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IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:58 PM Jun 24

pregnant fiance of American lost her baby in ICE detention after they denied prenatal care after she pleaded for help f

LENOIR CITY, TN — pregnant fiancée of an American lost her baby in ICE detention after they denied her prenatal care after pleading for help for days.

(@ltgovmcnally & @lowellrussell21’s district)

Unimaginable cruelty. @MarshaBlackburn @SenatorHagerty


pregnant fiancée of an American lost her baby in ICE detention after they denied her prenatal care after pleading for help for days.

LENOIR CITY, TN — pregnant fiancée of an American lost her baby in ICE detention after they denied her prenatal care after pleading for help for days. (@ltgovmcnally & @lowellrussell21’s district)

Unimaginable cruelty. @MarshaBlackburn @SenatorHagerty
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pregnant fiance of American lost her baby in ICE detention after they denied prenatal care after she pleaded for help f (Original Post) IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 24 OP
My God. Irish_Dem Jun 24 #1
Animals aren't deliberately malicious nt GenThePerservering Jun 24 #7
Correction... 2naSalit Jun 24 #12
True. Nazi Gestapo monsters and bastards. Irish_Dem Jun 24 #27
Their mind set is one less anchor baby. For them mission was accomplished. flashman13 Jun 24 #38
The Ice gestapo is at war with the US and these are war crimes. Irish_Dem Jun 25 #45
They seldom think like that, it is usually "1 less wet**k". That is the only way they think. Been that way for decades. LiberalArkie Jun 25 #56
I was trying to be polite. Of course that's what they really think. flashman13 Jun 25 #62
For just about all my life I was polite. I had never even uttered LiberalArkie Jun 26 #66
Exactly. This is torture. BaronChocula Jun 25 #61
We can assume they are covering up the death rate. Irish_Dem Jun 25 #64
I want to say things but the mods would have to throw me across the street. chouchou Jun 24 #2
I kept typing words I had to delete. Irish_Dem Jun 24 #28
Assholes, every one Bettie Jun 24 #3
Women get charged with murder, men get raises and a bonus. Irish_Dem Jun 24 #29
Pro life party maspaha Jun 24 #4
Effin monsters malaise Jun 24 #5
How long until Iamscrewed Jun 24 #6
I think we should... 2naSalit Jun 24 #13
Despicable monsters. How can anyone be so inhumane, uncaring. I hate to think they're even Americans. Fla Dem Jun 24 #8
AINO speak easy Jun 24 #18
Pro-life IronLionZion Jun 24 #9
GOP doesn't care about the woman, any woman. They despise us. Hekate Jun 24 #37
Pic Of The Moment: Trump-Appointed Judge Compares Pregnant Women To Wild Animals Norrrm Jun 24 #10
To such as he, women are *things* to be manipulated and controlled, and if we try to escape... Hekate Jun 24 #42
Oh...him (I remember). He's a Perfect Gilead Judge. Bastard! electric_blue68 Jun 25 #59
Someone should show him pictures of this UpInArms Jun 25 #50
It might cause him "aesthetic injury". Norrrm Jun 25 #52
my solution moonshinegnomie Jun 24 #11
Trump ramps up rhetoric on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.' Norrrm Jun 24 #14
Laying the groundwork for concentration camps -- which already seem to be here Hekate Jun 24 #43
holy crap. This is really disgusting EVIL stuff ecstatic Jun 24 #15
the depravity is beyond stillcool Jun 24 #16
Trump and his adminisration are the animals. hadEnuf Jun 24 #17
Move on folks, nothing to see here except Blue Dotty Jun 24 #19
Guards shackled her feet. democrank Jun 24 #20
Nobel Peace Prize material F'SURE. B.See Jun 24 #21
No-bid contracts for Trump's pals to hold the people. Norrrm Jun 24 #22
My first thought was for these people to live long, long lives without a moment's peace but LoisB Jun 24 #23
There will be trials. Joinfortmill Jun 24 #24
Oh, i hope TN finds SOMEBODY guilty of murder, and then the feds step in, Volaris Jun 25 #48
Maybe the DU Administrators will establish a static post that will allow DUers to write down the people in2herbs Jun 24 #25
I am having some really, really dark thoughts about ICE sakabatou Jun 24 #26
These assholes Traildogbob Jun 24 #30
Where did Trump find so many psychopath guards and agents? Irish_Dem Jun 24 #31
We keep saying, it can't get any worse... kentuck Jun 24 #32
Murder. multigraincracker Jun 24 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Martin68 Jun 24 #34
Someone should be made to pay for this... Jack Valentino Jun 24 #35
Would it have been OK if she wasn't the fianc of an American? Ms. Toad Jun 24 #36
Cruelty is the point...nt Wounded Bear Jun 24 #39
I'm speechless PatSeg Jun 24 #40
Prolife, doncha know. 3catwoman3 Jun 24 #41
It should be illegal in all circumstances for a woman to be shackled while giving birth dlk Jun 24 #44
"republicon family values" are an abomination BoRaGard Jun 25 #46
Isnt the killing of a fetus illegal in TN, per the Supreme Court? Volaris Jun 25 #47
Where is this story nationally? Boomerproud Jun 25 #49
"What do you want to do with the baby's remains?" Bayard Jun 25 #51
Thanks to ICE and other paid thugs with badges, America has crossed the line from hateful to grotesque. Ping Tung Jun 25 #53
So question, so many of these RW states have extreme abortion laws. Women have been arrested for miscarriages. tulipsandroses Jun 25 #54
horrifying... From The Ashes Jun 25 #55
The pro life party at it again. EllieBC Jun 25 #57
They should sue ICE, Noem, Trump, et al. Texin Jun 25 #58
Hideous, Heinous outcome! That poor woman, and her husband. Oversight NOW. BETTER Yet, STOP ICE electric_blue68 Jun 25 #60
Manslaughter purr-rat beauty Jun 25 #63
Pro life Rebl2 Jun 25 #65

flashman13

(1,407 posts)
38. Their mind set is one less anchor baby. For them mission was accomplished.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:25 PM
Jun 24

They are all heartless bastards.

LiberalArkie

(18,621 posts)
56. They seldom think like that, it is usually "1 less wet**k". That is the only way they think. Been that way for decades.
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 06:51 PM
Jun 25

They do not consider them as humans, like they did not consider blacks, Native Americans, Chinese workers etc as humans

LiberalArkie

(18,621 posts)
66. For just about all my life I was polite. I had never even uttered
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 08:14 AM
Jun 26

A curse word until I was in my 60’s

But I think I am past all that now. Being polite and gentlemanly I think may have put us where we are now.

Irish_Dem

(72,509 posts)
64. We can assume they are covering up the death rate.
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 08:51 PM
Jun 25

Kidnapping people who need to be on medication.
People in dismal conditions with pre-existing conditions.
People who are being beaten up with no medical care to take care of injuries.
People being sexually assaulted, murdered.

chouchou

(2,158 posts)
2. I want to say things but the mods would have to throw me across the street.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:05 PM
Jun 24

(I wouldn't blame them)

Irish_Dem

(72,509 posts)
28. I kept typing words I had to delete.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:35 PM
Jun 24

Settled on something innocuous.

Basically I hope these bastards go straight to hell.

Bettie

(18,591 posts)
3. Assholes, every one
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:25 PM
Jun 24

of them.

Funny, if she had terminated the pregnancy LONG before the point she was at, they'd have charged her with murder.

But they are 100% cool with ending her wanted pregnancy through neglect and as cruelly as possible.

These. Are. Concentration. Camps.

Irish_Dem

(72,509 posts)
29. Women get charged with murder, men get raises and a bonus.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:37 PM
Jun 24

Yes these are Nazi death camps.

Fla Dem

(26,897 posts)
8. Despicable monsters. How can anyone be so inhumane, uncaring. I hate to think they're even Americans.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:32 PM
Jun 24

Hekate

(98,596 posts)
42. To such as he, women are *things* to be manipulated and controlled, and if we try to escape...
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:46 PM
Jun 24

…while pregnant, we should be hunted down by bounty hunters, and tossed in jail. Just read the new/old laws if you doubt my interpretation.

Very shortly it will be a man’s world again, if he and his ilk get their way.

Talking to Dad: “My grades are really good, better even than my brothers. I really want to go to college.” “Well, my dear, your brothers have to prepare for a career. You are just going to get married and have babies.”
Job interview: “Are you married? Plan to have children? …….. After due consideration, we’ve decided to give the job to a man, because you’ll just get pregnant and leave.”

Dobbs didn’t send us back any 50 years — it was a full century and then some. Unplanned enforced childbearing is a curse. Contraception makes everything possible.

Yes, I remember Ho and that statement very well. The guy’s a pig.

electric_blue68

(22,446 posts)
59. Oh...him (I remember). He's a Perfect Gilead Judge. Bastard!
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 07:10 PM
Jun 25
For those who don't know Gilead, fictional country that took over most of the USA in an Earth where the birthrate has severly dropped [The Handmaid's Tale] is where some fertile woman are raped monthly, and forced to bear children for high ranking officials (male commanders).

One of the worse of original Commanders complaining about women getting too educated, and having big jobs when they need to fulfill their "biological destiny".

FU, Judge!

UpInArms

(53,143 posts)
50. Someone should show him pictures of this
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 01:52 PM
Jun 25

Woman’s dead child … he is culpable in its murder

moonshinegnomie

(3,528 posts)
11. my solution
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:42 PM
Jun 24

take whoever was involved in denying her care at the facility and lock them up until such time as the migrants child is restored to life. ie: life w/o parole in prison

Norrrm

(2,445 posts)
14. Trump ramps up rhetoric on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.'
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:47 PM
Jun 24

Trump ramps up rhetoric on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/05/16/trump-immigrants-animals-mexico-democrats-sanctuary-cities/617252002/

ecstatic

(34,860 posts)
15. holy crap. This is really disgusting EVIL stuff
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:52 PM
Jun 24

I'm horrified and embarrassed. We really have to make republicans pay. They refuse to do their job of oversight.

Blue Dotty

(137 posts)
19. Move on folks, nothing to see here except
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:03 PM
Jun 24

the U.S. and ICE committing crimes against humanity. But be sure to put those 10 Commandments up in the schools and disregard women's rights while ranting about the rights of the WHITE fetus.

LoisB

(11,110 posts)
23. My first thought was for these people to live long, long lives without a moment's peace but
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:12 PM
Jun 24

then I realized that would require a guilty conscience and these "people" have no conscience.

Volaris

(10,947 posts)
48. Oh, i hope TN finds SOMEBODY guilty of murder, and then the feds step in,
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 06:25 AM
Jun 25

So the SC can uphold their finely crafted argument about how this is a State issue, and belongs nowhere NEAR a Federal Court.

Pam Bondi is BEYOND fucked either way on this one, and I'm fucking HERE FOR IT.

in2herbs

(3,840 posts)
25. Maybe the DU Administrators will establish a static post that will allow DUers to write down the people
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:29 PM
Jun 24

who need to be held accountable in the future because there's frankly getting to be too many to count and they shouldn't be allowed to skate on their inhumanity.

Traildogbob

(11,518 posts)
30. These assholes
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:37 PM
Jun 24

Want to convict a mother that has a miscarriage or in any way loses a child during her pregnancy but basically they murdered this woman’s child.
There is Not enough horror in my imagination to fill My desire to have happen to them all.
But I am getting there with each passing day of MAGA hell.

Response to IrishBubbaLiberal (Original post)

Ms. Toad

(37,332 posts)
36. Would it have been OK if she wasn't the fianc of an American?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:17 PM
Jun 24

As far as I'm concerned, no human being should be treated this way - and I get concerned when the wrong is somehow implied to be worse because the person being treated this way is American, or connected to an American.

PatSeg

(50,637 posts)
40. I'm speechless
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:26 PM
Jun 24

I've run out of words.

Have we crossed the Rubicon? I don't see how we can ever go back.

dlk

(12,792 posts)
44. It should be illegal in all circumstances for a woman to be shackled while giving birth
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 11:37 PM
Jun 24

It’s completely barbaric and sadistic, by design. What a third world country we are.

Volaris

(10,947 posts)
47. Isnt the killing of a fetus illegal in TN, per the Supreme Court?
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 06:17 AM
Jun 25

Oh nevermind, she wasn't deported to the country with access to healthcare until AFTER her baby died.

If it's illegal to terminate a pregnancy in TN, then the FETUS is entitled to Due Process, right? Was SHE entitled to Due Process that ICE didn't give her, in violation of the SC Order?
ICE is as responsible for this baby's death as if she were hit by a drunk driver. If she had been, that drunk would likley spend most of the rest if his life behind TN bars.
Her husband is American. I want SOMEBODY dragged screaming into court to explain why these murderers of A BABY shouldn't go to prison.

Bayard

(26,042 posts)
51. "What do you want to do with the baby's remains?"
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 02:08 PM
Jun 25

A social worker called the father to ask him that--right after he found out the baby had died.

Totally heartless, cruel, and despicable.

Ping Tung

(3,068 posts)
53. Thanks to ICE and other paid thugs with badges, America has crossed the line from hateful to grotesque.
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 02:23 PM
Jun 25

tulipsandroses

(7,698 posts)
54. So question, so many of these RW states have extreme abortion laws. Women have been arrested for miscarriages.
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 03:11 PM
Jun 25

One woman was charged after she miscarried after she was shot - allegedly she started the altercation that lead to her being shot. A more recent case, a man drugged his girlfriend with abortion meds without her knowledge to get rid of the pregnancy. He was charged for what he did to the fetus, not what he did to the woman. As if drugging someone against their will is OK.
Following RW logic, shouldn't there be charges in this case?. This wanton disregard and callousness lead to this. Where are the fetus rights folks??
Or is it OK when the government does it?

electric_blue68

(22,446 posts)
60. Hideous, Heinous outcome! That poor woman, and her husband. Oversight NOW. BETTER Yet, STOP ICE
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 07:18 PM
Jun 25

There probably is a limited place for ICEC if they actually did their of job of getting genuine crimials, and not undocumented people w/o a record.

But that's not what's happening ! So you get all kinds of cruelty, injury, and even death.

purr-rat beauty

(752 posts)
63. Manslaughter
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 07:23 PM
Jun 25

No ifs and or butts, once in custody these individuals wellbeing are the responsibility of the Gestapo and they deserve consequences for harm or fatalities.

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