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is Orange Julius Caesar in the Epstein files? Even if @realDonald Trump insists he isn't, I'm pretty sure he is. (Original Post) generalbetrayus Jul 13 OP
Of course he is; he was Epstein's BFF for more than 10 years. Ocelot II Jul 13 #1
Of course he is. Epstein was, among other things...a networker. CincyDem Jul 13 #2
Very wealthy people who are huge doners to Trump womanofthehills Jul 13 #3
The adjudicated sexual assaulter is in the file and does not care about any donors JT45242 Jul 13 #4
Simple mnmoderatedem Jul 13 #5
if he releases it, he loses his leverage. mopinko Jul 13 #6
Trump's level of interest in Epstein tells me he is guilty as hell. Aussie105 Jul 13 #7
Interest or no, this is known MadameButterfly Jul 13 #18
Oh FFS Picaro Jul 13 #8
Absolutely. hadEnuf Jul 13 #11
What's crazy is the Bondi had to read the list to figure this out MadameButterfly Jul 13 #19
That's funny in a perverse way. usonian Jul 13 #9
Seriously? Thistle1233 Jul 13 #10
Then why won't Trump release it? hadEnuf Jul 13 #12
This is a landmine Thistle1233 Jul 14 #20
Welcome to DU orangecrush Jul 13 #14
LOL Skittles Jul 13 #15
"Never saw the guy in my life!" dpibel Jul 13 #16
they're getting more and more desperate Skittles Jul 13 #17
Word orangecrush Jul 13 #13

CincyDem

(7,152 posts)
2. Of course he is. Epstein was, among other things...a networker.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 08:30 PM
Jul 13

Ask anyone who works a networking job. Sales, insurance guy, financial advisor…the all have a client list because ultimately, that’s the asset of a networker.

And there always client notes. Golf handicap, favorite nfl team, restaurants the like/don’t like…and of course, in Epstein’s case, notes on the client’s preferences and peccadilloes. No way Jeff was relying on his memory for ally that money making info.

So yeah…There’s a list and DJT is on it.

womanofthehills

(10,024 posts)
3. Very wealthy people who are huge doners to Trump
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 08:35 PM
Jul 13

Are probably on the list. World leaders can be on there too. Trump is probably on it but if he isn’t - people close to him are.

JT45242

(3,497 posts)
4. The adjudicated sexual assaulter is in the file and does not care about any donors
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 09:26 PM
Jul 13

There are donors and allies in the files. But that doesn't matter to the felon.

He only cares about himself.

If there was video of Eric and junior gutting a 12 year old and raping the dead corpse but he wasn't in it. He would release it

mnmoderatedem

(3,885 posts)
5. Simple
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 09:37 PM
Jul 13

rarely a day goes by that trump does not threaten someone with criminal investigation or lawsuits. Heck he just threatened Rosie O'Donnell's citizenship simply because he does not like what she says publicly.

Along comes Elon Musk, of whom there has been a well publicized falling out, accusing trump of the heinous reality of being in those wretched files. Yet there is not a hint of any legal retaliation by trump against Musk. None whatsoever.


Tells you everything eight there.

mopinko

(72,790 posts)
6. if he releases it, he loses his leverage.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 10:01 PM
Jul 13

bribery and blackmail r how he got everything he didnt inherit or steal.
even tho they fell out, they were buds for a long, long time. he probably has copies of a lot of pics.

Aussie105

(7,105 posts)
7. Trump's level of interest in Epstein tells me he is guilty as hell.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 10:04 PM
Jul 13

Otherwise, TSF would not show any interest at all.

In fact he would fascilitate release of the information to prove his non-involvement.

MadameButterfly

(3,290 posts)
18. Interest or no, this is known
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 11:34 PM
Jul 13

How could Trump spend time with him and not be involved? We know his proclivities. They were friends because of the girls.
But I hope he's stressed as hell.

Picaro

(2,115 posts)
8. Oh FFS
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 10:08 PM
Jul 13

Of course he is. Do you think he’d be acting like this if he wasn’t in the files?

The guy wanted to do his own daughter when she was in the appropriate age group. She’s too old now. But he was hot for his own daughter.

The man is utterly panicked right now.

hadEnuf

(3,317 posts)
11. Absolutely.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 10:29 PM
Jul 13

Trump has been stroking the MAGATs with this Epstein shit for years. But once they got "the list" all of a sudden there is nothing in there and it never existed anyway, even after Bondi had it sitting on her desk?

I think Bondi finally read it, shit her pants, and now she has to come up with any complete nonsense she can think of to cover it up.

Trump is all over the client list and anyone with a fucking brain figured that out a long time ago. But now it's obvious.

MadameButterfly

(3,290 posts)
19. What's crazy is the Bondi had to read the list to figure this out
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 11:36 PM
Jul 13

or maybe they just thought the problem would go away when they wanted it to---like everything else he's gotten away with.

Thistle1233

(5 posts)
10. Seriously?
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 10:28 PM
Jul 13

With respect, had the great pumpkin been mentioned in the Epstein files we would have heard about it way before the election. Remember it was the Biden justice department that held on to the info (as well as the current minions). If there were anything, however small, about trumpf contained in any Epstein documents, we'd already know it.

hadEnuf

(3,317 posts)
12. Then why won't Trump release it?
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 10:37 PM
Jul 13

Do you seriously think that Trump is sitting on this to protect someone else at the expense of his own innocence or something?



There is no other reason for him to do something like this.


Thistle1233

(5 posts)
20. This is a landmine
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 11:23 AM
Jul 14

I understand we all want to believe there is something there. My position is simple; if there was anything negative about the resident in the Epstein files, the Harris campaign would have used it. Say what you will about Orangina, he's not stupid. He's crafty like a fox and he's holding onto the info for a reason. There are only two possibilities here, the files don't exist, or they do exist and contain damning info on highly placed people. If they don't exist, the repubs and QANON look stupid for having held onto this canard for years. If they do exist, they likely contain awful stories about our side (if they don't the right will make some up). If we force the release (as has been floated legislatively) and it blows back on Dems, we look stupid. The best thing to do now is leave it alone. Let the Repubs look foolish by harping on non existent files for years. We spin it as them having wasted time and money chasing their tails. Let's take that win and not give them the chance to fabricate negative things about us.

Skittles

(166,124 posts)
15. LOL
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 11:09 PM
Jul 13

Trump is already a known pervert........and if he was innocent he would have sued the FUCK out MUSK by now.

dpibel

(3,620 posts)
16. "Never saw the guy in my life!"
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 11:15 PM
Jul 13

Keep telling yourself this story, friend.

How could there possibly be anything, however small, about trumpf in the Epstein case? It's pretty clear from the pictorial evidence, that they never, ever met.

Have a good time here, helping us understand the TRUTH!!!11!

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