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WiVoter

(1,369 posts)
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:34 PM Jul 14

If Maxwell Is Willing To Testify, Can She Be Trusted?

I’ve read that Trump said he wouldn’t pardon her, but we all know that is bullshit. My guess is that if she does testify, she will say he’s not in it and will get her pardon. The other option is if she testifies says Trump is on the list, and her life will be in danger. Where do you think this will go?

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If Maxwell Is Willing To Testify, Can She Be Trusted? (Original Post) WiVoter Jul 14 OP
A person who traffics minor children to the rich cannot be trusted to tell the truth. Irish_Dem Jul 14 #1
Doesn't matter if she is viewed as being credible newdeal2 Jul 14 #6
Knowing everything and telling everything are two different things tinrobot Jul 14 #20
Yes she knows all the details. This is not the issue. Irish_Dem Jul 14 #21
I agree WiVoter Jul 14 #15
I believe, absolutely not, the false story and documents are being drafted as we speak Eliot Rosewater Jul 14 #2
What about Julie Brown? johnnyfins Jul 14 #14
She will be called a liar by the maga idiots Eliot Rosewater Jul 14 #16
🙄😖🤐 Wiz Imp Jul 14 #28
Yup, The Ol Deny, Deflect & Destroy Trick WiVoter Jul 14 #17
Exactly awesomerwb1 Jul 14 #22
Always Eliot Rosewater Jul 14 #25
Let me add a separate comment, we will know if it's the truth Eliot Rosewater Jul 14 #3
Where is her little black book? MrWowWow Jul 14 #4
Of course she isn't reliable. RockRaven Jul 14 #5
First order of business when Democrats regain control of the House in '26: Epstein Hearings. sop Jul 14 #7
Absolutely WiVoter Jul 14 #18
What if Melania begins to talk Beachnutt Jul 14 #8
No, but... Mike 03 Jul 14 #9
"As long as she has anything to gain by lying, she cannot be trusted." TheProle Jul 14 #13
Not happening. H2O Man Jul 14 #10
She's a nasty piece of work and you might not want to trust her word, but Ocelot II Jul 14 #11
He's not going to pardon her. Not with the way MAGA is reacting. Not gonna happen. tulipsandroses Jul 14 #12
Not my circus. Not my monkeys. Torchlight Jul 14 #19
Traitor already told the world he's on a fabricated list made up by Obama Arazi Jul 14 #23
I think she'd see her only hope to survive is to protect Trump. blm Jul 14 #24
Ah nope. a kennedy Jul 14 #26
As a juror I would need to see what she said backed up by documents dsc Jul 14 #27

newdeal2

(3,417 posts)
6. Doesn't matter if she is viewed as being credible
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:40 PM
Jul 14

She is a monster but that doesn’t mean she doesn’t remember facts or dates. She knows everything that went on with Epstein.

tinrobot

(11,646 posts)
20. Knowing everything and telling everything are two different things
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 06:01 PM
Jul 14

Which version of the "truth" will she tell?

The one that gets her sent back to prison or the one that gets her a pardon?

Irish_Dem

(72,465 posts)
21. Yes she knows all the details. This is not the issue.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 06:09 PM
Jul 14

The issue is whether she will cough them up in an accurate and honest way.

WiVoter

(1,369 posts)
15. I agree
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:51 PM
Jul 14

I had a RW acquaintance, with a goddamn Newsmax story that said she was willing to testify and said that Trump wasn’t on the list. I’ve countered him on that bullshit. Think I’m gonna block him at long last.

Eliot Rosewater

(33,186 posts)
2. I believe, absolutely not, the false story and documents are being drafted as we speak
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:37 PM
Jul 14

That will claim the piece of shit was never anywhere to be found around this, but Bill Clinton was other and famous Democrats or progressive, etc.

Not a fucking word of it will be true, but since the piece of shit and his pieces of shit control everything and I mean everything including the Department of Justice, the FBI oh my God fucking everything they will do anything they want and we will just have to fucking Put up with it or…..😡😡😡😡

johnnyfins

(2,438 posts)
14. What about Julie Brown?
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:51 PM
Jul 14

The Miami Herald reporter who looked at the case files extensively. She will recognize forged docs in a second.

Eliot Rosewater

(33,186 posts)
16. She will be called a liar by the maga idiots
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:53 PM
Jul 14

And the courts will be used to destroy her since they are controlled by a fascist dictator.

She would probably be arrested immediately by the FBI.

WiVoter

(1,369 posts)
17. Yup, The Ol Deny, Deflect & Destroy Trick
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:53 PM
Jul 14

Which is sadly effective. Maybe someone should try that on him.

Eliot Rosewater

(33,186 posts)
3. Let me add a separate comment, we will know if it's the truth
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:38 PM
Jul 14

If she identifies piece of shit as being the one with Epstein, doing these things, any other comment from her will be an outright fucking lie.

MrWowWow

(597 posts)
4. Where is her little black book?
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:38 PM
Jul 14

Compare its contents with whatever other lists that exists. By now though, whatever 💩 got his hands on has either been altered or destroyed.

RockRaven

(17,625 posts)
5. Of course she isn't reliable.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:39 PM
Jul 14

Recall that a story leaked that The Dotard had had discussions about whether or not to pardon her, during which he was worried what she could say about him, but was convinced not to.

THEN the story comes that she is willing to testify. That order of events matters.

That first leak wasn't necessarily an embarrassing exposure of something The Dotard wanted secret. Perhaps it was planted by his people as a trial balloon, as a hint to Maxwell for what the conditions of getting a pardon would be -- namely silence about The Dotard.

sop

(15,221 posts)
7. First order of business when Democrats regain control of the House in '26: Epstein Hearings.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:44 PM
Jul 14

Let the chips fall where they may.

Mike 03

(18,568 posts)
9. No, but...
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:45 PM
Jul 14

As long as she has anything to gain by lying, she cannot be trusted. But one good thing is that Elon Musk seems to know what is actually in the files, and she knows that he knows--possibly would make her slightly less likely to lie. And this hinges on whether or not Musk actually knows the contents of the file, or whether he is bluffing. My gut feeling is Musk is familiar with the damaging information in the files and probably has that material (copies, of course), but does he know the minute details?

TheProle

(3,513 posts)
13. "As long as she has anything to gain by lying, she cannot be trusted."
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:48 PM
Jul 14

This is the crux of the matter, as it almost always is with testimony of the incarcerated.

H2O Man

(77,373 posts)
10. Not happening.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:46 PM
Jul 14

She is appealing her conviction. She needs to show that her constitutional rights were violated, that there was misconduct on the prosecutor's part, or that the is startling new evidence proving her to be innocent. Zero chance there.

Who and why would she be called to testify against? The felon & maga administration sought to tie the Democratic Party to Epstein by releasing selective files they were convinced existed. But they don't. Surprise, surprise! Epstein is not a dead chicken that a farmer could hang around the party's neck. So who would she testify against?

Ocelot II

(126,066 posts)
11. She's a nasty piece of work and you might not want to trust her word, but
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:46 PM
Jul 14

does she have evidence to back up what she says? I have no doubt that if she does have hard evidence, she also has a dead-man's switch in place - that is, any such evidence is in the custody of a third person who has been told to provide it to the media if anything happens to her - and that Trump and his minions know the dead-man's switch exists. If she's been promised a pardon or a commutation, she can leave the country to avoid being prosecuted for perjury, and she'll also be safe if she decides to spill the real beans later.

tulipsandroses

(7,689 posts)
12. He's not going to pardon her. Not with the way MAGA is reacting. Not gonna happen.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:47 PM
Jul 14

This congress will not have her testify.
Where will this go?? trump loses some of his MAGAnuts - He will still have a strong base but enough will abandon him to affect other republicans.
As far as Maxwell, I won't be surprised if she has a heart attack, stroke - it can't be another suicide.

Torchlight

(5,138 posts)
19. Not my circus. Not my monkeys.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:58 PM
Jul 14

But boy oh boy! am I ever munching on popcorn watching them point fingers, "He's a pedo! She's a pedo! I have lists of pedos! There is no there there! There is no is there! There is no plusible deniability there!"

I think it will go as far as the Qtip-weirdos push in his ear. I think the establishment would rather let this play out by proxy.

Arazi

(8,171 posts)
23. Traitor already told the world he's on a fabricated list made up by Obama
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 07:01 PM
Jul 14

And Hillary.

Ghislaine Maxwell has got to be laughing her ass off in prison.

How can she top that?! 😂

dsc

(53,030 posts)
27. As a juror I would need to see what she said backed up by documents
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 07:21 PM
Jul 14

because, no I wouldn't trust her.

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