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senseandsensibility

(24,185 posts)
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 06:49 PM Sep 2025

Who could have seen this coming? Mike Johnson backs off trump informant claims

According to the Washington Post twitter page, he is "backing off" the claim that trump was an informant in the epstein case.

Or, as Ron Filipkowski wrote, "Alternate headline: Johnson lied".


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Who could have seen this coming? Mike Johnson backs off trump informant claims (Original Post) senseandsensibility Sep 2025 OP
Johnson's speaking kept getting faster and faster when he was pushing that outlandish lie. Whadda tell! LOL Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #1
I didn't hear it senseandsensibility Sep 2025 #4
He kept chattering faster and faster .. Grammy23 Sep 2025 #8
Thanks for the image Brenda Sep 2025 #11
Really. Spot on! littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #14
Trying to outrun his own shadow... BattleRow Sep 2025 #13
That claim was awkward, to say the least. Ocelot II Sep 2025 #2
logic is not the MAGAts' strong suit. nt spooky3 Sep 2025 #5
Lying Mike should explain why he said it. Media, oasis Sep 2025 #3
Oh I'm sure if Biden just made some wild claim senseandsensibility Sep 2025 #6
What Lying Mike said was way off base. oasis Sep 2025 #15
Exactly "LIED"... one of the few Cha Sep 2025 #7
How does one BACK OFF that big a bombshell? Brainfodder Sep 2025 #9
It is possible Trump ratted out Epstein to cover up the fact he was laundering Russian money. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #10
Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness. usonian Sep 2025 #12
From the archives Zorro Sep 2025 #16
Mikey Boy assumed people are (even) more stupid than they actually are. It's like he wasn't even trying. Karasu Sep 2025 #17
Can you imagine if a Democratic Speaker of the House Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #18
Mike is definitely...tRump's 'Little Johnson'. SeattleVet Sep 2025 #19
And that lie didn't square w the "it"s a hoax" lie IbogaProject Sep 2025 #20
He only needed to muddy the waters for his lord and savior, Trump. progressoid Sep 2025 #21

Attilatheblond

(8,088 posts)
1. Johnson's speaking kept getting faster and faster when he was pushing that outlandish lie. Whadda tell! LOL
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 06:52 PM
Sep 2025

Does he think if he lies fast enough, Jeebus and Father won't notice?

senseandsensibility

(24,185 posts)
4. I didn't hear it
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 06:53 PM
Sep 2025

because I can't stand to listen to him and I know everything is a lie just like trump's rants.

Grammy23

(6,082 posts)
8. He kept chattering faster and faster ..
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 06:59 PM
Sep 2025

Trying to outrun the stink of his own lies, huh, Mikey??

Ocelot II

(128,732 posts)
2. That claim was awkward, to say the least.
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 06:52 PM
Sep 2025

It's pretty hard to be an informant and still claim you weren't involved and don't know anything.

senseandsensibility

(24,185 posts)
6. Oh I'm sure if Biden just made some wild claim
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 06:55 PM
Sep 2025

off the top of his head and then "backed off", the press would be equally understanding.

oasis

(53,268 posts)
15. What Lying Mike said was way off base.
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 08:41 PM
Sep 2025

The press should have busted his ass when he first said that.

Cha

(316,293 posts)
7. Exactly "LIED"... one of the few
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 06:58 PM
Sep 2025

clips I watched.. mikey saying the Traitor was an informant for the FBI on Epstein.

Zorro

(18,292 posts)
16. From the archives
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 08:51 PM
Sep 2025
Think Whitey Bulger. Trump may have been an FBI CI on mob and Russian activities, which may have been why he has avoided charges of criminal behavior since the 80s. And of course he wouldn't admit to it for obvious reasons...

IN THE EARLY 1980s it was decided—by whom, and for what ultimate purpose, we can’t say for sure—that Donald John Trump would build a casino complex in Atlantic City, New Jersey—probably the most mobbed-up municipality in the state. Dealing with the mafia might have dissuaded some developers from pursuing a Boardwalk Empire, but not Trump. He was uniquely suited to forge ahead.

Donald’s father, the Queens real estate developer Fred Trump, had worked closely with Genovese-associated and -owned construction entities since building the Shore Haven development in 1947, when Donald was still in diapers (the first time around). Fred was an early mob adopter, the underworld equivalent of an investor who bought shares of Coca-Cola stock in 1919. The timelines is important to remember here. Organized crime did not exist in any meaningful way in the United States until Prohibition. Born in 1905, Fred Trump was just two years younger than Meyer Lansky, the gangster who more or less invented money laundering. Thus, Donald Trump is second generation mobbed-up.

When Donald first ventured from Queens to the pizzazzier borough of Manhattan in the seventies, he entered into a joint business deal with “Big” Paul Castellano, head of the Gambino syndicate, and Anthony “Fat Tony” Salerno, of the Genovese family he knew well through his father and their mutual lawyer Roy Cohn. As part of this arrangement, Trump agreed to buy concrete from a company operated jointly by the two families—and pay a hefty premium for the privilege. Only then, with double mob approval, could he move forward with the Trump Tower and Trump Plaza projects. (Among Cohn’s other clients at the time was Rupert Murdoch, whom he introduced to Trump in the seventies; you would be hard pressed to find three more atrocious human beings).

Atlantic City is in South Jersey, closer to Philadelphia than New York, so to build “his” casino, Trump needed to play ball with the Philly mob. That meant dealing with Nicodemo “Little Nicky” Scarfo, head of the most powerful mob family in Philadelphia. Land that Trump needed for his casino was owned by Salvie Testa and Frank Narducci, Jr.—hit men for Scarfo, collectively known around town as the Young Executioners (the nickname was not ironic). To help negotiate the deal, Trump hired Patrick McGahn, a Philly-based attorney known to have truck with the Scarfo family.

https://gregolear.substack.com/p/tinker-tailor-mobster-trump

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
17. Mikey Boy assumed people are (even) more stupid than they actually are. It's like he wasn't even trying.
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 09:02 PM
Sep 2025

Prairie Gates

(7,047 posts)
18. Can you imagine if a Democratic Speaker of the House
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 09:05 PM
Sep 2025

claimed that a sitting Democratic President had been an FBI informant in a criminal matter? The absolute nonstop press coverage of that! It would be the scandal of the century.

Oh, he "backed off" the claim?



Our press is ridiculous. Ridiculous. Where's Jake Tapper, that fucking dirtbag?

IbogaProject

(5,524 posts)
20. And that lie didn't square w the "it"s a hoax" lie
Sun Sep 7, 2025, 09:24 PM
Sep 2025

So we should just assume the worse that he raped underage girls and worse. Afterall all he offers in defense are conflicting lies.

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