Jimmy Swaggart dies at 90.

[AverageOldGuy]

Well, 'bye.

Don't know who Swaggart was? Google him.

Basically he was a Pentecostal preacher who railed against gays, loose women, booze . . . you know, all the usual sins. Until one day he was caught by the cops in Baton Rouge LA cruising for . . . well, you know. Then a local prostitute revealed her long relationship with Jimmy. And, no, the relationship was not platonic.

Little known fact: "The Killer" -- Jerry Lee Lewis -- and Swaggart were cousins. They both grew up in the Southern Pentecostal church environment, which is where Jerry Lee learned to play the piano.

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[milestogo]

1. Breaking news:

He is not welcome in heaven or hell.

[Mosby]

12. According to Christian doctrine he's heading straight to heaven.

It's called salvation theology.

ALL the Christian denominations accept this in one way or another. John 3:16 baby.

[jmowreader]

19. Matthew 7:21 says different

“Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but only the one who does the will of My Father who is in Heaven.”

So…now they have to decide whether the evil Swaggart did was the will of the Lord before they let him in.

[Mosby]

20. Nope.

A Christian cannot lose salvation. Most, if not all, of what the Bible says happens to us when we receive Christ would be invalidated if salvation could be lost. Salvation is the gift of God, and God’s gifts are “irrevocable” (Romans 11:29). A Christian cannot be un-newly created. The redeemed cannot be unpurchased. Eternal life cannot be temporary. God cannot renege on His Word. Scripture says that God does not lie (Titus 1:2).

Two common objections to the belief that a Christian cannot lose salvation concern these experiential issues: 1) What about Christians who live in a sinful, unrepentant lifestyle? 2) What about Christians who reject the faith and deny Christ? The problem with these objections is the assumption that everyone who calls himself a “Christian” has actually been born again. The Bible declares that a true Christian will not live a state of continual, unrepentant sin (1 John 3:6). The Bible also says that anyone who departs the faith is demonstrating that he was never truly a Christian (1 John 2:19). He may have been religious, he may have put on a good show, but he was never born again by the power of God. “By their fruit you will recognize them” (Matthew 7:16). The redeemed of God belong “to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God” (Romans 7:4).

Nothing can separate a child of God from the Father’s love (Romans 8:38–39). Nothing can remove a Christian from God’s hand (John 10:28–29). God guarantees eternal life and maintains the salvation He has given us. The Good Shepherd searches for the lost sheep, and, “when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home” (Luke 15:5–6). The lamb is found, and the Shepherd gladly bears the burden; our Lord takes full responsibility for bringing the lost one safely home.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-lose-salvation.html

1. You have to be "born again".
2. You have to be really, really sorry for the bad things you did.
3. Your good.

[czarjak]

22. Atonement?

It's a requirement. Reparations are part of it too. Like Jimmy and Jerry Lee, I was raised on Assembly Of God teachings. It's how I know how to spot The Phonies that use faith as a means to enrich themselves.

[Mosby]

25. That's the being sorry part.

Here's a more detailed look at Assemblies of God beliefs on salvation:

1. Salvation as a Gift: Salvation is a gift from God, received through faith in Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the cross. It's not earned through good works, but rather a free gift offered to all who believe.

2. Repentance and Faith: Salvation is received through repentance, which is turning away from sin and towards God. It also requires faith, which involves believing in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and trusting in his atoning work.

3. Justification and Regeneration: When a person repents and believes, they are justified (declared righteous in God's sight) and regenerated (born again, experiencing a spiritual renewal). This new life in Christ is a transformative experience.

4. The Role of the Holy Spirit: The Holy Spirit plays a vital role in salvation, both at the point of conversion and in the subsequent life of the believer. The Holy Spirit empowers believers for ministry and helps them to live a life pleasing to God.

5. Baptism in the Holy Spirit: Assemblies of God believes in a separate experience called the baptism in the Holy Spirit, which is distinct from the initial experience of salvation. This experience is often marked by speaking in tongues.

6. Sanctification: Sanctification is the ongoing process of becoming more like Christ, separating from sin, and growing in holiness. It is a lifelong journey that begins at salvation.

7. Assurance of Salvation: While the Assemblies of God emphasize that salvation is a gift and a transformative experience, they also believe that believers can have assurance of their salvation based on their faith and obedience to God. However, they also acknowledge that salvation can be lost through persistent unbelief and rejection of Christ.

8. The Importance of Witnessing: Assemblies of God emphasizes the importance of sharing the gospel and leading others to Christ. They believe that the Church has a mission to seek and save the lost.

[czarjak]

39. Preaching to the choir.

Have an Uncle & three Cousins who were pastors. Even if atonement meant being sorry, it's a step that's never fulfilled by most of the flock.

[markpkessinger]

24. 'Actually, the most traditional teaching of Christianity regarding death/eternal life . . .

. . . is that when one dies, one dies. And one remains dead until the last judgment, where God is the only judge. Nobody ever goes "straight to heaven,"

[Mosby]

27. Could be, I'm hardly an expert on Christianity

Is that part of end times theology?

[markpkessinger]

35. For someone who is admittedly not an expert . . .

. . . your posts on this topic certainly conveyed a certainty. In fact, what you presented as the sum total of Christian theology actually represents just one segment of it, namely, evangelical Protestantism.

[Mosby]

40. I know enough

Salvation theology is fundamental to Christianity.

[H2O Man]

28. According to some.

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Those who follow the doctrine of Santa God and Stained-Glass Jesus. But certainly not all christians drink from that child's cup.

[Mosby]

29. Religion can be whatever people want it to be.

I think that's where the term "ala-carte religion" comes from.

"A la carte religion" refers to a practice where individuals selectively choose which religious beliefs, practices, or doctrines to accept, often rejecting or ignoring aspects that don't align with their personal preferences or worldview. It's like choosing items from a menu, taking what appeals and leaving the rest. This contrasts with a more traditional, holistic approach where individuals adhere to the entirety of a religious tradition's teachings and practices.

[customerserviceguy]

32. And you can find support

for almost any position in the bible. It has been used to justify both slavery and abolition.

[H2O Man]

38. Absolutely!

[H2O Man]

37. There are two basic levels.

The visible and the invisible. The first is by far more common in our country. In christianity, it involves worshipping Jesus, having rituals, and doing whatever one pleases the rest of the week. But the level that often takes root in is shallow ..... for example, Jesus spoke against doing harm to children. Unless he was telling the only jokes found in the four gospels, one is safe in saying that should be followed in the individual home, community, and national policies. Hence, when someone attempts to justify harming others, here or anywhere else, we know they are blind and deaf.

The invisible compels one to seriously examine themself. To rarely, if ever, judge others -- unless they are destructive and harming others. To recognize that the prophet Jesus, just like the other Enlightened Ones around the earth at different times, was teaching guidelines for an inner evolution, which is the only type of evolution that humanity can experience.

[kerouac2]

2. Swaggart upon dying...

Why is it so hot up here?

[Botany]

3. Well, bye.

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[Traildogbob]

4. Old news

But I can never hear it enough. Keep repeating it. It is the ONLY good news we get in every 24 hour cycle.
😭. Sorry Jimbo, I can not manufacturer a tear like you did for show.

[Attilatheblond]

5. Welp, every dog has his day

[Scrivener7]

6. You don't say.

That's all I've got.

[Bettie]

7. And today the world is a slightly

better place without him in it.

Sadly, there are still far too many evil MF's hanging around, so this slight downtick in evil won't even register.

[Demsrule86]

8. I hate to be mean but...if there is a hell, I hope Mr. Swaggart enjoys himself there.

He was a monster...truly evil. If there is reincarnation...he should come back as a rat- it would suit him. Although, I suppose that is unfair to rats...

[3catwoman3]

33. HE can come back as a tapeworm - really ugly to look at...

and doomed to die when it kills its host.

Rats are clever and entertaining.

[Demsrule86]

34. That is a great idea rec!

[3catwoman3]

36. It's one of the few life forms I can liken Taco Don to without feeling I am insulting...

...said life form. Cockroaches, leeches, mosquitos and fleas would probably work, too, altho leeches do have contemporary medical uses.

[Emile]

9. I know another con man in the White House who

should follow his example.

[UpInArms]

10. Some bring joy when they enter,

some bring joy when they leave.

A bit of joy has arrived.

[BigMin28]

11. Micky Gilley

Was also cousin with Jimmie Swaggert and Jerry Lee Lewis. He was a singer and owner of the world's largest honky tonk Gilley's, in Pasedena Texas.

[TheProle]

15. I think it was their common grandmother who taught

Swaggart, Gilley and Lewis to play piano resulting in some stylistic overlap.

[Just1time]

13. Jimmy Swaggart dies at 90.

Good Riddance

[LetMyPeopleVote]

17. Welcome to DU

[marble falls]

42. I never realized he was picking on you so much. What did he do to you?

[cab67]

14. he was still alive?

[purr-rat beauty]

16. There's no way...

....he's crying his way out of this one

[SocialDemocrat61]

18. Welcome. You've been expected

[Initech]

21. Oh no! Well, anyway...

[Blue Full Moon]

23. The Man I met last night

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Jesus, "I never knew you."

[LW1977]

26. Blasting Ozzy Osbourne "Miracle Man"

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

30. Good riddance Jimmy you sniveling shyster!!

[Bird Lady]

31. He won't be missed.

Too bad it took so long for this hypocrite to meet his maker. I have an idea he will be met with anger and moved out of heaven to spend eternity burning in the pits of hell where he belongs.

[Rebl2]

41. 👍

[Johonny]

43. Another person that paved the way for Trump

Fake Christians that put imaginary words of God, many not found in any Bible, on the ballot. Why? To make even more money and power. These fake Christians were simply in the God business because it was a the fast lane to easy money. And they did real damage along the way to real people, but they got theirs on both ends.

I hope they bury him with his money, the pile of shit that he was.

[Duncan Grant]

47. He was a hypocrite who preached -- obedience. And his homophobia? Despicable.

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Jimmy Swaggert was Louisiana’s version of a stupid Donald Trump. He was a corrupted, greedy, lying sack of sh*t — one of the most contemptible men I’ve ever seen. A stain on humanity.

Evidence here.

[Emile]

48. It's a shame he didn't take that other con man with him.

[Aristus]

49. Well, he was just one dipshit cracker who helped make America worse.

But it's a good start...