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House of Roberts

(6,097 posts) Wed Jun 25, 2025, 10:22 AM Wednesday

Trump isn't the reason NATO is pledging to spend 5% of GDP.

It's Putin. Also, knowing that under Trump, they have no assurance he'd hold up his end of the agreement and help them.

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Trump isn't the reason NATO is pledging to spend 5% of GDP. (Original Post) House of Roberts Wednesday OP

they are only keeping him as a member for the nukes rampartd Wednesday #1

It's both Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #2

rampartd

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1. they are only keeping him as a member for the nukes

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Wed Jun 25, 2025, 10:58 AM

Wednesday

and maybe some hope thar we can rid ourselves of him.

Fiendish Thingy

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2. It's both

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Wed Jun 25, 2025, 11:59 AM

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The rest of NATO knows that, because of Trump, they will likely have to face Putin without the support of the US, and so raising their defence budgets is the only option.

While it could be painful in the short run for Europe, in the long run I think it’s for the best, especially if France and the UK expand their nuclear arsenal as a deterrent to Putin and any other dictators (*cough*Orban*cough*) who get any ideas…

In the long run it will be bad for the US, who will be isolated militarily and economically from the rest of the world.

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