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Quixote1818

(31,098 posts)
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:13 AM Yesterday

This is so spot on about the Republican party being filled with repressed gay Christians

I've been arguing this for years. The psychology book "The Disowned Self" hits on this subject.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1ZukRvP5xb/

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In The Disowned Self, Nathaniel Branden addresses how people disown emotions, including the concept that a moral or religious code can lead to suppressing "undesirable" feelings, which he argues can be virtuous emotions mistakenly judged as negative. This process, where an individual disconnects from their authentic feelings to conform to a prescribed role, is what Branden calls the "disowned self". The book explores how this disconnection leads to self-alienation and a weak sense of self.
How religious or moral codes lead to disowned emotions
Imposing external standards: Branden suggests that individuals may adopt external rules, like those from a religious or moral code, and disown any feelings or desires that conflict with those rules.
Judging "good" emotions as "bad": A person might condemn perfectly valid emotions, such as anger or frustration, because they are seen as sinful or immoral according to the code they've adopted.
Replacing inner truth with a persona: By disowning their true feelings, individuals create an "unreal self" or a persona that conforms to the external standard. This persona becomes a mask that is mistaken for the authentic self.
Self-alienation: The disconnect between the authentic self and the adopted persona results in self-alienation, where the individual is out of touch with their own needs, feelings, and longings.
Consequences of disowning emotions
Psychological damage: Branden argues that this self-alienation is the root of many psychological problems.
Weakened self-esteem: Disowning emotions weakens the sense of self, which is counterproductive to building healthy self-esteem.
Self-sabotage: Suppressing emotions can lead to self-sabotaging behaviors and a constant feeling of not measuring up.
Lack of integrity: The internal conflict between disowned feelings and the adopted persona creates a lack of personal integrity.
Branden's solution
Self-acceptance: The path to genuine self-esteem, according to Branden, is not to force oneself to conform, but to accept and integrate all parts of the self, including those that were previously disowned.
Reclaiming the disowned self: Through introspection and practices like writing exercises, individuals can begin to confront and accept their repressed emotions and feelings to reintegrate them into their conscious self.
Emotional wisdom: Ultimately, this leads to a more authentic and integrated self that can access the wisdom and guidance of all its emotions.

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hlthe2b

(111,822 posts)
1. A lot, no doubt, but you leave out the hatred & failure-fueled resentful, self-entitled INCELS
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:19 AM
Yesterday

Chemical Bill

(2,963 posts)
8. People who never learned the give and take of relationships.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 07:07 AM
12 hrs ago

Well, they never learned the give....

BH liberal

(26 posts)
2. What we are stuck with is...
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:28 AM
Yesterday

a whole stable of Trump whores who have a variety of reasons for their whoredom...power, influence, money, infamy, dedication to theocracy as well as needing to pledge themselves to a master-guru. Unfortunately, there is a long list of motivations to go to the Dark Side of this Nightmare Farce.

mgardener

(2,204 posts)
3. I have noticed for a while now
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:30 AM
Yesterday

That those who call themselves christian, don't act like Christians.
It almost as if adopting a name or stance, absolve you from acting accordingly.



GreatGazoo

(4,228 posts)
4. Not sure that I see a point in psychologically diagnosing strangers en mass
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:32 AM
Yesterday

Being in the closet correlates strongly with having lower income.
Being active in religious organizations also correlates with low incomes.

One explanation would be that gays of lower income are more vulnerable and more likely to need to share living spaces with homophobic people.

niyad

(128,049 posts)
5. I remember Branden as being ayn rand's romantic partner and heir apparent,
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:37 AM
Yesterday

before their rather acriminious split.

3catwoman3

(27,987 posts)
6. Rand's lover while they were both married to other people...
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:49 AM
Yesterday

…who were fully aware of and accepted the affair. I read both Branden’s and how wife’s biographies - pretty sick stuff.

Clouds Passing

(6,264 posts)
7. Internal Family Systems (IFS) is an effective therapy to re-owning the disaffected parts of Self.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:59 AM
Yesterday

This country needs mass therapy sessions, not insane sermons.

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