Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMaddow Blog-trump's response to intelligence assessment on Iran strikes takes an incoherent turn
The intelligence about the U.S. strikes on Iranian targets cant be conclusive and inconclusive at the same time.
At his NATO presser, Trump suggested that US intel doesnât know for sure what happened to Iranâs nuclear sites as part of Saturday's strikes.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-06-25T13:08:42.838Z
He also said Iranâs nuclear sites were definitely obliterated.
He seemed oblivious to the incoherence and contradictions. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-response-intelligence-assessment-iran-strikes-takes-incoherent-rcna214937
On Tuesday, the world learned of a preliminary intelligence assessment from the Pentagons Defense Intelligence Agency, which jolted the public and political debate. As NBC News confirmed, the initial assessment concluded that the U.S. airstrikes were not as effective as Trump claimed, and the mission set Irans nuclear program back by only three to six months.
The day after this assessment reached the public, the president responded to the news in a decidedly Trumpian way. NBC News reported:
Predictably, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Secretary of State Marco Rubio echoed the presidents comments. (The New York Times reported that Trump has closely monitored which members of his administration have used the specific words he wants to hear.)
There were some key problems with the Republicans rhetoric at his NATO press conference, starting with the fact that he kept contradicting himself in incoherent ways.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:aunpu65mdrhwfie7ynymlzeh/post/3lsghvg7gsc2z
Pressed on the efficacy of the mission and the accuracy of the intelligence, Trump said, The intelligence was very inconclusive. The intelligence says we dont know. It could have been very severe. Thats what the intelligence says. So I guess thats correct. But I think we can take the we dont know. It was very severe. It was obliteration.......
Even by Trump standards, this has become bizarre. Indeed, he cant have it both ways. On the one hand, the president wants the public to believe the Iranian targets were completely and totally obliterated and completely destroyed, as part of one of the most successful military strikes in history. On the other, he also wants the public to believe the intelligence on the mission was very inconclusive and the United States simply doesnt know, despite the initial assessment that concluded that Trumps claims were simply at odds with the facts.
In recent months, the Republican has earned a reputation for dishonesty, recklessness and expressing indifference to his own countrys intelligence. The story of the Iranian strikes he approved has quickly reached the point at which Trump is checking all of these boxes at the same time.
The day after this assessment reached the public, the president responded to the news in a decidedly Trumpian way. NBC News reported:
Trump and his top Cabinet officials are disputing reports that indicate the U.S. airstrikes on Iranian nuclear enrichment facilities set Irans nuclear program back by only a few months despite his initial claim that the U.S. obliterated the program. Speaking to reporters in the Netherlands today, Trump repeatedly referred to the strikes as causing obliteration. He claimed that he thinks the U.S. strikes set Iran back decades.
Predictably, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Secretary of State Marco Rubio echoed the presidents comments. (The New York Times reported that Trump has closely monitored which members of his administration have used the specific words he wants to hear.)
There were some key problems with the Republicans rhetoric at his NATO press conference, starting with the fact that he kept contradicting himself in incoherent ways.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:aunpu65mdrhwfie7ynymlzeh/post/3lsghvg7gsc2z
Link to tweet
Pressed on the efficacy of the mission and the accuracy of the intelligence, Trump said, The intelligence was very inconclusive. The intelligence says we dont know. It could have been very severe. Thats what the intelligence says. So I guess thats correct. But I think we can take the we dont know. It was very severe. It was obliteration.......
Even by Trump standards, this has become bizarre. Indeed, he cant have it both ways. On the one hand, the president wants the public to believe the Iranian targets were completely and totally obliterated and completely destroyed, as part of one of the most successful military strikes in history. On the other, he also wants the public to believe the intelligence on the mission was very inconclusive and the United States simply doesnt know, despite the initial assessment that concluded that Trumps claims were simply at odds with the facts.
In recent months, the Republican has earned a reputation for dishonesty, recklessness and expressing indifference to his own countrys intelligence. The story of the Iranian strikes he approved has quickly reached the point at which Trump is checking all of these boxes at the same time.
1 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

Maddow Blog-trump's response to intelligence assessment on Iran strikes takes an incoherent turn (Original Post)
LetMyPeopleVote
Yesterday
OP
Troth_Aint_Truth
(2 posts)1. Liar in Chief
Only the most gullible would not doubt and question any statement Trump makes. A documented, habitual and self-serving liar (30,000 exposed his last term) has zero credibility. That he has certainly obliterated.