greenland:
https://www.thenerdreich.com/tech-billionaires-want-to-build-a-network-state-in-greenland/

[lonely bird]

104. The tech billionaires want Greenland...

Shoot them all. They are a waste of resources.

[usonian]

90. He achieved his goal, the one that accounts for all the destruction in his term.

[Jack Valentino]

92. Trump ALWAYS "looks like he's making this shit up as he goes along" Because HE IS---

(especially since the 2024 election--- and well before THAT....)


I didn't watch this morning's Trump press conference,
partly because I had no need to watch it....


(By the way-- did it actually happen??)

[Orrex]

93. Maybe he'll just fucking die.

[Snoopy 7]

95. wake the f up people

The orange man with the blond squirl on his head isn't making the decisions. The real people making the decisions are the oligarchs that send the order to the orange man on what he's to do next. (e.g. oil companies who wanted the Venezuela oil) If we don't deal with the oligarchs first, then the oligarchs will just give us another orange man, whether he's a democrat or a republican they don't care. The oligarchs will just promise the next orange man millions and billions, which is just pocket change to them, and they will do their biddings. Monopolies, Citizens United, Oligarchs THOSE ARE THE PROBLEMS, not the orange man and his family who are being enriched as long as they do as they are told. If I thought that orange man and his cronies were going to face the law for their crimes then I would say go after orange man. Instead everyone is screaming about the orange man and not blaming the real leaders of the USA...

[Conjuay]

97. I'm sure all his Hedge Fund buddies are squabbling over who is going to get what piece of the pie.

N T

[ratchiweenie]

98. Rubio is obviously a very weak man who will do what he's told.

[RandomNumbers]

99. Given the total obsequiousness of the Republicans who wield power

is it even possible for Trump to "blow" anything, in the usual sense of the word, at least as it relates to him meaningfully losing power and the world being set on a better course?

[IronLionZion]

105. Venezuela's government still exists so why would the US run their country?

Their VP Delcy Rodríguez is now their acting president. Everyone else is still in their roles in their administration.

So yes it feels like he's just making up stuff as usual.