Fair question.

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Acyn @Acyn·
Person in the crowd: Are you an MS-13 member?

Homan: Get out of here you loser. If you’re such a badass, meet me off stage.

Link to tweet

...it's as fair to ask this of Tom Homan as it is for his agency to arrest and jail people using unproven and undocumented claims of criminal associations, as they have done repeatedly, with arrogance and relative impunity.

This week an LA judge ordered ICE to cease indiscriminate raids and racial profiling:

___A federal judge in Los Angeles has ordered the Trump administration to stop carrying out indiscriminate immigration raids in the city and its surrounding areas, citing its use of “unconstitutional tactics,” including racial profiling and denying the right to an attorney.

Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong of the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California wrote that there is a “mountain of evidence” that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agents are “indiscriminately rounding up numerous individuals without reasonable suspicion” in violation of the Fourth Amendment during their “roving patrols” in the region.

She issued two temporary restraining orders against the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). One bars agents from targeting individuals based on race or ethnicity; speaking Spanish or English with an accent; presence in specific locations such as bus stops, car washes, or agricultural sites; or type of employment. The second requires DHS to provide access to attorneys for those who are arrested.

https://truthout.org/articles/la-judge-orders-ice-to-cease-indiscriminate-raids-and-racial-profiling/

According to the ACLU complaint:

The raids in this district follow a common, systematic pattern. Individuals with brown skin are approached or pulled aside by unidentified federal agents, suddenly and with a show of force, and made to answer questions about who they are and where they are from. If they hesitate, attempt to leave, or do not answer the questions to the satisfaction of the agents, they are detained, sometimes tackled, handcuffed, and/or taken into custody.

In these interactions, agents typically have no prior information about the individual and no warrant of any kind. If agents make an arrest, contrary to federal law, they do not make any determination of whether a person poses a risk of flight before a warrant can be obtained. Also contrary to federal law, the agents do not identify themselves or explain why the individual is being arrested.

from April:

...Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin claimed that Venezuelans deported to El Salvador without U.S. criminal records "are actually terrorists, human rights abusers, gangsters and more" but did not present evidence of the accusations.

Prosecutors normally avoid making public allegations of serious criminal conduct − like leading a gang, being a terrorist or engaging in human trafficking − without presenting evidence in court to back up those charges, because they can jeopardize criminal cases, legal experts said. They also undermine a core plank of the U.S. legal system that people have an opportunity to contest claims brought by the government.

“In a court of law, when someone is accused of membership in such a violent and predatory organization, it comes in the form of an indictment, a complaint, a criminal proceeding, that then has robust process so we can assess the facts,” U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis said during an April 4 court hearing, ordering that Abrego Garcia be returned to the U.S.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/13/trump-immigrant-gang-claims/83070549007/

...also:

ICE arrested 95,629 from 2017 to June 2025; 71.7% without criminal records:

Total ICE administrative arrests (Jan 2017–June 10, 2025): 95,629

ICE detention population (June 15, 2025): 56,397 individuals

Detainees with no criminal record: 71.7% (40,433 people)

Detainees with no violent convictions: 93%

https://www.visaverge.com/immigration/a-comprehensive-analysis-of-ice-arrest-data-from-deportation-data-project/

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[LoisB]

1. So, they aren't going after "violent criminals"? I am so shocked.

[bigtree]

3. they were all puffed up today about two arrests of someone they claim is MS-13

...but their track record is horrendous for such accusations and prosecutions.

Case(s) in point:

Trump officials push immigrant gang message, but sometimes don't back it up in court

Recently, Attorney General Pam Bondi, standing with FBI Director Kash Patel, said an arrested Salvadoran man was a top U.S. leader of the MS-13 street gang and a terrorist.

Less than two weeks later, the Justice Department moved to drop charges against the suspect, who was arrested with several guns.

Separately, the White House claimed a man erroneously deported to El Salvador was involved in human trafficking. But the allegation hasn't been made in court.

(Nonetheless) Homeland Security Secretary Krisi Noem said Venezuelan men deported to El Salvador without criminal charges should stay in prison “for the rest of their lives.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/13/trump-immigrant-gang-claims/83070549007/

[Bayard]

2. Immigrants are on a conveyor belt

Fast in, fast out. Don't let a little thing like due process slow it down.