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Botany

(75,636 posts)
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:22 AM Yesterday

Please tell me this is all a bad dream.

Trump is is tearing down the East Wing of the White House in order to build an unneeded
ballroom that is almost 50% larger than the original White House and the first drawings
of the interior of the building has shit tons of gold crap.*

Where are the crowds with pitchforks and torches?


* https://democraticunderground.com/100220742593

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Please tell me this is all a bad dream. (Original Post) Botany Yesterday OP
The psyop has entered the real world with stormtroopers and collaborators galore. rzemanfl Yesterday #1
Felon-47 could destroy every monument in DC 31st Street Bridge Yesterday #31
He literally enjoys when his actions hurt Democrats. n/t forgotmylogin 21 hrs ago #41
The majority of Americans appear to like it or don't care. Irish_Dem Yesterday #2
We will deserve our demise. LuvLoogie Yesterday #3
We found out it was all a house of cards, a mirage. Irish_Dem Yesterday #4
Held together by SOME far B.See Yesterday #6
They assumed people would always want to be free. Irish_Dem Yesterday #8
Hate to say it but it is a twisted Karma visiting us IbogaProject Yesterday #35
I will never for a second believe this country honestly & fairly elected him. BComplex 19 hrs ago #43
I agree. Irish_Dem 19 hrs ago #44
He had help from friends in low places. czarjak 11 hrs ago #53
No We Don't, Despite the USA's flaws. A serious % of us still try to improve it! electric_blue68 Yesterday #32
I hear you. I just don't think we are up to it collectively as a people. LuvLoogie 23 hrs ago #37
Facts are facts. A majority of the US population loves Trump or doesn't care. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #49
Yes markodochartaigh 17 hrs ago #47
They will pay a very high price for their slumber. Irish_Dem 8 hrs ago #55
Our silence is his favorite sound Farmer-Rick Yesterday #5
"protests every week.......you know in the end we will have to have them every day." Botany Yesterday #13
that's sorta' how I started a protest NJCher Yesterday #19
Good on you! electric_blue68 Yesterday #33
Absolutely! yellow dahlia Yesterday #26
I was listening to Dr. Gartner about Trump's mental condition-- viva la Yesterday #7
he's the guy from Shrinking Trump NJCher Yesterday #20
This message was self-deleted by its author yellow dahlia Yesterday #27
Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere... Escape Yesterday #9
No. I mentioned in another thread hoping the artifacts were labeled and stored safely so they txwhitedove Yesterday #14
A thing that I haven't seen mentioned is markodochartaigh 17 hrs ago #48
The pot of water is boiling Martin Eden Yesterday #10
We are eating cake Puppyjive Yesterday #11
He also wants to build himself an arch Ohioboy Yesterday #12
We are going to need warriors to stop that nonsense. A human shield if you like. Botany Yesterday #15
Oh, That Arch Will Be Built ColoringFool Yesterday #16
Yes, we are enduring a continual living nightmare. ananda Yesterday #17
Last night I looked at CNN briefly and saw yorkster Yesterday #18
Once El Trumpi departs... BH liberal Yesterday #21
And don't forget he is demanding $230 million for all the pain and suffering he experienced with the kimbutgar Yesterday #22
His serious mental decline is on display for only asking for $230 million. rubbersole Yesterday #23
"Where are the crowds with pitchforks and torches?" Wednesdays Yesterday #24
Once the supposed conservatives realize what is going on, yellow dahlia Yesterday #29
Sooo, the white house still gives tours Farmer-Rick 23 hrs ago #36
Hmm...back in summer ? '93, or '94 I didn't need to contact my Congress person...I think I did go to a separate... electric_blue68 12 hrs ago #52
Yeah, I didn't go through Farmer-Rick 5 hrs ago #56
It's infuriating! electric_blue68 3 hrs ago #57
We are all bothered by this! KS Toronado Yesterday #25
Thats bdamomma Yesterday #28
Botany, you have nailed it. gab13by13 Yesterday #30
I decided a long time ago that the day Orange Julius Caesar won the 2016 election that we had been hurled generalbetrayus Yesterday #34
Democrats need to run on tearing down the grotesque ballroom. SleeplessinSoCal 22 hrs ago #38
Where are the 'centrists?' nt RandiFan1290 22 hrs ago #39
Mel Brooks, "It's good to be da king" BigmanPigman 21 hrs ago #40
It's alright... (sarcasm alert) Half-step 21 hrs ago #42
By now, any street protests ancianita 18 hrs ago #45
anytime... myohmy2 17 hrs ago #46
Working people are too busy holding down 2 jobs to pay for a pound of hamburger. SunSeeker 13 hrs ago #50
He's flooding the world with hate, lies, chaos, crimes, violence and stupidity. ... Bread and Circuses 13 hrs ago #51
Not even George Orwell could have imagined this nightmare scenario. Bluepinky 9 hrs ago #54

rzemanfl

(30,948 posts)
1. The psyop has entered the real world with stormtroopers and collaborators galore.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:25 AM
Yesterday

These people need to be stopped.

31. Felon-47 could destroy every monument in DC
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:29 PM
Yesterday

...and nothing would be done. It's obvious that nothing short of revolution or mass secession will stop this assault on this former-nation. Signs and frog costumes didn't defeat Hitler.

Irish_Dem

(76,615 posts)
2. The majority of Americans appear to like it or don't care.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:34 AM
Yesterday

30% love Trump and whatever he does is great with them.
30% don't care in the least.
30% care but have no power.

Irish_Dem

(76,615 posts)
4. We found out it was all a house of cards, a mirage.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:54 AM
Yesterday

Held together with spit and a prayer.

B.See

(7,127 posts)
6. Held together by SOME far
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:07 AM
Yesterday

nobler people who once had a dream, founded upon ideas like principles, duty, honour, and integrity.

Things Trump and his cult of fascists, Insurrectionists, anarchists, and saboteurs know NOTHING about.

'Deplorables' doesn't quite capture their... ESSENCE.

Irish_Dem

(76,615 posts)
8. They assumed people would always want to be free.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:10 AM
Yesterday

To live in a democracy with rule of law, bill of rights, a constitution.

It did not occur to them that We The People would trash the entire system.
And elect a fascist leader.

yes greatest moral collapse in US history.

IbogaProject

(5,221 posts)
35. Hate to say it but it is a twisted Karma visiting us
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 01:37 PM
Yesterday

The USA has overturned many governments and trained many secret police. Unfortunately the wealthy who benefited of that eport of evil are not the ones receiving this "Karma". I just hope it helps some or all of the rest of the world improve towards justice and compassion with our bully country being reduced in power.

BComplex

(9,652 posts)
43. I will never for a second believe this country honestly & fairly elected him.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:00 PM
19 hrs ago

Not a chance in hell.

LuvLoogie

(8,359 posts)
37. I hear you. I just don't think we are up to it collectively as a people.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 02:24 PM
23 hrs ago

The greed and the hate just consume and destroy. I am tired of protecting hateful stupid people from the manipulations of greed, sociopaths, narcissists, and Nazis. I mean members of my own fucking extended family voted for this and are still all in, waiting for JD.
I don't care about the racist farmers, I don't care about the corporate persons. They don't even consider you human if you aren't in their corner of the DNA diaspora or can add to their bottom line. The religious and racial bigotry are as chronic and metastasized as the gun culture/violence in America.

I will go down swinging and loving. But fuck the MAGA and their officials.

And fuck the Super Bowl. It's a Bad Bunny concert.

Irish_Dem

(76,615 posts)
49. Facts are facts. A majority of the US population loves Trump or doesn't care.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:45 PM
17 hrs ago

One third of the US population voted for Trump. They like him and his crimes.
One third didn't vote at all, they don't give a damn.
One third voted for Harris.

So 2/3rds of the US population like Trump or don't care either way.
This is a majority of the US population.

markodochartaigh

(4,437 posts)
47. Yes
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:35 PM
17 hrs ago

this is the sort of bad dream a country has when one third of the electorate has been asleep.

Farmer-Rick

(12,192 posts)
5. Our silence is his favorite sound
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:59 AM
Yesterday

He wants silent submission to all his demented ideas. I think we need protests every week.......you know in the end we will have to have them every day.

Botany

(75,636 posts)
13. "protests every week.......you know in the end we will have to have them every day."
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:33 AM
Yesterday

Yup! I am going to stand on a street corner (E.N. Broadway and High Street in Columbus, OH @ noon
today) with my American Flag. We need to use the American Flag as our symbol of resistance and real patriotism.

NJCher

(41,817 posts)
19. that's sorta' how I started a protest
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:04 AM
Yesterday

It was back when the rw nutz were harrassing the daylights out of Clinton. I went to the streets of downtown Newark with a sign and people joined me. Never mind their signs were made from a flap off a cardboard box, it was their presence that counted.

yellow dahlia

(3,644 posts)
26. Absolutely!
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:51 AM
Yesterday

I say the same thing. Take back our symbols of patriotism.

I also think we need to keep the protests and visibility up. One or a few people is still a visibility event.

Mr. Dahlia and I attend a rally once week. We have been doing so since April.

I don't know anybody in Columbus - if I did I would suggest they join you.

viva la

(4,350 posts)
7. I was listening to Dr. Gartner about Trump's mental condition--
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:08 AM
Yesterday

And he said that the next step would be for Trump to start doing catastrophic things because of his delusions of grandeur and dementia and sadism-- like taking out fishing boats with bombs. The sudden and unapproved destruction of the East Wing is another one. AND NO ONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE OR CONGRESS IS STOPPING HIM.

Response to viva la (Reply #7)

Escape

(311 posts)
9. Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere...
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:14 AM
Yesterday

but, I wonder if any important documents----you know, EVIDENCE---is being discarded or destroyed in this spontaneous destruction of government property? What all did they smash, crash and throw out the window?

Looky there...I just started a new Conspiracy Theory....

txwhitedove

(4,249 posts)
14. No. I mentioned in another thread hoping the artifacts were labeled and stored safely so they
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:36 AM
Yesterday

didn't end up at a golf course. Then again, in another thread there was a bit of a pile on by those saying it's just a building and not murdered people. I am just one old American in daily shock and grief over ALL of this lunacy.

markodochartaigh

(4,437 posts)
48. A thing that I haven't seen mentioned is
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:45 PM
17 hrs ago

the Presidential Communications Room under the East Wing. I wonder if Putin's communications experts will somehow get access to systems there.

Botany

(75,636 posts)
15. We are going to need warriors to stop that nonsense. A human shield if you like.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:54 AM
Yesterday


Ice agents are the Indians working for the British with the clubs and the protesters are the American People opposed to Trump.

ColoringFool

(7 posts)
16. Oh, That Arch Will Be Built
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:58 AM
Yesterday

Trump always telegraphs, either explicitly, implicitly, or by projection, what he is going to do.

He's already chosen his preference of the three mock-ups he was given. The largest, of course.

Here's hoping all the majestic horses in his Bigger Than Anyone's Ever funeral procession (you know there will be one) leading from the Arc de Trump to the Gilded Ballroom, defecate profusely in front of his hearse.

ananda

(33,726 posts)
17. Yes, we are enduring a continual living nightmare.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:00 AM
Yesterday

I'd have a hard time thinking of a worse sleeping one.

yorkster

(3,479 posts)
18. Last night I looked at CNN briefly and saw
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:01 AM
Yesterday

a mockup of the intended building. The picture was a closeup, so I couldn't tell if it was taken in the Offal Office. It conveyed more clearly than any rendering how massive this thing is.

As has been recently stated, it really does dwarf the White House.

BH liberal

(26 posts)
21. Once El Trumpi departs...
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:21 AM
Yesterday

how often will the ballroom even be used? Since it won't be done for a long time, will Trump even be around to christen it?

kimbutgar

(26,297 posts)
22. And don't forget he is demanding $230 million for all the pain and suffering he experienced with the
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:28 AM
Yesterday

Investigations, impeachments and convictions he experienced during his first reign of terror

rubbersole

(10,769 posts)
23. His serious mental decline is on display for only asking for $230 million.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:42 AM
Yesterday

He got the Qatari jet ($400+ million) and billions in crypto bribes from the Middle East. C'mon donnie - get your head in the game! Ft Knox is all yours!

Wednesdays

(21,121 posts)
24. "Where are the crowds with pitchforks and torches?"
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:45 AM
Yesterday

There was 8 million of us out on the streets last weekend. Even though we didn't bring pitchforks and torches.

yellow dahlia

(3,644 posts)
29. Once the supposed conservatives realize what is going on,
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:05 PM
Yesterday

I wonder if they will react with something more than inflatable frog costumes and peace signs.

They're more of the pitchfork (weaponry) type. But then they would have to admit they are wrong.

Farmer-Rick

(12,192 posts)
36. Sooo, the white house still gives tours
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 02:01 PM
23 hrs ago

You have to go through your Congress Critter to get it booked. But I don't see that being a big problem. So many people hate my Republicon members that the Congress member will be glad for the attention. Or they may sell those tours for a donation since my Congress Critters are so money hungry.

But here is the info. I want to see what damage demented pedo Trump has done. I toured the White House back in the 1980s.

Tours of The White House include the public rooms in the East Wing and the Residence, which include the Vermeil Room, the Library, the China Room, the Blue Room, Red Room, Green Room, the State Dining Room, and a view of the White House Kennedy Garden. Secret Service Officers are stationed along the tour route and are available to answer questions about each room’s history, art, furnishings, current uses, and beyond.

Reserve your tour
White House tour requests should be made through your Member of Congress, which may be submitted 7 – 90 days in advance of the requested tour date.
Tours are generally available 7:30 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. Tuesday through Thursday as well as 7:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Friday through Saturday (excluding Federal holidays or unless otherwise noted). When possible, public tour hours will be extended based on the official White House schedule.

All White House tours are free of charge.
Tour schedules may change at any time, with little notice, due to inclement weather or scheduling conflicts, even after your tour is confirmed.

You may reach your Member of Congress through the United States Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-3121 (TTY: 202-225-1904), or online at congress.gov/members.

Operating hours and timely updates can be found at the 24hr information line: 202-456-7041.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/visit/

electric_blue68

(24,491 posts)
52. Hmm...back in summer ? '93, or '94 I didn't need to contact my Congress person...I think I did go to a separate...
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 01:39 AM
12 hrs ago

small building to pick up a WH Tour tix, and then went over to (sigh) the East Wing to enter, and be checked by security. Them off to the tour.

Farmer-Rick

(12,192 posts)
56. Yeah, I didn't go through
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 08:28 AM
5 hrs ago

My congressman back in the 1980s either. I just signed up in DC when I first got there 3 days before the tour.

I was just surprised they still did tours. And I thought if I could witness the damage up close, it would mean something.

He tore down the colonnade and the Jacqueline Kennedy garden too. My heart breaks. What I would have paid for a cornice piece or medallion from the wing; maybe a bush or plant from the garden. But no, it all had to be destroyed. It all had to be bulldozed into scrap and ruins.

gab13by13

(30,213 posts)
30. Botany, you have nailed it.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:07 PM
Yesterday

It will be up to us, the people, to throw out the billionaires and hopefully, we will get a significant number of unwashed Magats to join us.

I wanted Dems to vote no to the CR back in March.

I wanted all of our social safety net protected before the government was funded. I was attacked here for being anti-Democrat.

Now Dems voted no and we only have one main issue to fight for, reimbursements to Obamacare, a worthy goal to fight for but;
Since March, Magats passed the Big Ugly Death Bill that will gut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, the VA, with worst of the cuts taking effect Dec 1, 2026, after the election.

Time Mattered.

generalbetrayus

(1,311 posts)
34. I decided a long time ago that the day Orange Julius Caesar won the 2016 election that we had been hurled
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:55 PM
Yesterday

into an evil, alternate universe that we have been unable to escape since.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,311 posts)
38. Democrats need to run on tearing down the grotesque ballroom.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 03:23 PM
22 hrs ago

I see it as an umbrella issue for all others needed for refurbishing and restoration of the Republic trashed by the Trump regime.

BigmanPigman

(54,165 posts)
40. Mel Brooks, "It's good to be da king"
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 04:09 PM
21 hrs ago

tRump is building his own Palace of Versailles He is the KING and Melania is Marie Antoinette.

The fucking moron doesn't read so maybe he should watch the film "The History of The World, Part 1".

Things don't end well for the KING and his wifey.

Half-step

(105 posts)
42. It's alright... (sarcasm alert)
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 04:39 PM
21 hrs ago

I heard that Melania wasn't really using the offices in the East Wing, anyway.

ancianita

(42,348 posts)
45. By now, any street protests
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:40 PM
18 hrs ago

make Americans feel sympathetic about the travesty of destruction, but that's it.
Trump would love to show the optics of that on his platforms.

"Where are ... pitchforks and torches?" You know why.
1. They're not allowed on WH grounds.
2. The 19th Cent. image is kinda weak.

Reality is taking him to court to make him pay for damages to the People's House.

myohmy2

(3,684 posts)
46. anytime...
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:58 PM
17 hrs ago

...the Republicans want to stop, impeach and convict trump they can but they won't because they're all part of the same fascist movement sweeping the country and world...

...until we build and have a stronger countervailing movement to meet and beat these fascists this horrendous spectacle and destruction of our country will continue unabated...sorry

...many saw this coming but few took it seriously...

...hang in there...

SunSeeker

(57,013 posts)
50. Working people are too busy holding down 2 jobs to pay for a pound of hamburger.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:56 PM
13 hrs ago

If we want to get their attention, we need to tell them how we will make their lives better. Our problem has always been getting our message out through the wall of Republican lies.

Bread and Circuses

(1,288 posts)
51. He's flooding the world with hate, lies, chaos, crimes, violence and stupidity. ...
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 12:14 AM
13 hrs ago

He and ALL republicans are evil .

We are under attack !

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