"There are people who f**k chickens"

[PCIntern]

This was my father‘s response when I came home from high school one day, shocked that something had happened. I cannot even remember what it was, but as a high school student, I thought it was a very big deal and some kind of violation of something. He quite plainly said to me, “nothing should ever shock you, remember there are people who fuck chickens.“

These people involved in these sexual and predatory cults participate in activities that the vast majority of us cannot begin to conceive of, so having sex with underage individuals for them is relatively benign. They consider themselves on the moral end of the spectrum compared with others who do some pretty unspeakable stuff.

Many years ago I had an acquaintance describe an act that he was involved with that was so incredibly disgusting and revolting that to this day, and it must be close to 50 years, I still visualize it at times and literally have to shake my head to get it out of my consciousness. No worries, I’m not going to relate it here… But let me tell you that on the spectrum of these horrible human beings, pedophilia and ephedrophilia is the foyer to the house of activities.

There are foci of individuals who participate in these events in a multitude of areas all over the world. You can only imagine, or likely you cannot, what went on on a private island with no boundaries. I am certain that somewhere, someone has a diary, kept meticulously, and that would be something to see. For whatever years is the point of experiencing this if you can’t talk about it? For a tame example, think of the single woman Monica Lewinsky: she needed to tell someone, in her case exactly the wrong individual, of her Oval Office experiences. A married woman of stature might not want to do this, for she has much more to lose by doing so.

We shall see how this unfolds, if at all.

[gab13by13]

1. 60 years ago when I was working in a factory

as summer help to make money to go to college, I heard about this.

I was in the yard crew that did various odds and ends jobs. On one of my lunch breaks one of the old timers in the crew told me that it was nice to fuck a chicken because it fans your balls.

I thought he was joking.

[Srkdqltr]

2. Interesting take on all this. I sure see your point and that is why i think that his base is not as riled up as some

think.
As proven by the "grab my pussy" t shirts, it's all relative.

[SocialDemocrat61]

3. And couches 😉

[milestogo]

4. Here in Wisconsin we had to pass a law that

you are not allowed to do the deed with roadkill. Yes, some poor deer...

And around that time there was a young lady killed in a motorcycle accident. Three teens tried to break into her grave for necrophilia, but they couldn't get into the burial vault. There are already laws against abusing a corpse.

[gab13by13]

6. I wasn't going to post this because it was so sick,

I live in an area where almost everyone hunts. Once again this was about 60 years ago and a friend of mine who worked at the same factory told me about his doe hunting experience. He was walking through the woods and heard a gun shot. He walked a ways and came to a clearing where a hunter had just shot a doe. My friend said he had to take a second look because the hunter wasn't gutting out the doe he was swonging it. To make matters worse he recognized the hunter who was fucking the deer, he was someone who worked in our factory.

We in the factory had been calling this guy a pervert long before this event.

Yes I live in a bright red Magat town.

[milestogo]

10. The doe was a female who recently had a pulse.

I'm originally from Illinois. I hadn't been here for very long when this law was passed, and I remember thinking it was wild that you had to pass a law to stop people from doing that.

Honestly, though - you're telling me it was a fresh kill. I had pictured someone pulling over to hump a doe killed in traffic 24 hours before.

The dead girl story would have been worse, if they had been able to get to her.

[TheRickles]

5. I'm hoping Elon's the one who spills the beans on Epstein, Trump, et al.

[Kid Berwyn]

7. Worked in an ER...

…as an orderly, taking vital signs, steam-clean-clean housekeeping and helping with the muscle for moving people from cart to bed, mostly, holding young kids in a Velcro papoose suturing lacerations.

One fine Saturday, a young man presented with a bowel obstruction. X-ray showed a solid, round body. Surgeon on call and crew came in and removed a softball from the guy.

Two weeks later, the same guy came back with the same problem. The same surgeon was on ER call. This time the doc, though, said, “No, not me. He needs someone else.”

At the time, I was shocked. Hippocrates Oath and all. But the doc had a point. His skills and time are gifts for healing. He has little time for his own rest and family, let alone the never ending needs of the community that counted on him for everything from appendectomies to removing tumors.

So, the hospital called in another surgeon. The guy was helped, the thing removed, and he went home after recovery. Hope the patient has received psychological counseling, too. He has no idea what he’s doing to body or his reputation.

[mopinko]

8. those who talk r often the losers.

have a friend from high school who was the beard of a pedo. guy used to take trips to places like thailand, and brought back video tapes. 1 day, when she was alone at his house, she got curious, and popped in a tape, expecting to see ankor watt, etc. nope, not that. that day, and what happened next, ruined her life.
the guy was a deacon at the church they both attended, and a lawyer. she blew the whistle, and the guy eventually went to prison. but until he was convicted, she was absolutely ostracized.

this woman has a beautiful voice. she studied opera in college, and cd have been a diva. but after all that happened she developed stage fright that she never cd shake. she did keep singing, doing weddings, etc. but she shd have been a huge star. ended up working as an admin assistant, became disabled, and dirt poor, living w relatives.

there’s a high price to b paid for doing the right thing.

[2MuchNoise]

9. Equally shocking is there are plenty of folks who will vote for the people who f**k chickens.

[mercuryblues]

11. I have a brother-in-law who is an ER Dr.

Yeah, some disgusting and scary shit happens. Someone knows something ans as soon as they talk, the dam will break.

[Hornedfrog2000]

13. Or they are harassed and threatened

Until this story goes away. Then buy off some politicians, etc. Etc. Wala.

[rubbersole]

17. David Pecker "caught and killed" many career ending stories.

Probably got rich(er) doing it.

[Harker]

19. Publisher Pecker pitched a passel of purient paragraphs.

[rubbersole]

22. Plainly pleasing perverted pedophiles.

[Harker]

23. Prodigiously pissing on public priorities.

[twodogsbarking]

12. Old guy story. Back in the 80s I worked for the owner of a company. He was good to his employees.

One guy's wife died suddenly and he was left with three small children. The owner helped him out and consoled him. He was, of course, feeling rough and said to the owner " I'll never get another woman that will give me golden showers". Other employees had to clue the owner on what a golden shower was. The term was new then. In Pennsylvania there are priorities.

[PCIntern]

15. At least it wasn't a "plate job".

[twodogsbarking]

14. Once you accept the fact that there are many smart people but many more who are not smart then life gets easrier.

They are driving in cars. They only know how to be stupid. Keep that in mind.

[Iggo]

24. I keep hitting Pollyanna levels of generous for how many smart people there are, though.

I realized a long time ago that there were more stupid people than I thought there were. But I keep being surprised, if not shocked, that the number is bigger than I think. Again and again and again.

[twodogsbarking]

25. Knowledge and kindness. There is a limit to genius but not to, you know, morons.

[Bev54]

16. The fact that the FBI took so long to do a search of the Island, the evidence was swept clean

Not sure who has it but there is no doubt Epstein either gave the order when he was jailed or his brother did when he died. Somebody has it and maybe even still using it to blackmail some very rich and powerful people.

[rubbersole]

18. My guess is Bill Barr.

AG at the time and familiar with Epstine from way back. He'd know the value of that type of "information".

[Wiz Imp]

29. Questionable. His New York property was searched immediately upon his arrest.

His island property was searched upon his death. If significant evidence were removed after his arrest, I would think there'd be witnesses to that.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/07/politics/bondi-epstein-files-client-list-suicide-memo

And the Miami Herald’s Julie K. Brown, one of the best-sourced reporters on the Epstein case, reported earlier this year: “Those who have worked with the FBI on the case for decades say there is no evidence Epstein kept a ledger or a list of clients who were involved with his sex trafficking operation.”

In another puzzling claim, Bondi said there were “tens of thousands of videos” of Epstein “with children or child porn.” Bondi first made the assertion on a secretly recorded video. Then she repeated the claim publicly, possibly in an effort to get ahead of that video’s release. “There are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn, and there are hundreds of victims,” Bondi said publicly on May 7.

But just a month later, FBI Director Kash Patel appeared to walk back Bondi’s claim. He indicated to podcast host Joe Rogan there was no video of people committing crimes on Epstein’s island.

Bondi’s allegation puzzled lawyers and law enforcement officials involved in Epstein’s criminal cases who were unfamiliar with any such trove of videos, an AP investigation reported last week.

However, The DOJ/FBI memo released last week said this:

The files relating to Epstein include a large volume of images of Epstein, images and videos
of victims who are either minors or appear to be minors, and over ten thousand downloaded videos
and images of illegal child sex abuse material and other pornography. Teams of agents, analysts,
attorneys, and privacy and civil liberties experts combed through the digital and documentary
evidence with the aim of providing as much information as possible to the public while
simultaneously protecting victims. Much of the material is subject to court-ordered sealing. Only
a fraction of this material would have been aired publicly had Epstein gone to trial, as the seal
served only to protect victims and did not expose any additional third-parties to allegations of
illegal wrongdoing. Through this review, we found no basis to revisit the disclosure of those
materials and will not permit the release of child pornography.

This systematic review revealed no incriminating “client list.” There was also no credible
evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions. We did not
uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties.

This would seem to support Bondi's claim, at least to a degree. And while it implies there was nothing incriminating against any third party, it doesn't exactly explicitly say that. And if there was incriminating evidence against Trump, you know they wouldn't admit that.

Also, keep in mind, there are at least 2 sets of evidence. The evidence from the first arrest in 2007 and the evidence from the second arrest in 2019. Do these statements apply to only to evidence collected in 2019 or also to evidence collected in 2007? Trump would only be included in the earlier evidence as he legitimately didn't have contact with Epstein after his first arrest.

[Bev54]

30. His NY city Mansion was searched prior to his arrest and that is when they found his fake passport as well

That was in early July 2019 and 2 days after his death in Aug 2019 the FBI then searched his Island. Who would notice people taking documents and/or hard drives etc from a secluded island???? Lawyers, relatives etc had access to the island for over a month before it was finally searched. It would be naive to think evidence was not retrieved shortly after his arrest, especially as they had already searched his mansion. No, there was not likely a list but no doubt there is hundreds if not thousands of documents and whether hard copies or on computer hard drives, that would have led officials to others that were involved. Please don't tell me anything supports Bondi's claim. It is simply semantics and she is a proven liar who is a Trump ass kisser. She (being DOJ) no doubt has access to many documents from both arrests as well, that could determine others in Epstein's schemes and the clients. Trump and Epstein had a falling out and some believe it was Trump that gave some information to the investigation that led to his arrest in 2019. (who the hell really knows) I do believe someone somewhere has a lot of information proving the allegations against Epstein, Trump and others. But please do not use Bondi and Kash Patel to try to convince me of any argument insinuating they are the truth tellers here. Sorry, but the FBI found nothing of interest at the island and it is not credible that there would not be anything there, unless someone had removed it.

[Wiz Imp]

32. Sorry but you're wrong. His mansion was NOT searched before his arrest.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/09/us/jeffrey-epstein-arrest-why-now

Indeed, after Epstein’s arrest, federal agents executed a search warrant of his mansion in New York City and seized a “vast trove” of lewd photographs of young-looking women or girls, prosecutors said in a court filing.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/12/07/evidence-jeffrey-epsteins-safe-went-missing-fbi-raid-court-hears/

Special Agent Kelly Maguire recalled how CDs and other items were recovered by the FBI from a locked safe during an initial search of the Manhattan home on July 6 and July 7, 2019, after Epstein’s arrest on sex assault charges.
The FBI agent said officers broke open the safe with a saw, finding the CDs, jewellery, computer hard drives, "loose diamonds", passports and “large amounts of US currency.”

I never defended Bondi or Patel. I simply pointed out they made statements regarding the "large volume of images of Epstein, images and videos of victims who are either minors or appear to be minors" that DIRECTLY CONTRADICTED each other. In that case one of them had to be telling the truth.

Did you work for the FBI? Otherwise, there is no way to know that "the FBI found nothing of interest at the island". The FBI never stated that they found nothing of interest. Just because you are so sure that your speculation is the absolute truth and anyone disagreeing with you is wrong, doesn't make it so. Your statements are just that SPECULATION and your conclusion is simply your OPINION. You clearly don't know as much as you think you do.

[womanofthehills]

21. Epstein probably had duplicates of the info

held by other persons or organizations.

[Behind the Aegis]

26. I heard something similar when I first moved to Oklahoma.

I was driving to work, and some yahoo was talking about sex with cows. The DJ couldn't believe it, thought the guy was kidding, retold the story to the caller and said "bull" instead of cow. The guy corrected him with, "Man, I said I did it with cows, not bulls. I ain't no fag!". I almost ended up in a ditch!

As for the Epstein case, I think this might actually bring this POS down. He has lied so many times, they can't keep them straight and because of it, even some hardcore MAGA are breaking away. If the conservatives are smart, they will take advantage of the situation in order to take back power from the MAGAssholes.

[PCIntern]

27. That first paragraph

Might be one of the funniest things I’ve ever read!!

Keep up the good work BtA. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[TexasBushwhacker]

28. Beastiality is pretty common in rural communities

They even talked about getting a heifer in "The Last Picture Show". .
As of 2023, beastiality is still legal in West Virginia, although a person can still be prosecuted for animal cruelty.

[KentuckyWoman]

31. This thread went south fast.

I only read a few replies. I don't want to know that mess. However, I do want to say that yours is a good point.

The part already public is revolting enough. But the depth of the depravity is indeed likely far worse than anything someone like me can, or even wants to think about.

Someone else on DU posted a question what if part of all that was setting it up for the rich and powerful so they could be blackmailed later. Not an unreasonable speculation either. It horrified me to even think of how deep and wide the ugliness has gone.

Even so, even if it breaks the whole world in half, those victims deserve justice. Shielded from being publicly known, but justice just the same.