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Long read, but certainly a valid consideration
Wife saw this on Facebook. One could easily say this is just conspiracy theory, but this sounds just as plausible as Project 2025, and we are seeing that now.
Glee Violette
People. Please. Let me say this loud and clear. IT WAS NEVER ABOUT A BALLROOM.
The East Wing was built in 1942 to disguise the simultaneous construction of an underground bunker and operations center, underneath it.
And just like then, the Ballroom being built now is a ruse. A decoy. A distraction. To cover up a new and improved bunker.
SO OF COURSE Trump did not go through the National Monuments historical preservation channels. The plans for his bunker would have been exposed to too many people. There would be no way to disguise the ballroom plans to hide it. There would be too many clues for experts to see.
Why the rush? THOSE clues are all around us, too. Fully exposed.
Trump has Congress, the DOJ, and the Supreme Court in his pocket right now, but IF elections happen next year, he WILL lose Congress.
Elections must not happen. During war-time emergencies, elections CAN BE SUSPENDED. So, there must be such an emergency.
A military coup to put down a "rebellion" would do nicely.
Hegseth has now barred both the Press and Congress from the Pentagon. And barred ALL Pentagon staff from communicating with either the Press or Congress as well.
He has also been purging the Military of any leader with even a HINT of "disloyalty". Accusations by far -right influencers like Laura Loomer have resulted in firings. He has run multiple lie-detector tests. He even has a new excuse - his recent threat to fire "fat generals". And now he is having ANY service member discharged for postings on social media mocking Charlie Kirk or other MAGA leaders.
And he and Trump have been seeing how far they can push officers to follow illegal orders by having our ships fire on and destroy boats in international waters and kill the people on board. Now, for the first time, he has had an AIRSTRIKE take out an 8th boat, killing its two occupants.
The idea that these are terrorists taking drugs to America is laughable. They do not have enough fuel. They are headed in the wrong direction, to Trinidad and Tobago for the cocaine trade. And they are not carrying fentanyl. That comes up through Central America and enters through Mexico. EVERY EXPERT KNOWS THIS.
All international laws are being ignored. These boats are not boarded. Nothing is taken in evidence. There is no identification made of the occupants. There are no arrests or charges. There is no due process for their lawful prosecution.
Most importantly, any crimes they COULD be charged for DO NOT CARRY THE DEATH PENALTY.
They are not being "executed". They are being murdered.
Trump and Hegseth are seeing JUST how loyal their new military commanding officers are, and how far they can push them to obey their illegal orders.
Will they kill random people if Trump says they are foreign criminals and terrorists?
Will they kill the SAME foreigners in OUR country, if Trump says they are criminals and terrorists?
Will they kill ANY foreign immigrants on his orders?
Will they kill US?
Trump said Hegseth should use our own cities as "training grounds" for the Military. He has attempted to send troops into several cities with Democratic mayors, and has even said out loud he wanted them to use full strength. That means live ammunition. On our own people.
And they are also arming Homeland Security and ICE. Federal purchasing logs show ICE spent $71,515,762 on "small arms, ordnance, and ordnance accessories," including military supplies, weapons, and ammunition, in the nine months between Jan. 20 and Oct. 18, according to the Daily Beast.
While ICE denies a viral report that the purchases included "guided missile warheads", the codes on what WAS purchased are unclear. For instance, "chemical weapons" could refer to tear gas and pepper balls. Or...
What IS clear is THIS. Trump keeps "floating" a declaration of the Insurrection Act almost every single day. He threatens the military invasion of American cities almost every single day.
He and his VP and his cabinet heads and the Republican leaders of the House and Senate have upped their rhetoric of ALL Democrats being the "enemy within" and "antifa terrorists" and "Hamas (as in, non-Christian foreign agents) and "radical violent lunatics" - intended to make MAGA folks in "red states" fear and hate the people in "blue states".
The whole idea of red states and blue states is nonsense - most statewide elections are pretty close - not only are our states pretty evenly divided between Democrats and Republicans, so are our communities and even our own families.
But the rhetoric becomes ever more sensationalized
and unhinged, day by day. Trump has been
planning on taking and KEEPING the presidency
from the moment he lost the 2020 election. THAT
is why January 6th happened.
The riot was a last ditch effort to STOP the certification of the election that was going on in the Capitol, after the scheme to replace official state electors with slates of FAKE electors failed, and Vice President Pence refused to go along with Trump's order to overturn the election.
-Trump will use ANY means - ANY MEANS - to hold on to the office this time around. He has proven that. He has three goals that motivate him personal power, wealth, and revenge. Nothing he does is for the MAGA folks - they are just his pawns. And he is not here to make America "great" but to PLUNDER it and OWN it.
So, there must be NO midterm elections next year. For that he needs war-time conditions. And that wa will be RIGHT HERE. So he needs himself a proper bunker. Not the 60 year old WWII bunker he hid in last time. A lavish, opulent, HUGE bunker, in the style to which he has become accustomed.
Oh, and the Ballroom he is building over it will be a nice place to serve as a proper Great Hall and Throne Room, afterwards, in order to receive tributes from future supplicants, as well.
Aristus
(71,162 posts)A huge, gaudy, messy construction project covered by all the news outlets? To disguise a building project going on directly underneath it? Wouldn't it make more sense to draw attention away from the White House?
littlemissmartypants
(30,427 posts)I might agree with you. But he sincerely believes that he's bulletproof (figuratively) and he isn't very smart. Even if we tried to convince him that it's a bad idea he's going to push the naysayers out of the way like a head of state in a crowd going to a photo op.
Shipwack
(2,889 posts)The only pics Ive seen are the same few ones from Treasury office workers.
I keep seeing the same five seconds of the backhoe tearing down a wall.
Are there any boots on the ground by reporters?
Its easier to use the building of a ballroom as an excuse than explain why there are all these construction materials going in and dirt is coming out with nothing being built.
EYESORE 9001
(29,197 posts)How about the Taj Mahal? His recent obsession with his mortality makes me wonder if he wants to be entombed there. Charge $100 bucks a head to gawk at a gilded sarcophagus. Urine-proofed, of course.
leftstreet
(37,718 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(21,111 posts)Elections were held during the Civil war, and every other war, and in the aftermath of 9/11.
States run the elections, and president has no power over them (notice how his EO banning mail in ballots has been ignored by the states?)
To those in the reality based community who want to resist and fight back against this fascist regime, I implore you to ignore posts like this containing defeatist nonsense, and remember this one absolute truth:
Trump is not omnipotent, and the states and the people are not powerless
yardwork
(68,389 posts)I think the OP made some good points.
Also, many state elections are controlled by hard-line Republicans. North Carolina, for instance. Our extremist right wing Republican state legislature seized control of the state elections board, which was supposed to independent and bi-partisan. No longer. The legislature just rammed through a completely undemocratic gerrymandered new elections map that ensures yet another Republican representative to Congress. We're a purple state (Democratic governor, etc) but on paper we look like a Republican stronghold because the GOP made sure of it.
Fiendish Thingy
(21,111 posts)NC would then forfeit their representation in congress, making it easier for Dems to gain the majority.
There will be much ratfuckery and general chicanery in the next 13 months, but none of it will involve canceling elections.
yardwork
(68,389 posts)They're in it for the money and they'll do whatever it takes.
Fiendish Thingy
(21,111 posts)Cmon, take a stand - either you think they would go that far, or they wouldnt.
BWdem4life
(2,817 posts)But it is entirely possible. It makes sense to me, given what I know about tRump.
Norrrm
(3,214 posts)Napoleon Bonaparte famously crowned himself Emperor of the French on December 2, 1804, in a grand ceremony at Notre-Dame Cathedral in Paris, rather than having Pope Pius VII place the crown on his head. This act symbolized that his authority came from himself and the people, not from the Church, asserting political power over the Pope. He then crowned his wife, Josephine, as Empress.
Symbolic gesture: By placing the crown on his own head, Napoleon demonstrated his power and authority as a self-made ruler. This broke with centuries of tradition where monarchs were traditionally crowned by the Pope.
Legitimizing his rule: The coronation was a political statement designed to legitimize his rule, establish a new imperial dynasty, and show his power to both the French people and other European powers.
A new kind of monarchy: The ceremony was a blend of traditional and revolutionary elements, including an oath to uphold the gains of the French Revolution, such as political and civil liberties.
The location: The event took place at the Notre-Dame Cathedral in Paris, a departure from the traditional coronation site of Reims Cathedral.
The artwork: The scene was famously immortalized in the painting The Coronation of Napoleon by the artist Jacques-Louis David.

Champp
(2,393 posts)littlemissmartypants
(30,427 posts)But a lot of speculation. It probably made the person who wrote it feel better. Doesn't work for me.
But thanks for sharing it, Golfnbrew. ❤️
Hope22
(4,241 posts)Im not sure its a ballroom either. I think its the new home of his new government and he will wipe the Capitol off the map. He will have everyone within arms reach.
gfarber
(130 posts)The East Wing, they said, was a hall,
But the truth wasnt that at all
Beneath all the plaster,
A secret went faster
A bunker beneath every ball.
Now Trump builds a Ballroom with flair,
While whispers are thick in the air.
Dont peek at the ground,
You wont like whats found
Theres power, not parties, down there.
A ruler whod rather not fall,
Digs deeper beneath every wall.
Democracys quaint,
Hell sneer with constraint,
Down here, I make every call.
He purged every general and clerk,
Called disloyal those slow to his work.
With lie tests and rage,
He cleaned out the stage
A tyrant with Twitter for quirk.
Theyre sinking small boats on command,
In waters they barely had planned.
Theyre drug lords! he cries,
But everyone sighs
Their compass points right to dry land.
Elections? he growled. What a bore.
Well just have ourselves a small war.
Declare some unrest,
Suspend all the rest
And reign till forever, or more!
So over the bunker hell preen,
A ballroom all gilded and clean.
The chandeliers glow,
While few down below,
Know what the façade really means.
The music will swell and enthrall,
As dancers waltz under his thrall.
But listen for thunder
The truth lies down under
It was never about a ballroom at all.
Gaugamela
(3,065 posts)GoCubsGo
(34,485 posts)and weld the damn doors shut.
Initech
(106,634 posts)travelingthrulife
(3,588 posts)HAB911
(10,009 posts)shoots himself?
Bayard
(27,485 posts)Some ideas that appeal to the current paranoid in me.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,803 posts)"The East Wing was built in 1942 to disguise the simultaneous construction of an underground bunker and operations center, underneath it."
Ooooh! How conspiracy-ish!
That's all I need to read.
Wonder whose Facebook account this is from. Glee Violette? I'm sorry, but
Initech
(106,634 posts)Hannity will be using it to conduct his performance evaluations with the senators and Congress people who are on Murdoch's payroll.