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(55,410 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 04:42 PM Jun 27

Seems clear to me it's not "mass deportation"

It's ethnic cleansing.

They are (ab-)using deportation laws and procedures to implement part of a larger ethnic cleansing program but it seems clear that the real point is ethnic cleansing.

The willingness to sweep up citizens in the process, the complete disregard for families, jobs, industries, contributions to the community, length of time in America, and eagerness to send them to irrelevant countries, and possible torture and imprisonment for the crime of wanting to come to America and failing to stand in line still out paperwork, it all makes sense if it's ethnic cleansing.

I don't think I really have to work hard to convince anyone here that there's obvious bigotry behind it. But the term deportation, even mass deportation, doesn't convey the proper degree of evil involved. They're deporting people who have been here for decades, worked productively, committed no crimes, all because their parents didn't follow the rules when they came here. There's no public interest or policy that makes any sense that says this is a good thing; it only adds up if you've decided to get rid of a whole class of people.

Deportation can be a legitimate process, used sparingly and judiciously after due process. Even mass deportation merely conveys volume.

"Ethnic cleansing" conveys what's really going on. Sure, a few immigrants from Europe might get caught up in the sweep, but the obvious focus is on people from Spanish-speaking countries, and they're just using the tools available to get rid of "those people".

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Seems clear to me it's not "mass deportation" (Original Post) unblock Jun 27 OP
Try the term "remigration" DBoon Jun 27 #1
That covers most of it, though not the imprisonment and torture or slavery involving "third countries" unblock Jun 27 #2
Given the obvious racism, why did so many Hispanics vote for him? surfered Jun 27 #3
Why did *anyone* vote for him? unblock Jun 27 #4
The wealthy always want more. The thing of paying the politician more so they would not accept bribes will LiberalArkie Jun 27 #14
The greed never stops with them, sure. It's how they became billionaires in the first place unblock Jun 27 #15
Stability. Something every billionaire and every business type wants. They ain't getting any of that. paleotn Jun 27 #18
Exactly what it is. orangecrush Jun 27 #5
And if they sweep up a few born-in-the-USA citizens, even a few white ones --- that's the price of war erronis Jun 27 #6
The Replacement Therory has them worried Ohioboy Jun 27 #7
It became an emergency situation for them when they couldn't prevent a black man from becoming president. unblock Jun 27 #11
Yup, they grab people who follow all the rules and haven't committed any crimes IronLionZion Jun 27 #8
VERY obvious Skittles Jun 27 #9
History Iamscrewed Jun 27 #10
This IS all Stephen Miller's brainchild, so... Karasu Jun 27 #12
In The US Mr.Bee Jun 27 #13
It's 1933 Germany (or 1935 Italy), and we already know how that turned out FakeNoose Jun 27 #16
? Not sure what you mean by that. Mussolini came to power in 1923, ten years before the Nazis JHB Jun 27 #20
It's also torture BaronChocula Jun 27 #17
Yup SSJVegeta Jun 27 #19
Yes, and too bad for those who voted for the Treasonous Asshole. Cha Jun 27 #21
Indeed. Ethnic cleansing summarizes it concisely. WestMichRad Jun 27 #22

DBoon

(23,984 posts)
1. Try the term "remigration"
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 04:47 PM
Jun 27

A type of ehtnic cleansing but a more specific term for what we see.

Wikipedia:

Remigration is a far-right European concept of ethnic cleansing[1] via the mass deportation or promoted voluntary return of non-white immigrants and their descendants, usually including those born in Europe, to their place of racial ancestry, often with no regard for their citizenship or legal status.[2][3] It is popular especially within the Identitarian movement.[4][5] Some proponents of remigration suggest excluding some persons with non-European background from such a mass deportation, based on a varyingly-defined degree of assimilation into European culture.[6][7][8]

Advocates of remigration promote the concept in pursuit of ethno-cultural homogeneity.[8] According to Deutsche Welle, ethnopluralism, the Nouvelle Droite concept that different ethnicities require their own segregated living spaces, creates a need for remigration of people with "foreign roots".[9] The Mexican scholar José Ángel Maldonado has compared the idea to a "soft type of ethnic cleansing under the guise of deportation and segregation".[10]

unblock

(55,410 posts)
2. That covers most of it, though not the imprisonment and torture or slavery involving "third countries"
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 04:52 PM
Jun 27

Moreover, I think remigration is the term those ethnic cleansers prefer as it doesn't sound as nefarious as it is.

unblock

(55,410 posts)
4. Why did *anyone* vote for him?
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 05:14 PM
Jun 27

Literally anyone who voted for him made a mistake of epic proportions. I think even billionaires like musk are regretting it.

Sure, he got all those investigation killed, but he can't be happy with his net worth going south. Billionaires had it good and got greedy and I think they're figuring out they were probably happier with someone competent at the helm even if taxes were a little higher. They always had ways to avoid taxes anyway.

LiberalArkie

(18,623 posts)
14. The wealthy always want more. The thing of paying the politician more so they would not accept bribes will
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 06:36 PM
Jun 27

never work. Once they make enough where they are in an upper income position, they then want more and more and more.

unblock

(55,410 posts)
15. The greed never stops with them, sure. It's how they became billionaires in the first place
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 06:56 PM
Jun 27

But it can backfire spectacularly. Donnie is incompetent enough to destroy entire industries, or at least crater their valuations.

paleotn

(20,627 posts)
18. Stability. Something every billionaire and every business type wants. They ain't getting any of that.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 07:29 PM
Jun 27

How do you plan when you have no idea what the loon is going to do next? Plus, blowing up existing EV incentives in the "piece of shit" bill will crush Tesla. The big boys have hybrids and conventional vehicles to sell. Tesla has none of that, but represents virtually all of Elmo's net worth. Of all the oligarchs, Elmo got screwed the hardest. Serves him right.

erronis

(20,676 posts)
6. And if they sweep up a few born-in-the-USA citizens, even a few white ones --- that's the price of war
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 06:01 PM
Jun 27

It is ethnic cleansing. It is extraordinary renditions. It is crimes against humanity.

Ohioboy

(3,721 posts)
7. The Replacement Therory has them worried
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 06:03 PM
Jun 27

They are afraid the US population won't be as strongly white someday.

unblock

(55,410 posts)
11. It became an emergency situation for them when they couldn't prevent a black man from becoming president.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 06:26 PM
Jun 27

Clearly the "American experiment" has proven a failure and they needed to install a dictator to restore white rule.

Some seriously evil people are behind this, they are nearly complete in destroying what made America great.

IronLionZion

(49,486 posts)
8. Yup, they grab people who follow all the rules and haven't committed any crimes
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 06:11 PM
Jun 27

they have grabbed several US citizens who were born here. They have grabbed people with documents, jobs, pay taxes, do everything they say an American is supposed to do. None of that matters when you're brown.

Iamscrewed

(486 posts)
10. History
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 06:15 PM
Jun 27

Things like this shit have happened throughout human history around the world. Some of us knew this was coming. Now it's likely to be a bloody mess to get it stopped and cleaned up.

JHB

(37,794 posts)
20. ? Not sure what you mean by that. Mussolini came to power in 1923, ten years before the Nazis
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 07:39 PM
Jun 27

It wasn't until after Hitler's rise to power that Mussolini was downgraded to his comedy sidekick. Before then, he was Mr. Fascism. The word itself originates with his party.

BaronChocula

(3,012 posts)
17. It's also torture
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 07:25 PM
Jun 27

given the reports of insufficient water and food available to detainees. Some are dying while being held.The brutality during arrests is a matter of record.

Cha

(313,131 posts)
21. Yes, and too bad for those who voted for the Treasonous Asshole.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 07:39 PM
Jun 27

The Big Bloated Crock of Shite Fooled Too Many.

WestMichRad

(2,404 posts)
22. Indeed. Ethnic cleansing summarizes it concisely.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 07:44 PM
Jun 27

If you look at world history, many times similar repressions of population segments have occurred. The current batch of primitives that try to pass as our political leaders are following an old road.

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