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orangecrush

(25,765 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:48 PM Jun 24

"The U.S. Constitution is Dead"




As long as these six justices control the U.S. Supreme Court, the U.S. Constitution is dead.

There's no federal republic left to save, only states.

@vox.com

www.vox.com/scotus/41758...

California Centric (@ic.institute) 2025-06-24T04:28:07.139Z




The President is corrupt.
The Supreme Court is corrupt.
The Congress is corrupt.
Some of the state legislatures are corrupt.
Some of the lower court judges are corrupt.
The states that still have a functioning legislature and governor and the lower courts are the only bulwark remaining

Elizabeth Pearce (@elizabethpearce.bsky.social) 2025-06-25T02:12:34.240Z
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"The U.S. Constitution is Dead" (Original Post) orangecrush Jun 24 OP
Nothing left to do but turn of the light and walk out the door. The Constitution isn't dead. Anymore that it was ... marble falls Jun 24 #1
soon? purple_haze Jun 24 #2
I'm ready. ICE will show up here one day and I am willing to take a beating and be arrested to stop them ... marble falls Jun 24 #4
I think this post pisses me off because it equate Demorcrats to MAGA. Botherism is steaming heap of shit. marble falls Jun 24 #3
The first thing that jumped out was "the Congress". chowder66 Jun 25 #5
I took it differently orangecrush Jun 25 #9
Then why not say "Republicans in Congress"? Why are Democrats supposed to be polite and be circumspect ... marble falls Jun 25 #14
I'm not sure NJCher Jun 25 #12
If you have a bag that is filled with manure and honey 50/50, is it a bag of manure or a bag of honey? ... marble falls Jun 25 #15
Ok, I understand NJCher Jun 26 #21
they work for TRUMP Skittles Jun 25 #6
Hey Gavin BidenRocks Jun 25 #7
Re-join Mexico JoseBalow Jun 25 #11
I'm here for the fight however it ends, I will not be chased out. marble falls Jun 25 #16
G-d damn the Republicans and if He don't fuck Him, too. rickyhall Jun 25 #8
some of them sound off effectively NJCher Jun 25 #10
Thank you, I was unaware orangecrush Jun 25 #13
That attitude is one we all need to embrace. marble falls Jun 25 #17
Agree orangecrush Jun 25 #18
W. Shrub said, "It's just a piece of paper." And he wasn't being original. UTUSN Jun 25 #19
I remember that. orangecrush Jun 25 #20

marble falls

(67,055 posts)
1. Nothing left to do but turn of the light and walk out the door. The Constitution isn't dead. Anymore that it was ...
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:55 PM
Jun 24

... under Harding, Nixon, Reagan, GW Bush.

When are we ALL going to fight back???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

marble falls

(67,055 posts)
4. I'm ready. ICE will show up here one day and I am willing to take a beating and be arrested to stop them ...
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 11:04 PM
Jun 24

... at 75 I haven't anything to lose but my freedom. I swore an Oath to the Constitution and I took it very serious.

marble falls

(67,055 posts)
3. I think this post pisses me off because it equate Demorcrats to MAGA. Botherism is steaming heap of shit.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 11:00 PM
Jun 24

chowder66

(10,986 posts)
5. The first thing that jumped out was "the Congress".
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 01:03 AM
Jun 25

That would be the republicans in congress. And you’re right, the Constitution isn’t dead but the levers are broken.

orangecrush

(25,765 posts)
9. I took it differently
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 02:05 AM
Jun 25

With a Republican majority, Congress as an institution has been corrupted, as it is now a tool for dear leader.

marble falls

(67,055 posts)
14. Then why not say "Republicans in Congress"? Why are Democrats supposed to be polite and be circumspect ...
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 09:01 AM
Jun 25

... and be allowed to be identified along with the GOP scoundrels in Congress? Their majority is less than 2 or 3% in Congress but Congress is 100% corrupt?

People used to kill Buffalo just for the tongue and hides. Are we going to kill our system because of the corruptipn of the 2-3%???

NJCher

(40,742 posts)
12. I'm not sure
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 02:19 AM
Jun 25

I understand what you're saying. What is "botherism?" And I don't see equating Dems to MAGA.

Please understand that I'm not challenging you. I genuinely want to understand your point of view, but don't fpr tje reasons I've explained.

marble falls

(67,055 posts)
15. If you have a bag that is filled with manure and honey 50/50, is it a bag of manure or a bag of honey? ...
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 09:15 AM
Jun 25

... All Congress is not corrupt and saying otherwise casts a pall on the system instead of focusing on the actual corruption and the actually corrupt. It suppresses the vote by casting doubts about the institution vs the corrupt in the the institution. Especially the corruption is not the fault of the corrupt, but the fault of the voters. We do not vote in proportion to our numbers and it's allowed the GOP vote to be worth more a Democratic vote, gerrymandering because Democrats didn't vote in State election on non presidential elections.

NJCher

(40,742 posts)
10. some of them sound off effectively
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 02:14 AM
Jun 25

Chris Murphy, Bernie, AOC, Adam Schiff, and Jamie Raskin. I know I'm forgetting a few, but the ones I mention are very astute and do cut them off at the knees. Justice Sotomayor issued a lengthy dissent to this decision.

The ic.institute (first post from Bluesky) is for California secession. I admit that I am thinking longingly of a secession of the Northeastern states. We Northeasterners and California have the money and the intellect. If the rest of this country wants to go down this road, let them, but do it on their own, not with our money. Here's how that breaks out:

Which states send more to the federal government than they receive?
In terms of net contributions, 19 states sent more to the federal government than they received in 2023. The largest gaps were in New York ($89 billion), California ($78 billion), and New Jersey ($70 billion).

On a per-person basis, Delaware ($10,505), Minnesota ($7,605), and New Jersey ($7,456) contributed the highest net total.

https://usafacts.org

This does not solve the problem for our fellow Democrats in red states, and that is a big problem. I don't know what to do about that, either. It is a huge expenditure of energy, time, and money to be fighting these backward, corrupt republicans all the time. There are so many better things to be doing for imperative issues like climate change. If we can be the example, maybe the rest of the country will see what the country can be. It's better to have some of the country with Constitutional principles than none.



orangecrush

(25,765 posts)
13. Thank you, I was unaware
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 02:34 AM
Jun 25

Of what the IC institute advocated.

I hope it won't come to secession, which would be a dream come true for Putin.

I am all for the spirit of blue state resistance in whatever and all for s that may take, including tax reaistance. Blue states should refuse to fund his lunacy.
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