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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHERE ARE THE DEMOCRATS WHO VOTED TO TABLE AL GREEN'S IMPEACHMENT RESOLUTION
TRUMP WILL USE THIS.
For your viewing pleasure.
We can't even get a symbolic show of unity.
"Al Green introduced articles of impeachment today. This vote technically wasnt for impeachment itself, but whether or not to vote on it at all. There are some surprising names on here which makes me think there may be some sort of strategy in tabling it for now, but regardless, here they are if you want to call your reps about it
These are the democrats who voted to table it
Alabama: Shomari Figures, Terri Sewell
Arizona: Greg Stanton
California: Pete Aguilar, Ami Bera, Julia Brownley, Salud Carbajal, J. Luis Correa, Jim Costa, Adam Gray, Josh Harder, Ro Khanna, Mike Levin, Sam Liccardo, Ted Lieu, Zoe Lofgren, Jimmy Panetta, Nancy Pelosi, Scott Peters, Derek Tran, Juan Vargas, George Whitesides
Colorado: Jason Crow, Joe Neguse, Brittany Petterson
Connecticut: Joe Courtney, Rosa DeLauro, James Himes, John Larson
Delaware: Sarah McBride
Florida: Kathy Castor, Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick, Lois Frankel, Jared Moskowitz, Darren Soto, Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Georgia: Sanford Bishop, Lucy McBath
Hawaii: Ed Case
Illinois: Nikki Budzinski, Sean Casten, Bill Foster, Mike Quigley, Bradley Scott Schneider, Eric Sorenson, Lauren Underwood
Indiana: Andre Carson, Frank Mrvan
Kansas: Sharice Davids
Kentucky: Morgan McGarvey
Louisiana: Cleo Fields
Maine: Jared Golden
Maryland: Sarah Elfreth, Steny Hoyer, April McClain Delaney, Kweisi Mfume, Johnny Olszewski, Jamie Raskin
Massachusetts: Jake Auchincloss, Katherine Clark, William Keating, Stephen Lynch, Seth Moulton, Richard Neal, Lori Trahan
Michigan: Debbie Dingell, Kristen McDonald Rivet, Hillary Scholten, Haley Stevens
Minnesota: Angie Craig, Betty McCollum, Kelly Morrison
Missouri: Wesley Bell, Emanuel Cleaver
Nevada: Steven Horsford, Susie Lee
New Hampshire: Maggie Goodlander, Chris Pappas
New Jersey: Herbert Conaway, Josh Gottheimer, Frank Pallone, Nellie Pou
New Mexico: Gabe Vasquez
New York: Laura Gillen, Daniel Goldman, Hakeem Jeffries, Timothy Kennedy, George Latimer, John Mannion, Gregory Meeks, Grace Meng, Joseph Morelle, Josh Riley, Patrick Ryan, Thomas Suozzi, Paul Tonko, Ritchie Torres
North Carolina: Donald Davis, Deborah Ross
Ohio: Marcy Kaptur, Greg Landsman, Emilia Sykes
Oregon: Janelle Bynum, Val Hoyle, Andrea Salinas
Pennsylvania: Madeleine Dean, Chris Deluzio, Chrissy Houlahan, Mary Gay Scanlon
Rhode Island: Gabe Amo, Seth Magaziner
South Carolina: James Clyburn
Texas: Henry Cuellar, Lizzie Fletcher, Vicente Gonzalez, Julie Johnson, Marc Veasey
Virginia: Donald Beyer, Jennifer McClellan, Robert Scott, Suhas Subramanyam, Eugene Vindman
Washington: Suzan DelBene, Rick Larsen, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, Kim Schrier, Adam Smith, Marilyn Strickland"
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Fiendish Thingy
(19,828 posts)Autumn
(48,099 posts)will be off the table.
maxsolomon
(36,804 posts)Dems will not control the Senate in 2027.
Autumn
(48,099 posts)and the House impeachment would be off the table.
kerry-is-my-prez
(10,043 posts)Autumn
(48,099 posts)travelingthrulife
(2,801 posts)mvd
(65,676 posts)Jeffries, Khanna, impeachment managers like Raskin and my representative Dean.. must be something to this.


mvd
(65,676 posts)TSF has been committing impeachable crimes since day one. If those names voted against impeachment due to not seeing the point, then we have even more serious problems.
orangecrush
(25,383 posts)stillcool
(34,370 posts)It's a game. Don't know what was involved in this particular legislation. Don't know if they see a better way? Don't know anything. But the finger pointers are so smart. Look, look over here!!! Spineless! Primary! Do they even elect Democrats?
House leadership opted to vote not on the articles themselves, but on a motion to table the Resolution, which further delays impeachment proceedings.
Tabling this means that no impeachment will happen right now.
angrychair
(10,800 posts)Voting to table the bill is not a good look. Even if it was symbolic vote for the bill anyway. All this does is make people mad.
stillcool
(34,370 posts)For them it might be about something else...like 'work'. I suppose there are people only interested in that, but there actually are people whose job it is to represent the people of their state. Not play a part but do a job. Don't know what that bill was comprised of, and if some may feel another time would be more beneficial, or something about the language? Who knows? Has zero to do with anything. My Representative voted to table it. I am completely okay with his decision-making process and will not be contacting him. Why is it people just don't go to the source for explanations? Spines and primaries are all theatrics too.
angrychair
(10,800 posts)To representatives offices trying to ask questions or get feedback and I've never heard a peep. It would be more effective for me to stand in the back yard and scream at the trees.
At this particular moment symbolism is all we have. We can do nothing else. People are tired of speeches and letters of concern. The push back at committee hearings are good as well.
While the vote may not do anything people need hope and they need to believe that Democrats in Washington are fighting this insanity through every possible avenue.
stillcool
(34,370 posts)for my entire life, except for a one-time seat-filler and have no business being on this site. I've been friendly with my state representatives and have lived in several districts. I actually switched parties to independent after the Iraq War vote but switched back before the next election because I volunteered for Barack Obama's campaign. There is so much that has led us to where we are, and it is not Democrats. It's human beings of which I am one. I'm sorry for my stupid need to defend, I need to ignore.
kerry-is-my-prez
(10,043 posts)Now is NOT the time to vote against ANY Dem who can win. We are in an emergency situation.
ImNotGod
(819 posts)the party needs to show a spine, commit to going against fascism any chance they get or hem and haw and put future voters to sleep.
W_HAMILTON
(9,238 posts)from RI on this list too. Yes, something to this, i agree.
customerserviceguy
(25,223 posts)primary them, and end up with a lot of those seats going to the Rethuglicans? Yes, we want him out of there, but apparently, now is not the time.
lostincalifornia
(3,721 posts)orangecrush
(25,383 posts)

lostincalifornia
(3,721 posts)angrychair
(10,800 posts)Even if symbolic at least Democrats are asserting themselves and taking a public stand.
To take a vote to table it just stirs up controversy like this
Rebl2
(16,603 posts)travelingthrulife
(2,801 posts)kerry-is-my-prez
(10,043 posts)lostincalifornia
(3,721 posts)it would never get to the Senate.
orangecrush
(25,383 posts)

Rebl2
(16,603 posts)I live in a red state that would endanger democratic seats.
orangecrush
(25,383 posts)If you aren't doing anything with them
Autumn
(48,099 posts)orangecrush
(25,383 posts)By ICE's hired thugs, this really pisses me off.
orangecrush
(25,383 posts)
travelingthrulife
(2,801 posts)orangecrush
(25,383 posts)Abnredleg
(1,115 posts)And Independents will see it as a stunt because it has no chance of passing. Dems have enough issues to attack him so lets focus on those instead of wasting political bandwidth.
Shellback Squid
(9,467 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(6,063 posts)They understand that the Democrats do not control the levers of power and that this would NEVER go anywhere with the GOP in charge.
I applaud them and support their efforts.
travelingthrulife
(2,801 posts)face of developing fascism.
When people complain about Democrats being worthless and doing nothing, I will remember this.
Kaleva
(39,595 posts)Like everyone else here
Oopsie Daisy
(6,063 posts)Last edited Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:14 PM - Edit history (1)
>> When people complain about Democrats being worthless and doing nothing, I will remember this.What you should remember is that the Democrats are not in charge and the Democrats do not have the majority. These theatrical votes and handwringing are ALWAYS going to fail. Failure after failure makes us look weak. Let's focus on what's POSSIBLE rather than chasing this fantasy.
True leadership transcends those types of theatrics. Authentic leadership is demonstrated through composure, reason, and a steadfast commitment to progress. The substance of one's actions speaks volumes louder than any theatrical displays. Let's raise the bar and focus on what truly moves us forward. I'm glad to see that more Democrats agree with me on this.
ananda
(32,431 posts)All I'm seeing is chaos, harm, and insanity.
orangecrush
(25,383 posts)no_hypocrisy
(52,075 posts)Nellie Pou surprises me. She took
Bill Pascrells seat and I know the district would have supported her.
travelingthrulife
(2,801 posts)Mountainguy
(2,117 posts)Feels?
Clouds Passing
(5,314 posts)Rob H.
(5,681 posts)Paladin
(30,882 posts)Last edited Tue Jun 24, 2025, 06:25 PM - Edit history (1)
trump and his constant fuckups and his brain-dead cabinet selections are basically giving the country back to us---but only if we have the courage and intelligence to seize the moment. What a profound disappointment these Democrats are.
Al Green: keep on doing what you're doing. Over and over.
orangecrush
(25,383 posts)There is no excuse for this.
spanone
(139,503 posts)orangecrush
(25,383 posts)Oppaloopa
(903 posts)I can't believe it nancypelosi. Debbie Wasserman what were they thinking ? We are always to nice
rubbersole
(10,013 posts)..there is a good reason to vote the way they did. We'll find out soon. Personally, I think Raskin is the man when it comes to resistance to the gop treason.
orangecrush
(25,383 posts)rubbersole
(10,013 posts)Hoping one of the reps gets to explain this soon. I thought it would be on Chris Hayes and it wasn't. The fact so many Dems voted against it knowing how angry their constitutes are at the repubs...well, here's the blowback they had to know was coming.
electric_blue68
(22,106 posts)And not necessarily the "self serving, or cowardness" one.
Yes, it is somewhat disappointing to me, but I will wait, and see.
And I do believe in symbolism as well.
Jose Garcia
(3,236 posts)DinahMoeHum
(23,046 posts). . .who will vote to CONVICT Trump if there is another impeachment.
Go ahead. I'll wait.
orangecrush
(25,383 posts)Are you telling me they're scared of losing votes because voters will think they will impeach and remove if we get the majority back in Congress?
I've heard that lame excuse already.
If the shoe were on the other foot, you could be damn sure the Republicans would have voted unanimously to impeach.
A show of solidarity might have had an effect
The effect this has is enabling and emboldening him.
DinahMoeHum
(23,046 posts). . .and don't waste any more time or bandwidth on it. Please.
Impeachment don't mean shit if there's no conviction and removal by the US Senate.
There are bigger fish to fry right now (such as killing the Big Bullshit Bill)
orangecrush
(25,383 posts)DinahMoeHum
(23,046 posts)n/t
orangecrush
(25,383 posts)in the face of a despot is not an exercise in futility, no matter what the "Senate" does.
Just my take
It doesn't matter what a senator thinks to me.
What matters is showing me that when we are on the streets marching, Democrats have our backs.
That is NOT what this showed me, and I believe the majority of Democrats feel the same way.
electric_blue68
(22,106 posts)Rep Jamie Raskin, previous impeachment manager, and Constitutional Scholar voted to table it at this moment. I trust his judgement.
I dream of drumphf being "dragged kicking, and screaming" out of The WH, or "Mother Nature" finally taking her course. So don't get me wrong.
iemanja
(56,189 posts)and it's an empty exercise since they don't even have the votes.
Bread and Circuses
(861 posts)NOTE- This is not bashing
Hopes that after the bombing there would be more esprit de corps with the people and our peaceful visibity events. I no longer have words. I understand that there is zero chance. Perhaps, theres another strategy, as you suggest? I continue to support the Dems. I know this is chaos for them, hope they know that were still here, waiting and weary.
Greg_In_SF
(272 posts)following Obama's bombing of Libya.
There is NO advance warning that needs to be given to Congress.
The Commander In Chief is to notify Congress within 48 hours AFTER an attack.
There is no impeachable offense here and those who voted against it did the right thing.
orangecrush
(25,383 posts)For MAGATs.
Samael13
(36 posts)Let's be honest tho it would go nowhere and just play into the MAGA martyr syndrome around trump. Better to not give them ammo and actually focus on ways to get congress back and solutions to stop him until democrats get back into the majority.
Ping Tung
(2,889 posts)Her (R) predecessor was more likely to vote against him.
Ilikepurple
(247 posts)I agree that there was no way impeachment was going to happen even if not table, but what I dont understand is why that result is necessary for success. I believe that messaging and counter propaganda is the only real weapons the democrats have for the time being. This may have provided an opportunity to get more media coverage of this administrations missteps. Trump has been shown to cave under pressure from special interests and from public pressure. Why not apply some? This result just gives the media a chance to spin this as most democrats dont believe Trump has done anything impeachable.
Why are many the law and order types here all of a sudden dropping strict adherence to the constitution, laws, and rules in favor of more pragmatic concerns? If Trump has done anything impeachable, it is our lawmakers attempt to have hearings about this matter.
If you are a pragmatist and believe the democrats dont control any of the levers of power, why are you so concerned with their time wasted? Are you expecting bipartisan cooperation? Wasted Democratic Party time also equals wasted Republican Party time. Also, Im guessing putting some pressure on the weaker members of the Republican House would not be an altogether bad thing? The endgame does not have to be impeachment itself.
Also, I believe we should carefully consider what the Democratic Party leadership has strategized, but I also believe this ceases to be a forum if we acquiesce to their every decision in some misguided appeal to their authority.
Liberal In Texas
(15,363 posts)I gave her what for on her Bluesky page.