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I'm still trying to figure out why people do bad things. (Original Post) Duncanpup Jul 13 OP
From personal experience, some people do bad things because no_hypocrisy Jul 13 #1
Toxic individuals do evil individual things. Maybe they become serial killers unblock Jul 13 #2
This analogy is spot on. ShazzieB Monday #11
Lao Tzu nailed it for me years ago. multigraincracker Jul 13 #3
Me, too. I don't get it. Biophilic Jul 13 #4
"Diseased monkey brains."--Oscar Kiss Maerth RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jul 13 #5
Why people do bad things experiment was debunked donkeyoaty Monday #6
Also look up the Milgram experiment.. AntiFascist Monday #7
They are psychopaths and are devoid of empathy womanofthehills Monday #8
But what causes psychopathy Oeditpus Rex Monday #9
Have you ever seen Person of Interest? Morbius Monday #10

no_hypocrisy

(52,343 posts)
1. From personal experience, some people do bad things because
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 05:37 AM
Jul 13

it makes them feel good. But the good feeling is temporary and they have to return to doing more bad things.

unblock

(55,400 posts)
2. Toxic individuals do evil individual things. Maybe they become serial killers
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 06:54 AM
Jul 13

Toxic cultures train people to do toxic collective evil, such as slavery or genocide or ethnic cleansing.

Magats are utterly convinced they are being patriotic and doing god's work when they adamantly support alligator auchwitz and ice kidnapping of people who have come to this country at the behest of an American employer to work, often for below minimum wage and under conditions citizens would never accept. Or think the state should enslave pregnant women and dictate details of their existence over 9 months, force them to suffer and endure financial, psychological, emotional, hormonal, and physical damage and even risk death, even for a fetus that might already be dead or doomed, and imprison doctors who might try to save them.

They have been trained to believe that anyone who holds a contrary view is the unpatriotic and evil one and that the magat is the good one against all facts and logic and reason because why would all their beloved right wing sources lie?

For the rest of us, it's like a bad magic trick where we all see how the magician is doing the trick but those in the target audience are completely enthralled and convinced it's magic.

These people work from the premise that Donnie is divinely appointed so everything he says is the truth and good and gods will no matter how idiotic or evil it actually is.

A cruel immigration policy makes sense to them because they are convinced we're under invasion by rapists and so on. They've been hearing that crap continuously since Donnie's escalator speech nearly a decade ago. They think they're defending innocent Americans against evil invaders w huh en actually they're torturing and ruining lives of people who pick our vegetables and wash our dishes and mow our lawns.

They are incapable or processing the idea that a convicted criminal ignoring laws and the constitution might actually be the evil one. God chose him to lead us, they think, so they can't process such a conflicting notion.

ShazzieB

(21,171 posts)
11. This analogy is spot on.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 12:32 PM
Monday
For the rest of us, it's like a bad magic trick where we all see how the magician is doing the trick but those in the target audience are completely enthralled and convinced it's magic.

This is exactly what it's like! And for years now, we've been forced to watch them cheer for one bad trick after another, when the fakery has been obvious to us fom the get go. If the stakes weren't so stratospherically high, it would just be annoying. Because they are that high, for the entire planet, it's well nigh unbearable!

multigraincracker

(35,992 posts)
3. Lao Tzu nailed it for me years ago.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 07:15 AM
Jul 13

There would be no good people with out bad ones. They define each other. The mutual interdependence of opposites. Like a coin, no need for heads without tails.
I think the world is gray, not black and white. I even appreciate Donald Drumpf. He is my example for how to act in my own life. I have to stop and ask myself if this is something I shouldn’t do. All I have to do is ask myself, is this what he would and then if it is, I stop.

Biophilic

(5,888 posts)
4. Me, too. I don't get it.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 08:41 AM
Jul 13

Ok, I understand some people are mentally unwell, but the others? I was such a Pollyanna. Still am, since I really don’t understand. I know the psychological mechanics, but I will probably never understand why people do bad and evil things.

5. "Diseased monkey brains."--Oscar Kiss Maerth
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 09:50 AM
Jul 13

"You can take the ape out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the ape! —RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

donkeyoaty

(1 post)
6. Why people do bad things experiment was debunked
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 03:14 AM
Monday

Sorry i cant cite the article but i remember reading,possibly last year, that the findings of this experiment were debunked after some student participants confessed to actng in ways they thought they were expected to , & not the way they felt. If that is correct i dont know why the book is still in circulation.

AntiFascist

(13,532 posts)
7. Also look up the Milgram experiment..
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 03:40 AM
Monday

although one ethical concern was that many participants experienced significant psychological and emotional distress during the experiment.

womanofthehills

(10,011 posts)
8. They are psychopaths and are devoid of empathy
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 03:57 AM
Monday

Some studies say one or two percent of the population are psychopaths- while 16% to 25% of those in prison are.

So, here in US we are probably living amongst 4 million psychopaths.

Some researchers believe some people are born psychopaths as their parents saw the behavior in toddlers - hurting pets and siblings.

There is a good book “The Psychopath Next Door” - I read it when we had a psychopath in our neighborhood. My psycho neighbor told me he would leave items in people’s yards so they would know he was there - he was a potter - so he would leave his pot chards in your yard (way out in the country) - he left a noose in someone’s tree and after he told me how he could ruin people’s wells, I put a locked box over my well.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,106 posts)
9. But what causes psychopathy
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:45 AM
Monday

and sociopathy? "Nature or nurture"?

I've long believed adult behavior is result of one's upbringing -- bad parenting, bad teachers, bullies et al. Any of these can lead to an overwhelming desire for revenge, which can manifest in several different ways.

But then, the human brain is so complicated, thus the chances so great of something going wrong in its development, and what might seem insignificant -- like a misfiring synapse -- can have catastrophic results if not treated. And that's simply nature: it doesn't account for changes in the brain caused by elements of the "nurture" part.

I fear we'll never know any more than "both." (And I don't reallly know why that answer doesn't satisfy me.)

Morbius

(583 posts)
10. Have you ever seen Person of Interest?
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:29 AM
Monday

The answer is "bad code".

Translated: some people have bad programming.

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