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kentuck

(114,444 posts)
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 12:17 PM Jul 13

Donald Trump was the "Deep State" all along...

He had created rumors and conspiracy theories long before he took over the Executive Branch of government. Even before he started the rumors about Barack Obama not being born in America. Some have suspected that there were FBI files on Trump going back to the 1980's.

Just as there were suspicions of money-laundering when he went bankrupt on some of his businesses, especially when he filed bankruptcy on his casino. One really had to try very hard to go bankrupt in the gambling business. On one occasion, he was paid over $40 million for a property in Florida, by a Russian, which was immediately razed and torn down. It had the appearance of money laundering.

Also, there were his anonymous calls to newspapers and tabloids. He was always trying to stir up conspiracy theories to benefit himself. He gave huge donations to politicians in NY and other places, in order to get favorable tax policies on his properties. He once said, "Nobody knows the system like me."

Indeed, he knew the system all the way to the top of the US government. He knew how to spread lies and invent conspiracy theories to destroy his perceived enemies.

And just as he has made multi-billions in the stock market with his manipulating stories on the tariffs, etc., there are suspicions he did the same, but on a less grand scale, when he was not in the White House.

Now, one conspiracy about Epstein, that he allowed to fester and grow, because he needed his MAGA base to believe that Democrats were running a child sex-ring out of Washington, is now burning out of control and many in his MAGA base want blood. They want to see the names of those Democrats that were operating out of the basement of a pizza joint in DC? They want what they were promised. They were always denied by the "deep state". But now, they are being denied by Pam Bondi, the Attorney General.

But it is not the decision of Pam Bondi. it is the decision of Donald Trump, who is up to his eyeballs in the "deep state".

He has now become the "deep state". The truth is that he has been a major player in the "deep state" all along.

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Bernardo de La Paz

(57,190 posts)
1. The tracking & database searching & gulags & kidnapping is the gubmint maga/tea-party/John-Birchers warned us about. .nt
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 12:33 PM
Jul 13

democrank

(11,664 posts)
2. Trump IS a king....the king of projections
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 12:51 PM
Jul 13

Tossing blame around like he’s spreading grass seed…..

deep state, un-American….they hate their country….getting too much government assistance….fixing elections….they’re rapists….

Trump’s projections (the things HE is actually doing) could fill a new legal pad.

Next time you hear Trump accusing others of being sexual predators, think of him with the teenage pageant girls….or his own daughter.

Next time you hear trump complaining about immigrants sneaking into the country, think about his wife Melania, and her free Einstein ticket. Be Best!

Perhaps tomorrow we’ll witness a Projection Sermonette on how Obama and Biden chose unqualified people for cabinet posts.

kentuck

(114,444 posts)
3. I wonder if he started the conspiracy theory about the Democrats child sex-ring?
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 12:56 PM
Jul 13

When in fact, it was he and Epstein running a child sex-ring out of Mar-a-Lago and Epstein's island retreat? The way he like to project onto others his own wrong-doing, I would not be surprised.

democrank

(11,664 posts)
4. Nothing about Trump surprises me. N-O-T-H-I-N-G.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 01:03 PM
Jul 13

He’s on video wishing he could date his own daughter….if they weren’t related, of course.

Billsdaughter

(19 posts)
12. VULCAN...MIND...MELD
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 03:09 PM
Jul 13

The Republicans are very good at projection but The Scourge has it mastered like no other.

Greywing

(1,146 posts)
5. It goes much further than Trump. Republicans enabled this situation years before
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 01:49 PM
Jul 13

IMHO they tried and in some cases completely took over local and statewide politics through elections and judicial appointments with the help of Federalist Society, Heritage Foundation and other so-called conservative think tanks.

The Deep State has always been the ultra conservative power mongers and their puppets.

Remember how Trump liked to read The Snake when running against Hilary? He is and was the snake, period. But there are whole dens of snakes operating behind the scenes … when the orange idiot dies that won’t be the end of it. Not until the dens are found, doused in gasoline and set on fire (metaphorically speaking, of course).

Kablooie

(18,951 posts)
8. Trump ALWAYS accuses others of his own crimes.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 02:21 PM
Jul 13

If he accuses someone you know they didn’t do it but Trump did.

FadedMullet

(324 posts)
10. The deep state that Trump maligned were mostly career bureaucrats, folks that he demonized because they....
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 02:34 PM
Jul 13

…..were liberal, Democrat holdovers. A couple of people have resigned, but the vast majority of them have just got on board with Doge and the new program.

standingtall

(3,096 posts)
11. We knew Trump was in the Epstein files years before maga started making a fuss
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 02:40 PM
Jul 13

because they thought only Democrats would be on it. Trump is now trying to claim the Epstein files were create by Obama and Clinton to me that is a confession that he is in them. He probably thinks there going to get out. So now he is trying to shift gears and claim the files were all a conspiracy against him and good chunk of maga will probably get onboard despite the fact they didn't think it was a conspiracy theory against Trump until they didn't get the list they wanted with the correct villains on it.

Wounded Bear

(62,534 posts)
13. repubs have been projecting their own evils on progressives for years...
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 03:20 PM
Jul 13

trump just stepped in and took it to a new level.

He's doing everything he accused Democrats of doing for years.

Gordcanuck

(115 posts)
14. You still don't grasp
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 03:26 PM
Jul 13

the misuse of the presidential pardoning power about to happen. The sole publicly convicted offender in the Epstein affair is soon to walk away from prison thanks to Mr. Trump. Maxwell’s upcoming appeal against the length of her sentence, yards yada, will result in the cone of silence descending on this whole mess once more. Nothing to see here, folks, now move along please. Only in America.

AntiFascist

(13,538 posts)
15. The term "Deep State" originally referred to a group of anti-democratic political coalitions in Turkey...
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 04:10 PM
Jul 13

This article is from 2018 and is outdated, but makes a good point:

Trump’s relationship with the Turkish president has blown hot and cold, but his adoption of Erdoğan’s rhetoric has been a consistent theme of his seemingly never-ending tweets. Similarly, Trump regularly echoes the constant imprecations that his great friend Benjamin Netanyahu hurls at the media and its “fake news” in response to allegations of the growing list of corrupt practices surrounding him and his family—or has Netanyahu been echoing Trump? No matter; the two men, and Erdoğan, all see the same enemies, and for the same reasons.
...
In developing the “deep state” into a constant refrain, the president is probably doing much to create the very situation he fears. Career officials, already unionized, could work together to undermine White House initiatives by delaying implementation of legislation that has passed the Congress or executive orders that the president has signed. This tactic is likely to become immeasurably easier for them with the recent election of Democrat Doug Jones to the Senate. Democrats need only two votes to block any Trump initiative, and any combination of Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, as well as Arizona’s retiring senator Jeff Flake and Tennessee’s retiring senator Bob Corker, none of whom are Trump admirers, could do the trick. As a result, Trump, like Barack Obama before him, would have to rely increasingly on executive orders to mandate any governmental action, and then the bureaucracy would simply dig in its collective heels.


https://nationalinterest.org/feature/think-theres-deep-state-take-look-turkey-24553
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