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CatWoman

(80,033 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 02:52 PM Yesterday

Just what is NATO Sec General Mark Rutte up to?

NATO chief praises Trump for making Europe ‘pay in a BIG way’ on defense ahead of historic summit

THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte praised President Donald Trump for making Europe “pay in a BIG way,” as allied leaders gathered in the Netherlands on Tuesday for a historic summit that could unite them around a new defense spending pledge or widen divisions among the 32 member countries.

The U.S. president, while flying aboard Air Force One en route to The Hague, published a screenshot of a private message from Rutte saying: “Donald, you have driven us to a really, really important moment for America and Europe and the world. You will achieve something NO American president in decades could get done.”

“Europe is going to pay in a BIG way, as they should, and it will be your win,” Rutte wrote. NATO confirmed that he sent the message.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/nato-chief-praises-trump-for-making-europe-pay-in-a-big-way-on-defense-ahead-of-historic-summit

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Just what is NATO Sec General Mark Rutte up to? (Original Post) CatWoman Yesterday OP
I hope that NATO sees Rutte for what he is Shellback Squid Yesterday #1
I think Rutte sees Trump for what he is, Ocelot II Yesterday #4
Netanyahu kissed trumps ass BOSSHOG Yesterday #5
He's doing what diplomats everywhere are having to do - flattering Trump Ocelot II Yesterday #2
notice how Rutte seems to be mocking Trump CatWoman Yesterday #6
Krasnov (R-Felon) hates being called "Donald" BoRaGard Yesterday #7
Any way of checking his bank accounts? Justice matters. Yesterday #3
Two things happening here, neither is good news for tRump Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #8
and the big idiot posted the message on social media CatWoman Yesterday #10
What he is actually saying is that... S/V Loner Yesterday #9
Exactly, maybe Europe is waking up to a potentially new Third Reich threat on the horizon n/t Cheezoholic Yesterday #14
That's the first thing I thought... karin_sj Yesterday #15
Playing for time BeyondGeography Yesterday #11
sickening how everyone knows Trump eats up bullshit praise Skittles Yesterday #12
Sounds like NATO is enjoying the autonomy and power bucolic_frolic Yesterday #13
The way I read it... sheshe2 Yesterday #16

Ocelot II

(125,524 posts)
4. I think Rutte sees Trump for what he is,
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 02:56 PM
Yesterday

and is keeping the flattery coming thick and fast to keep him from withdrawing the US from NATO.

Ocelot II

(125,524 posts)
2. He's doing what diplomats everywhere are having to do - flattering Trump
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 02:54 PM
Yesterday

in fulsome terms in order to keep him from doing any more damage.

CatWoman

(80,033 posts)
6. notice how Rutte seems to be mocking Trump
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 03:01 PM
Yesterday

by using his verbal style with key phrases and all caps? :

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,617 posts)
8. Two things happening here, neither is good news for tRump
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 03:03 PM
Yesterday

1) Rutte's flattery is par for the course these days but, like the other flatterers, is insincere. tRump hears the flattery and stops thinking and starts basking in the glow. Everyone else knows it is an act, like Starmer's and even Bibi's acts

2) tRump will think the increase in defense spending is a straight up win and stop thinking. It actually is the first step of NATO divorcing itself from tRump, which means divorcing from the US. What it means is the US going it alone, with greatly reduced influence. Europe will buy even less of US defense industry, as Canada is going to do (considering dropping F-35 for example).

S/V Loner

(9,364 posts)
9. What he is actually saying is that...
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 03:04 PM
Yesterday

he is thanking him for waking Europe up and realizing they cannot trust the U.S. to protect them. In a roundabout way.

Cheezoholic

(3,024 posts)
14. Exactly, maybe Europe is waking up to a potentially new Third Reich threat on the horizon n/t
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 03:26 PM
Yesterday

karin_sj

(1,219 posts)
15. That's the first thing I thought...
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 03:28 PM
Yesterday

The orange idiot has gotten Europe, Canada, etc., to realize that they have to band together to protect their countries and their interests because they absolutely can't count on the U.S. for anything anymore except chaos and turmoil.

sheshe2

(92,571 posts)
16. The way I read it...
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 03:57 PM
Yesterday

He Is saying TSF has UNITED all of Europe against the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and he alone did that.

They will all be watching each others backs and that of their allies not yet part of NATO, ie Ukraine. He alone did that.

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