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Joinfortmill

(18,615 posts)
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:36 PM Jul 14

'OMG! Ghislaine GOES NUCLEAR as Trump COVERS IT UP'



'MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on how Donald Trump’s latest rant may have provided Ghislaine with a golden ticket to get a retrial in her criminal conviction as Trump seeks to further cover up his dark past.'


My words: Tick Tock...Stay Tuned...

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'OMG! Ghislaine GOES NUCLEAR as Trump COVERS IT UP' (Original Post) Joinfortmill Jul 14 OP
She was convicted of federal charges, so I'm starting to smell a pardon in the works. Vinca Jul 14 #1
THat would be all well and good sboatcar Jul 14 #2
Some people grease the palm with bitcoin, others with silence. Vinca Jul 14 #10
As long as her evidence is hidden Dave says Jul 14 #18
That Pardon would be one Pardon MAGA would not appreciate. enough Jul 14 #7
Gee, I Hope She Doesn't Mr.Bee Jul 14 #3
THIS malaise Jul 14 #8
WoW Mr.Bee Jul 14 #15
If Maxwell is smart - and I think she is - she'll take Trump's pardon/commutation, Ocelot II Jul 14 #4
She probably put her 'dead man's switch'* in place long ago and that is likely why she is still alive Attilatheblond Jul 14 #6
I'm shocked at Epstein didn't have that. JanMichael Jul 14 #20
Personally, I think she was the brains of the operation. Attilatheblond Jul 14 #21
Monster man may make her get out of jail card contingent on her going back to UK. nt allegorical oracle Jul 14 #11
LOL, Prince Andrew is probably in a cold sweat just thinking about that possibility! Attilatheblond Jul 14 #22
She can argue that since "there is no list" per AG Blondie Bondi BoRaGard Jul 14 #16
"I wish her well." Kid Berwyn Jul 14 #5
And Epstein had connections to the Russian mob Strelnikov_ Jul 14 #13
Agree. You might enjoy Craig Unger... Kid Berwyn Jul 14 #14
She should have someone watching her back, I think. MineralMan Jul 14 #9
She's not talking - her dad, Robert Maxwell "slipped" off his yacht - "the Lady Ghislaine" womanofthehills Jul 14 #19
"I wish her well" and "The lists don't exist" bucolic_frolic Jul 14 #12
I know how upset anyone would be if convicted RubyRose Jul 14 #17
Maybe here? usaf-vet Jul 14 #23

sboatcar

(628 posts)
2. THat would be all well and good
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:39 PM
Jul 14

But once she's pardoned, there's nothing stopping her from releasing it all anyway

Dave says

(5,187 posts)
18. As long as her evidence is hidden
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:53 PM
Jul 14

And Trump knows it’s hidden, she won’t fall out of any windows. Possibly money flows her way, too.

Post pardon, if she releases what, if anything, she has (in possession of her lawyers?), there is retributive incentive for Trump to let his MAGA and others run free. Her life would be in danger.

Ocelot II

(126,107 posts)
4. If Maxwell is smart - and I think she is - she'll take Trump's pardon/commutation,
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:49 PM
Jul 14

and leave the country as fast as she can, and she'll leave whatever evidence she has in the hands of a lawyer or other confidant with instructions to turn it over to the media if "anything happens" to her.

Attilatheblond

(6,732 posts)
6. She probably put her 'dead man's switch'* in place long ago and that is likely why she is still alive
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:53 PM
Jul 14

*if the person turns up missing or dead, the person(S) she gave documentation to blows the whistle and unleashes hell on those child rapists Epstein and she set up as their personal bankers.

Attilatheblond

(6,732 posts)
21. Personally, I think she was the brains of the operation.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:40 PM
Jul 14

Pilot, has her dad's submarine and knows how to skipper that. She isn't stupid. She had alternate routes planned out. Epstein just seemed arrogant and convinced he was on top of things.

BoRaGard

(6,429 posts)
16. She can argue that since "there is no list" per AG Blondie Bondi
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:23 PM
Jul 14

that she's been locked up under false pretenses. Retrial.

Kid Berwyn

(21,388 posts)
5. "I wish her well."
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:52 PM
Jul 14

Epstein's brother said Jeffrey introduced the first couple, who first copulated aboard one of Jeffrey's jets.

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU08/20250227/117951/HHRG-119-JU08-20250227-SD006-U6.pdf



"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."


Strelnikov_

(8,010 posts)
13. And Epstein had connections to the Russian mob
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 03:56 PM
Jul 14

My theory for a while has been that Melanoma was planted by the Russian mob to keep tabs on Dumb Donnie, let them know if something was amiss.

At some point Dumb Donnie found out. That’s why he is afraid of her.

Kid Berwyn

(21,388 posts)
14. Agree. You might enjoy Craig Unger...
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 03:59 PM
Jul 14


Did the FBI’s Charles McGonigal Help Throw the 2016 Election to Trump?

The shocking indictments against the former head of counterintelligence for the FBI in New York raise many dark questions.


By Craig Unger
The National Review, February 1, 2023

In the course of writing two books on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia, the same question occurred to me again and again: How is it possible that I knew all sorts of stuff about Donald Trump, and the FBI didn’t seem to have a clue? Or if they did, why weren’t they doing anything with it?

Specifically, I knew that:

* Starting in 1980, an alleged “spotter agent” for the KGB began cultivating Trump as a new asset for Soviet intelligence.

* The Russian mafia laundered millions of dollars through Donald Trump’s real estate by purchasing condos in all-cash transactions through anonymous corporations that did not disclose real ownership.

* Trump Tower was a home away from home for Vyacheslav Ivankov, one of the most brutal leaders of the Russian mafia, and at least 13 people with known or alleged links to the mafia held the deeds to, lived in, or ran alleged criminal operations out of Trump Tower in New York or other Trump properties.

* Trump was some $4 billion in debt when the Russians came to bail him out via the Bayrock Group, a real estate firm that was largely staffed, owned, and financed by Soviet émigrés who had ties to Russian intelligence and/or organized crime.


Much of my material came from FBI documents. A lot came from open-source databases. It made no sense. There was an astounding amount of data on the public record. The FBI had launched enormous investigations of the Russian mafia in the 1980s. They had staked out a New York electronics store that was a haven for KGB officers. They knew that’s where the Trump Organization bought hundreds of TV sets. They had their eyes on Ivankov and other Russian mobsters who were denizens of Trump’s casinos and bought and sold his condos through shell companies. They had to know that Trump laundered money for and provided a base of operations for the Russian mafia, which was, after all, a de facto state actor tied to Russian intelligence. They had to know that the Russians repeatedly bailed Trump out when he was bankrupt. They had to know that Russia owned him.

Snip…

As FBI director, Freeh had warned that Russian organized crime posed a grave threat to the United States that far transcended mere criminality. It is not clear how much he was paid by Prevezon after he switched sides, but Freeh later bought a $9.38 million mansion in Palm Beach, Florida, just a 10-minute drive from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago.

Then there was the late James Kallstrom, who ran the FBI’s New York office in the mid-’90s and oversaw successful investigations into both the Italian Mafia and later the Russian mob. Kallstrom had developed close friendships with two key players in the Trump-Russia saga. He worked closely with then–U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York Rudy Giuliani in the investigation of the Cosa Nostra network that led to the famed Mafia Commission Trial of 1985–1986. Going even further back, Kallstrom had also been friends with Donald Trump since around 1973, when Kallstrom was putting together a Trump-funded parade in New York to honor Vietnam veterans.

Continues…

https://newrepublic.com/article/170328/charles-mcgonigal-throw-2016-election

Unger has been on to the BFEE gangsters since they were in business with the bin Laden clan.

womanofthehills

(10,038 posts)
19. She's not talking - her dad, Robert Maxwell "slipped" off his yacht - "the Lady Ghislaine"
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:00 PM
Jul 14

So her boyfriend and dad got unalived. Doubt she will talk. And, in April, Virginia Giuffre died by "suicide" after telling us multiple times she was not suicidal.

Now we have Republicans going against Trump saying they are not suicidal - Candice Owens says she's happy with her family and not suicidal, Tucker says he's not suicidal etc

RubyRose

(301 posts)
17. I know how upset anyone would be if convicted
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:25 PM
Jul 14

Of what she was and then hear there weren’t any clients.

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