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President Donald Trumps use of the U.S. military to kill persons on speed boats in international waters, or in territorial waters claimed by other sovereign nations all 1,500 miles from the U.S. has posed grave issues of due process.
The U.S. Constitutions guarantee of due process requires it for every person, not just Americans. The operative language of the Fifth Amendment is that No person
shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.
The Trump administration has claimed that it can kill whomever it designates as an unlawful enemy combatant it prefers the political phrase narco-terrorist and the due process it provides is the intelligence gathered by American spies and the White House analysis of that intelligence.
This secret analysis, the governments argument goes, satisfies the president that the folks he has ordered killed are engaging in serious and harmful criminal behavior, and somehow is a lawful and constitutional substitute for the jury trial and its attendant procedural protections that the Constitution commands.
https://consortiumnews.com/2025/10/23/due-process-trump-ordered-murder/
Walleye
(42,928 posts)rainy
(6,309 posts)Mossfern
(4,473 posts)It's beyond comprehension.
I'm starting to believe that he is the anti-Christ, even thought I'm not Christian.
I don't understand how anyone can support or approve of the crap he pulls.
It's not just him though.
Shipwack
(2,889 posts)I think the larger countries feel they can safely ignore hiim because they are too powerful to pick on and they can just cut the US out of any trade deals.
Not something I would bet on because it assumes that Trump is not totally batshit crazy
The smaller countries feel tries are just trying to look inconspicuous and hope someone else draws his ire.
Eventually hes going to do something so heinous that it will unify the world like nothing else has done for a long time.
muriel_volestrangler
(105,052 posts)American companies dominate the world economy. The US has a veto in the UN Security Council. The possible tools, such as sanctions against him, would initiate a global depression thanks to his reaction, and do things like cut off US military aid to Ukraine.
The US voters will have a chance to not let him get away with it in 2026, without starting a depression. And they were responsible for installing him in the first place.
choie
(6,240 posts)let us get away with invading Iraq and torture? Were the United States - were exceptional!
Ray Bruns
(5,713 posts)Javaman
(64,710 posts)who needs laws when we have dear leader to show us the way?
MaineBlueBear
(351 posts)There's no accountability anymore.
superpatriotman
(6,774 posts)ICE has been stockpiling munitions.
ICE is domestic.
ICE is preparing to use munitions domestically.
Lonestarblue
(13,016 posts)They have already imprisoned US citizens without cause, so how far is it to killing people. At least some of these ICE agents are probably J6 domestic terrorists who went to the Capitol to murder Pence and Pelosi. And now Trump and Miller have turned them loose to do whatever they want and break any law. I doubt this genie of violence can be put back in the bottle.
wolfie001
(6,346 posts)Coast Guard usually pulls alongside vessels at sea for these types of engagements. Of course, that's in OUR WATERS! Not another nation's. He's deliberately wielding this deadly power to intimidate. And our armed forces have bent to his will. And the SC has 6 POS willing to go along. Brutal and illegal.
Joinfortmill
(19,276 posts)spanone
(140,473 posts)His political party and the supreme court has designated him a god.
Until he is gone America is doomed.