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Confederate flag: (Original Post) applegrove Tuesday OP
This message was self-deleted by its author wcmagumba Tuesday #1
Love it 😍. n/t iluvtennis Tuesday #2
Sure.. Permanut Tuesday #3
The only relevant Confederate flag ThoughtCriminal Tuesday #4
It's about honoring your Democrat heritage? Norrrm Tuesday #5
My Democratic Heritage started with Franklin Roosevent and Linden Johnson. rickyhall Wednesday #44
Hot bacon dressing on that potato salad too. Clouds Passing Tuesday #6
If someone tells you to eat cornbread, you listen to them. Xavier Breath Tuesday #7
I only eat cornbread MissouriDem47 Tuesday #10
I hate cornbread! tblue37 Tuesday #26
I truly wish H2O Man Tuesday #8
I thought they did already. paleotn Tuesday #14
Thanks. H2O Man Tuesday #18
Heirlooms... Bettie Tuesday #22
Many years ago, H2O Man Tuesday #29
LOL...ah yes, our beloved children Bettie Tuesday #30
He is very H2O Man Tuesday #31
Yes, there's at least one in every family Bettie Tuesday #34
Oh, man. Those are priceless! paleotn Wednesday #47
They could put it in a combo pack with the Gadsden and Trump flag versions. Xavier Breath Tuesday #16
The version of the Confederate flag most commonly displayed these days and the one she's probably Fil1957 Tuesday #9
Well said, Amy Colleen. (nt) Paladin Tuesday #11
I lived in the south for a few years a long time ago PatSeg Tuesday #12
Oh come on now.... Melon Tuesday #15
Sure, it wasn't all bad PatSeg Tuesday #32
I really don't see it anymore. Melon Wednesday #35
That's good to know PatSeg Wednesday #37
Very reassuring to know...thanks.... but what is their obsession with guns? Playingmantis Wednesday #40
The south denied black folks their rights Keepthesoulalive Wednesday #46
You sound like you also live in far South? Melon Wednesday #48
South Georgia Keepthesoulalive Wednesday #49
Out of a cool whip bowl Norrrm Tuesday #17
That is so true PatSeg Tuesday #33
DU needs a "love this" button BaronChocula Tuesday #13
Love this! Picaro Tuesday #19
My southern heritage as a LOSER!!! JT45242 Tuesday #20
The confederate flag, like the swastika, nazi flag is the flag of losers dlk Tuesday #21
Oh, well said. Very well said! 3catwoman3 Tuesday #23
Southern Heritage? Cirsium Tuesday #24
Thank you for this. I grew up in the county in West Virginia Tanuki Wednesday #42
Share this !!! Joinfortmill Tuesday #25
Absolutely! SheltieLover Tuesday #27
should end with "shut the fuck up" Skittles Tuesday #28
The only confederate flag that mattered. Ray Bruns Wednesday #36
The last confederate flag......... bill Wednesday #38
Spot on! Emile Wednesday #39
and kiss my grits..... twodogsbarking Wednesday #41
Truth. Martin68 Wednesday #43
Hell... lonely bird Wednesday #45

Response to applegrove (Original post)

ThoughtCriminal

(14,582 posts)
4. The only relevant Confederate flag
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 05:56 PM
Tuesday

was the last one


This towel was used as a flag of truce by Confederate troops during Gen. Robert E. Lee’s surrender at Appomattox Court House, Virginia, on April 9, 1865. It was preserved by Gen. George A. Custer, who was present at the surrender.

https://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?id=NMAH-2008-5453&max=600

Norrrm

(2,095 posts)
5. It's about honoring your Democrat heritage?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 06:22 PM
Tuesday

Thank God you republicans won that Republican War of Northern Aggression back in the 1860s.

H2O Man

(77,052 posts)
18. Thanks.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:53 PM
Tuesday

I didn't know that. My youngest daughter gave some rolls with the felon's mug on them to my cousin and I. Heirlooms to be handed down to future generations.

Bettie

(18,465 posts)
22. Heirlooms...
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:12 PM
Tuesday

I have three sons and only two Obama's birth certificate coffee mugs.

The two older ones have already called "dibs".

H2O Man

(77,052 posts)
29. Many years ago,
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:43 PM
Tuesday

one of my sons was here for a weekend from college. He was looking at my artifact collection, and asked if I would leave it to him when I died? I said yeah, sure what ever. He said, "Well could you hurry up? It would look great in my dorm."

Bettie

(18,465 posts)
30. LOL...ah yes, our beloved children
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:46 PM
Tuesday

say the funniest things! Good to see you raised him with the right kind of humor!

H2O Man

(77,052 posts)
31. He is very
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:50 PM
Tuesday

funny. A number of people encourage him to do stand-up.

Yet, sometimes, we get the last laugh ...... his almost 3-year old son is just like he was. And I remember my father saying to me, when my son was that age, "there's my revenge." Some kids are a bit more of a challenge!

Bettie

(18,465 posts)
34. Yes, there's at least one in every family
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:55 PM
Tuesday

I got one just like me. Now, he plays D&D with the group I've been playing with since he was a toddler (some of the other players were children then too).

My DH got two just like him...he must have been worse than I was as a kid!

And maybe yours should try stand-up, get out of his comfort zone. Open mic nights are everywhere these days!

ETA: It was nice to talk about something not about...well, you know.

Fil1957

(113 posts)
9. The version of the Confederate flag most commonly displayed these days and the one she's probably
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 06:55 PM
Tuesday

referring to is the battle flag. Isn't a battle by its nature a matter of hate?

PatSeg

(50,454 posts)
12. I lived in the south for a few years a long time ago
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:00 PM
Tuesday

I never saw any heritage worth honoring. Ignorance, poverty, and racism was most of what I witnessed.

Melon

(452 posts)
15. Oh come on now....
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:27 PM
Tuesday

I’ve live down south half my life. I’ve witnessed just as much if not more ignorance from the northeast or Midwest.

We live to declare others as inferior because we come from different regions, branding one culture as inferior. Then get on and complain when we lose support from some areas. Crazy thinking.

PatSeg

(50,454 posts)
32. Sure, it wasn't all bad
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 09:50 PM
Tuesday

and I made some great friends, but in so many ways it was like living in a different time. I was able to adapt, but in retrospect, it really was a very different world.

Yes, I've encountered ignorance and bigotry in other areas of the country, but nothing came close to what I experienced in the south including the pride so many took in being ignorant. I don't like broad generalizations and I knew some more openminded and enlightened people, but invariably, most of them moved away.

Edit to add: I guess my main reaction was the mention of the confederate flag as some symbol of one's heritage. I knew too many people who felt that way and still tried to glorify some history that was reprehensible.

Melon

(452 posts)
35. I really don't see it anymore.
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 12:32 AM
Wednesday

I live in Texas. It’s been years since I’ve seen a southern flag flown and then in a very rural setting. I used to see the flags in Georgia snd South Carolina. Kentucky as well. This was 15-25 years ago. But even in the south, they are viewed as offensive. And you would have to be a devoted racist to have one, because they aren’t sold. 20 years ago you’d see flags because they were still sold at Walmart. It was prior to today’s enlightenment.

I’ve also not heard the N word in 15 years either used by a white person down here. I speak to black colleagues down here about these things and it’s simply not a part of our lives. Our children are not exposed to it at all. The old view of the south is largely squarely in the past. The last racist rant I heard was 2 years ago in Philadelphia about Jews.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,469 posts)
46. The south denied black folks their rights
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 05:28 PM
Wednesday

I don’t see any northern states talking about woke or DEI. Denying American history because white children will feel bad. They also voted for the worst president in history.

Melon

(452 posts)
48. You sound like you also live in far South?
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 10:19 PM
Wednesday

I don’t see it. My young adult children were raised in 4 of the most redneck states you can find. They have never been exposed to racism anymore than a kid in Connecticut The same that exists up north exists down here. I moved to a notable old KKK town in Georgia. Used to have big rally’s and was a sundowner town in the day. Everyone made comments to me about it…and…I moved in, my neighbor was black. His neighbor was black. Nobody cares. Kentucky I lived next door to a lesbian couple. Nobody cared. Not everyone in the country supports or believes in DEI….not even among democrats. The most racist conversations and exposure I’ve seen has been in Europe. Not here. But it’s also not in the South where I’ve lived.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,469 posts)
49. South Georgia
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 10:36 PM
Wednesday

And New York also 5 other southern states. My cousins taught me which water fountain to use. There were places we were not allowed to go . There was the colored section where you could be semi free.
You might not know the subtle racism but it’s there . New York was no prize but segregation was not the law. Black folks have learned to survive by seeing the signs unfortunately our Hispanic brothers and sisters did not and they are paying an ungodly price. When southerners vote for a racist , they are all right with his racism. Many white people on this board are not speaking to relatives because they voted for a racist felon.

JT45242

(3,432 posts)
20. My southern heritage as a LOSER!!!
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:09 PM
Tuesday

We should have hanged every officer of colonel rank and higher in the Confederacy.

Hanged all of the cabinet, the VP, Jefferson Davis.

dlk

(12,701 posts)
21. The confederate flag, like the swastika, nazi flag is the flag of losers
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:10 PM
Tuesday

They lost, badly. They need to get over it and move on.

Cirsium

(2,671 posts)
24. Southern Heritage?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:45 PM
Tuesday

OK, let's honor Virginian David Farragut of "damn the torpedoes" fame, the US Naval officer who took New Orleans and Mobile during the Civil War. When he was approached to lead the Confederate navy he said "I'll see you roast in hellfire first!"

Or how about the "Rock of Chickamagua" George Thomas? He was from Virginia, and was a great military leader. He turned defeat into victory at Stone's River, saved the Union army at Chickamagua, led the charge up Missionary Ridge outside of Chattanooga, was the "hammer" in Sherman's advance on Atlanta, and utterly destroyed Hood's army at Nashville.

Then we have all of the white men from northern Alabama and Georgia, from western North Carolina and Virginia, from eastern Tennessee and Kentucky, who supported and fought for the Union in overwhelming numbers.

Most importantly, we have the 150,000 sons of the South who fought so courageously for the Union, despite not even being recognized as citizens of the country they fought for - former slaves.

That is the "southern heritage" that should be honored.

Tanuki

(15,919 posts)
42. Thank you for this. I grew up in the county in West Virginia
Wed Jun 25, 2025, 10:46 AM
Wednesday

where my mother's family had lived for many generations, predating the year (1863) when our region separated from the state of Virginia because it wanted to remain in the Union and not be part of the Confederacy.

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