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Trump calls for deporting US citizens: "We also have a lot of bad people that have been here for a long time ... many of them were born in our country. I think we ought to get them the hell out of here too, if you want to know the truth. So maybe that'll be the next job."
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-07-01T16:32:31.526Z
I was told this would never happen. I was just being hysterical for suggesting it.

no_hypocrisy
(52,355 posts)JT45242
(3,495 posts)Vote for a Nazi, you get death camps
Johonny
(24,198 posts)So yes, death camps are next. There is no one in the GOP congress or courts that will stop them. It seems like a matter of time.
Hekate
(98,596 posts)travelingthrulife
(2,894 posts)Grim Chieftain
(411 posts)He is a clear and present danger if ever there was one.
WestMichRad
(2,404 posts)Let nature take its course, if the heat there doesnt off em
BidenRocks
(1,858 posts)This is extremely cruel and unusual for the 21st century.
Random Boomer
(4,343 posts)We are headed for bad times and this is only a small taste of what is ahead. Glad I'm very near the end of my life.
BidenRocks
(1,858 posts)We rode the curl of the tech wave while it was still new and exciting.
Now it's Skynet.
Growing up in the sixties was pretty cool.
BidenRocks
(1,858 posts)No helmets
Jarts
Be home at dark
Mini-bikes
Hitchhiking
Jello molds!
for me too. Jan 1955.
Random Boomer
(4,343 posts)I was born in 1954. I was a young adult when desktop computers first came out. Somehow, I still ended up in IT before I retired.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,075 posts)I was born in '45, at the end of WWII.
And for the last 80 years one of the perpetual burning questions I've heard has been "Why didn't the Germans stop Hitler early on?"
Now we know.
Wingus Dingus
(9,173 posts)Look at that amoral shitstain and tell me he wouldn't.
Farmer-Rick
(11,875 posts)Pedo Trump can't even speak coherently and use the proper words. Yet all the media just goes on and repeats his mangled, incoherent, childish language.
Forcing a citizen to leave the country they were born in is called exile or banishment. NOT DEPORTATION. Stupid people don't even know the English Language.
It was usually done to criminals back in ancient times. So, another long dead form of punishment being dusted off to use against American citizens by Nazi loving Trump humpers.
What next? Crucification, the rack, the wheel, thumbscrews, the ironmaiden?
erronis
(20,662 posts)The active involvement of the US media in these operations and propaganda is staggering. Obviously the owners/publishers, even the top-level editors, are all in on the "plan".
KarenS
(5,050 posts)Martin Eden
(14,632 posts)Absolute worst person status now.
Hornedfrog2000
(377 posts)You allowed to be born in your condos first.
musette_sf
(10,409 posts)SheltieLover
(71,856 posts)
walkingman
(9,579 posts)and my DW and I will leave in a NY minute.
ShazzieB
(21,178 posts)AdamGG
(1,729 posts)and some kind of resident alien status. Can't be too picky when it's showing signs of 1936 Germany.
yorkster
(3,260 posts)Sadly we're stuck in place for now...
OhioTim
(350 posts)unless you have plenty of money
LudwigPastorius
(12,973 posts)Better have another plan.
I'm thinking Maidstone, Kent, UK.
róisín_dubh
(12,076 posts)the UK hates immigrants almost as much as the US.
Not quite there yet, but almost. They're about to fuck over skilled workers in order to solve the refugee crisis. Oh and that's the Labour government doing it, not the Tories and not the Neo-fascist Reform party.
It's no fun at all being an immigrant here, nor is it cheap.
But I wouldn't move back to the US if you paid me, I'll just keep draining my savings to afford my appalling salary until I have permanent residency and then I'll give up my US citizenship.
Johnny2X2X
(23,083 posts)I've been saying this for months, ICE and every method ICE is using right now under the guise of policing immigration will become standard for policing anyone Trump views as an enemy. This was always the plan, ICE is now the most powerful force in our country and they are going to treat dissidents the same way we've seen them treat immigrants. And the SCOTUS will do nothing to stop it, not will Congress.
God forbid they get ahold of DU's servers and start showing up to our houses asking questions about our posts here. They can disappear anyone.
surfered
(8,014 posts)irisblue
(35,465 posts)I worry for them.
twodogsbarking
(14,474 posts)Johnny2X2X
(23,083 posts)If you don't agree with Trump, he now has the right to eject you from the country and throw you into a prison camp in a place like Libya or Rwanda. All your property can be seized and you will not face atrial or even charges and you can spend the rest of your life in a foreign prison. America voted for a dictator, and that's what America is getting.
LuckyCharms
(20,352 posts)This is NOT hyperbole.
The country sleep-walked into this...and it's 90% here now.
Johnny2X2X
(23,083 posts)And for the most part, the vast majority of the country has been fine with what is happening to immigrants. Maybe some of it seems heavy handed to some Americans, but they probably think it's just a few bad cases here and there.
So when they see their friends and neighbors being rounded up, they'll just shrug and go, "Well, they must have committed some crime."
Justice matters.
(8,654 posts)History, when ignored, repeats (in other countries).
SharonAnn
(14,082 posts)And Opus Dei supported it all. Power and wealth to control the citizens.
yellowdogintexas
(23,374 posts)does that invalidate his descendants; after all he came here before the definition of citizenship was established.
ShazzieB
(21,178 posts)He emigrated from Germany to the U.S. state of Georgia in the 19th century and got drafted to serve as a dentist in the Confederate Army during the Civil War. My daughter, my niece, my grand niece, and I are all technically eligible for membership in the Daughters of the Confederacy. Do we get any brownie points in Trumpamerica for that? /s
Cirsium
(2,750 posts)Did your ancestor man the air, ram the ramparts, or take over the airports?
Initech
(105,691 posts)He'd probably be horrified if he saw what was happening today.
twodogsbarking
(14,474 posts)You too
niyad
(125,310 posts)SheltieLover
(71,856 posts)
-misanthroptimist
(1,388 posts)I'll walk. Not that I'm actually a bad person, just one that detests His Fragility. In his mind, that makes me "bad."
Justice matters.
(8,654 posts)A convicted one. Never really punished, though.
Never deterred to commit crimes over and over again.
orangecrush
(25,735 posts)Kid Berwyn
(21,367 posts)"If you want to know the truth," for some reason.
Ping Tung
(3,068 posts)Deport themselves?
Dixiegrrrl
(105 posts)And political affiliation may be included, since no due process will be involved.
Right now Stephen Miller and other Republicans are making tons of money from stock of the companies involved in the deportation process, including running the jail expansions.
At the same time, trump is renting expensive hotel and other living quarters to rich non-Americans to give birth in this country.
The bill will also cut Medicaid/Medicare funding from hospitals and Drs. which esp. rural areas heavily depend on, and those services are being bought up by private businesses.
They make Nixon look like a piker.
Lonestarblue
(12,814 posts)The idea was that they are not real citizens like white people and they should all now be sent back to Africa.
Given the ignorance of history exhibited by most Republicans, including Trump, the assumption is that Hispanic people do not belong here either. They seem to be totally ignorant of the fact that until 1848 Mexico owned much of the Southwest, consisting of the present-day states of California, Nevada, Utah, most of Arizona, the western half of New Mexico, the western quarter of Colorado, and the southwest corner of Wyoming. Obviously, the people living there were Hispanic and they were granted citizenship by the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, 1848. Texas was in dispute but also had many Mexicans living there when it became a state and gained US citizenship.
We are a nation of many ethnicities. I wish we could finally learn to live together without all the right-wing hate.
mwmisses4289
(1,564 posts)what would eventually be named America, the Spanish were settling what would become florida, georgia, alabama, and mississippi. St. Augustine in florida is the oldest city in what is now the united states.
B.See
(5,908 posts)"We also have a lot of bad people that have been here for a long time ... many of them were born in our country. I think we ought to get them the hell out of here too, if you want to know the truth."
Says the BAD PERSON squatting in the Oval Office.
If only we could get HIM the hell out of here!
the bubble in his head to pop, maybe it will give us some peace.
B.See
(5,908 posts)a fate too grim for him.
mainer
(12,375 posts)He only says "bad people" who were "born here."
That could mean people descended from Mayflower ancestors. It could mean any US citizen.
He also doesn't define "bad people." He doesn't define "the enemy." It could mean "anyone who's opposed to me."
He's setting the stage for wholesale deportations of everyone.
mwmisses4289
(1,564 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:08 PM - Edit history (1)
no matter small the matter is, is a bad person.
IronLionZion
(49,479 posts)Anyone who shared memes or posted on a liberal forum are "bad people".
They'll find some way to get rid of Indigenous Native Americans too since they are majority Dems.
Buns_of_Fire
(18,599 posts)when Friedrich Trumpf decided to grace our shores.
Nasruddin
(1,074 posts)That guy was as shady as a street lined with linden trees (in other words, a typical 19th C American businessman), so there's bound to be something wrong in his immigration paperwork that can be used. Then we can deport the whole clan.
IronLionZion
(49,479 posts)
bdamomma
(68,864 posts)a legal citizen when he was born????
mwmisses4289
(1,564 posts)IronLionZion
(49,479 posts)Let's see if any liberal countries will take me as an American born refugee.
Karasu
(1,654 posts)Wingus Dingus
(9,173 posts)for "un-American activities" for a deal to avoid being deported or imprisoned ourselves? You'll miss the fun!
doc03
(38,150 posts)speaking against dear leader? It is coming.
IronLionZion
(49,479 posts)that's why they check social media posts of visitors, tourists, visa and green card residents, etc. They have thrown out international students for protesting. They turned away tourists for having memes on their phone.
GoodRaisin
(10,349 posts)an evil government now. But
.but her emails
.
Stupid has consequences.
Jspur
(733 posts)next. Hopefully he's not successful but that seems to be his next goal. If he succeeds at doing what he wants to do next we are on the verge of becoming like Nazi Germany.
Justice matters.
(8,654 posts)Disappearing natural-born citizens by the tens of thousands who were never to be seen again.
Orrex
(65,569 posts)Thatll solve about 100% of the imagined open borders problem.
SheltieLover
(71,856 posts)
Justice matters.
(8,654 posts)they would get the taxpayers-credit-card bundles anyway, as long as the contractors will donate cuts of them back to repukes only hidden in repuke 'pacs' or/and directly (smaller donations).
Maru Kitteh
(30,392 posts)They believe, without exception that any person of Color in the United States who is not Native American was brought here and therefore isnt really American and so should be sent back. If they are a Brown person in Colorado who is fluent only in Spanish its taken as proof that they are not citizens and most likely came here illegally. Never mind they could easily be from a family who has lived there on the same land for a dozen generations or more.
But the bottom line here is this - they dont really give a shit about the map and who crossed what border or what border crossed them.
Its about protecting the status and the power of the ®Real American. Must be, White, heterosexual, ®Christian able-bodied and male, all others need not apply.
Grim Chieftain
(411 posts)Bad people who have been here a long time? Like an orange idiot who has 30+ felonies and sexual abuse charges? To the head of the line, you worthless POS.
LetMyPeopleVote
(166,528 posts)The recent memo encourages the Justice Departments Civil Division to prioritize efforts to strip some Americans of their citizenship.
MSNBC: Trumpâs DOJ issues memo on plan to strip citizenship from some naturalized Americans www.msnbc.com/top-stories/...
— (@jwwcan.bsky.social) 2025-06-30T22:45:43.522Z
https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/denaturalization-citizens-justice-department-trump-rcna216073
NPR reported Monday on a Justice Department memo from June 11, which advises prosecutors in the DOJs Civil Division to prioritize the denaturalization of various naturalized citizens over alleged infractions ranging from war crimes to material misrepresentations in their citizenship applications.
In his first term, Trump expanded former President Barack Obamas denaturalization policies. An expert told NPR why the new memos call to use civil litigation for this effort is particularly disturbing:
The DOJ memo says that the federal government will pursue denaturalization cases via civil litigation an especially concerning move, said Cassandra Robertson, a law professor at Case Western Reserve University. In civil proceedings, any individual subject to denaturalization is not entitled to an attorney, Robertson said; there is also a lower burden of proof for the government to reach, and it is far easier and faster to reach a conclusion in these cases. Robertson says that stripping Americans of citizenship through civil litigation violates due process and infringes on the rights guaranteed by the 14th Amendment.
On the heels of Fridays Supreme Court ruling in the birthright citizenship case which undercut lower courts ability to stop the executive branch from pursuing policies of disputed legality its safe to wonder whether and how the administration might wield its powers to target more Americans.
The DOJ memo asserts a broad latitude for interpretation as to what conduct might warrant denaturalization proceedings against a citizen. It lays out a list of transgressions, including torture and human trafficking, but also calls on the DOJs Civil Division to target an individual that either illegally procured naturalization or procured naturalization by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation and, rather vaguely, individuals who pose a potential danger to national security. The memo also prioritizes the ominously open-ended any other cases ... that the Division determines to be sufficiently important to pursue.
Cherokee100
(405 posts)Who gets all their stuff? Let me guess, could it be Trump and his Mafia family.
stollen
(914 posts)dalton99a
(89,486 posts)Karasu
(1,654 posts)Joinfortmill
(18,602 posts)AllaN01Bear
(26,531 posts)Six117
(267 posts)Let's start with the insurrectionists.
Evolve Dammit
(21,031 posts)GiqueCee
(2,573 posts)... are any people with the temerity to disagree mit Der Fuhrer.
For those who still support this evil fuck, I wish you an early, agonizing death, alone and despised by all who had the misfortune to meet you. YOU brought this horror on the nation, and you will never be forgiven for it. Few will mourn your passing.
bdamomma
(68,864 posts)You SF!!!!!!!!!
tulipsandroses
(7,698 posts)When he first issued the executive order to deport college students on student visas, I said he was going to go after permanent residents next and try to denaturalize naturalized citizens. Can't find that thread but that was my stance on that thread, others said no, he couldn't do anything to permanent residents or naturalized citizens. That was right after the inauguration, here we are 6 months later. He is deporting permanent residents, going after naturalized citizens, don't think for one second he wont send American born citizens to some gulag in foreign country if he can get away with it.
I don't have a lot of faith in the court anymore that he won't be able to do it.
orangecrush
(25,735 posts)There are very bad Republican politicians nearly everywhere!
Many of them are lard asses like Trump, which means they can't run very fast, making it even easier!
Rebl2
(16,696 posts)C Moon
(12,999 posts)wolfie001
(5,736 posts)Please dye already. Just keel over. thanks
Quanto Magnus
(1,176 posts)yeah, didn't think so...
They'll just go after Democrats.
Everyday, more and more, I think California should leave the United States...
LT Barclay
(3,050 posts)befuddled butt wipe. Send your thugs. Ill send back the pieces.
NoMoreRepugs
(11,492 posts)Native
(7,192 posts)Q: DeSantis has proposed deputizing the National Guard and using them as immigration judges. Would you be open to that?
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-07-01T16:46:47.526Z
TRUMP: Yes. He has my approval.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,395 posts)bdamomma
(68,864 posts)and physical health is deteriorating; his staff is covering his mental status up. Miller is pulling the strings.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,395 posts)bdamomma
(68,864 posts)they are trying to normalize his actions. You probably hear the truth of his condition on independent media like Mary Trump Media or any other independent site.
Karasu
(1,654 posts)Gimpyknee
(370 posts)KentuckyWoman
(7,140 posts)First they yank it from anyone they like who had no American parents at the time they were born in the US.
Next comes only 1 parent was a US citizen ... but only the ones they don't like.
Eventually they revoke citizenship for "criminals" - the crime being badmouthing MAGA or supporting the opposition.
And let us not forget naturalized citizens.
They've clearly said for a decade or more that they don't believe non-citizens have ANY human rights within the US, let alone Constitutional rights. Once they start revoking citizenship then they can do anything they want to you.
Yes it sounds hysterical. But judging by what they've been saying since 2007 and Trump's most recent bloviations about kidnapping citizens he doesn't like, seems like we are there.
milestogo
(21,326 posts)It is the single biggest improvement we could make to this country.
Norrrm
(2,445 posts)Trump's perfect judge... Roland Freisler
Such a keen legal mind that he put into law that original citizenship could be revoked...
Start approx 1:53 on the timeline.
Cha
(313,102 posts)Martin68
(26,182 posts)dawn5651
(711 posts)told i was nutz, that i didn't know what i was talking about.
slightlv
(6,138 posts)I'd be on the first boat out of here to Ireland... the homeland of my ancestors. I sure as hell don't want to be here anymore. I'm nearly 70 years old. I'm a veteran, having served during VietNam. I've been a public servant (civil service) since getting out of the Air Force a millenia ago. I'm now retired. I never made enough money to save up a billion dollars for retirement. Everything was paycheck to paycheck, but we had a decent life because we had family and love... even if we were short on "stuff." I don't understand these multi-zillionaire capitalists... not their desires... not their needs... and certainly not their personalities. At this point, I really don't care to understand them, either. To me, they're worse than the worst meth heads in their addiction. And that is all it is... an addiction. They got hooked via the game of Risk in the 70's and they've been playing it with OUR money ever since. Stuff 'em!
I wish EVERYONE in this country who is not maga could leave on their own accord. Leave the freaking hellhole to the magas and trump and let them either bomb it into oblivion or allow each of them to die in the gutters because everyone in the blue states (and those of us in hostile Red states who aren't Red), decided to vote with our feet and what's left of our wallets. Let him get his adoration 24/7 from the idiots who threw it all away.
The only thing I can do at my age is attend the marches and rallies, and it really makes me angry. Because I don't think those are doing a damn thing for us. In fact, whatever we protest, he just doubles down on. He is the Devil Incarnate, and I refuse to bow down to the Devil. I will not be a patsy for Evil. But I would like to get the hell out of here and into a free country where people actually matter.
I don't want to die in this hellhole, surrounded by frightened people and those with Purge fantasies and guns. And yet, when I can remember my dreams, I'm dreaming of dying. And lately, it's become too much of a release for my comfort.
I'm reaching my end point, and they're not near done. What the frack next?
soldierant
(8,743 posts)
It is possible to denaturalize a naturalized citizen, but IIRC it requires being able that they lied in their naturalization process about something which, if the truth had been told, would have prevented their naturalization. Like a Nazi from WWII swearing he was never a member of the Nazi party. And even then - there was one I read about who did exactly that and it was proven, but he could not be deported because no other nation would have him.
A citizen of this country who commits crimes here should not be deported but should be serving an appropriate sentence in a prison here. That is true whether a born citizen or a naturalized one.
Bayard
(26,042 posts)If you're not paranoid, you're not paying attention.
I thought hard about moving to another country when this mess started, but its really not feasible for us. At some ironic point, other countries will stop accepting overwhelming numbers of American refugees. Besides, it really doesn't sit well with me to be run out of my own country.
So, what do we do? Yes, we vote the bastards out--if we're allowed to vote. The protests are good, but they're not enough. trump's behavior just keeps getting worse, and he seems pretty intent on dumping the Constitution. I see the ICE capades becoming more dangerous for everybody. Remember the Home Guard during the Civil War? Congress and the Judiciary are quickly becoming inconsequential.
One way or another, this can't continue. Hard to believe one small-minded little man could bring down this country. We need new tactics. We cannot lose this fight.
no_hypocrisy
(52,355 posts)Javaman
(64,261 posts)or deport my wife to Ireland. She can be a resident there easily.
it's coming folks, don't fool yourself into thinking this won't happen.
and all the repukes will just sit on their hands.
Beartracks
(14,004 posts)Beacool
(30,427 posts)Aren't you a bad person? Do humanity a favor and deport yourself first.
LS0999
(224 posts)It's only been 6 months since the Turd was installed. We will not survive this if things this keeps going along this trend line.