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applegrove

(126,401 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:46 PM Yesterday

Gotta love the Parliamentarian:

Senate Parliamentarian appreciation day! She BLOCKED GOP plans to sell off public lands, gut environmental protections, & force oil drilling—these provisions now need 60 votes to pass & 4 Republicans said they’re voting no.

This is momentum.
Keep calling.
Keep fighting. 🌲💪

Jennifer ✨Get In Good Trouble (@thejenniwren.teamlh.social) 2025-06-24T15:37:37.834Z
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Fiendish Thingy

(19,697 posts)
1. I don't think public pressure had anything to do with the parliamentarian's ruling
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:51 PM
Yesterday

Her job is to provide nonpartisan rulings on wether legislation complies with senate rules.

newdeal2

(3,047 posts)
4. No but it may help in getting some R's to vote against those provisions
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:59 PM
Yesterday

They won’t come close to 60 votes then.

DENVERPOPS

(12,747 posts)
11. Very recently
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 02:08 PM
Yesterday

there were 18-20 Dems who voted for one of their Nefarious Bills........including one of Colorado's Senators.....Hickenlooper..........

We have three Colorado Politicians who are questionable in all things......Senators Hickenlooper, Bennett, and Gov Polis........
And one, Bennett, who is spending most of his time, not dealing with the Nation's problems, but campaigning to become Colorado's Governor......Heaven help us.....

GusBob

(7,914 posts)
15. My Social Media groups are blowed up with outdoorsman lobbying their reps
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 03:31 PM
Yesterday

So not her but the reps are getting an earful

Hikers, campers, outdoor lovers of all types,

including hunters who are the most vocal and tend to be GOP

maxsolomon

(36,747 posts)
2. I was hoping this would be the case.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:51 PM
Yesterday

Citizen pressure campaigns didn't call the Parliamentarian, though.

Repuke Senators should have known better than to try this. Not Reconciliationable.

maxsolomon

(36,747 posts)
6. Probably.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 01:03 PM
Yesterday

There are strict rules about what can go in Reconciliation Bills and bypass cloture.

leftstreet

(36,796 posts)
8. But it's just an advisor role
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 01:16 PM
Yesterday

from wiki

While the parliamentarian provides advice, the presiding officer or the Senate itself ultimately makes the final decision on procedural matters


sounds like a scapegoat

GB_RN

(3,388 posts)
14. True.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 03:19 PM
Yesterday

Her rulings about what is/are/not within the rules is an advisory, but the Senate usually follows her rulings. Only been a few times that she’s been overruled. Killing the filibuster for judges (both when Reid did it and then later, McConnell) are two prime examples.

Brother Buzz

(38,736 posts)
7. Elizabeth MacDonough is a straight shooter and the marmalade shartcannon is steamed he can't fire her directly
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 01:06 PM
Yesterday

She's been taking a legal scalpel the Big Beautiful Bill, left and right.

Word is, the marmalade shartcannon is applying pressure to pub senators to can her.

AverageOldGuy

(2,669 posts)
10. How about we organize some other groups?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 02:05 PM
Yesterday

National forests are interesting places. I won't go into details, but, in many areas national forests are used for recreation -- hiking, camping, 4-wheeling, fishing, and hunting. There is lumbering in some national forests with timber companies cutting trees.

I hunt, though not as much as I did years ago. My Mississippi Delta redneck cousin hunts and fishes for anything that moves. I would visit him each fall. We would hunt quail and pheasant on Delta farmland; hunt deer and wild hogs in the land along the Mississippi River.

Then every third year we would hunt national forests in E TN or W NC -- Joyce Kilmer, Pisgah, and Cherokee -- for deer and wild hogs.

If the national forests are sold you can bet that logging, mining, and "housing development" (rural McMansions that only Musk can afford) will take over, then the camping, hiking, fishing, and hunting is done for.

We need to shout this fact from the rooftops. Get this matter before local hiking, camping, hunting, etc., groups. Get the NRA involved -- believe it or not, hunters are conservationists where forest land is concerned.

liberalla

(10,565 posts)
13. Thank you thank you thank you!!!
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 03:17 PM
Yesterday

I'm so happy to read this! This really was upsetting me (the less spicy version of what I wanted to say)... what a relief!
Yay!

littlemissmartypants

(28,279 posts)
17. The Byrd Rule
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 03:34 PM
Yesterday
https://www.aol.co.uk/senate-byrd-rule-upends-trump-163626929.html

What is the Byrd Rule?

The Byrd Rule, adopted in 1985, is a procedural constraint named after the late Senator Robert C. Byrd of West Virginia to prohibit “extraneous” provisions from being tacked onto reconciliation bills, which are fast-tracked budget packages that allow legislation to pass with a simple majority, bypassing the 60-vote filibuster threshold.

The rule makes it so that every line of a reconciliation package must have a direct and substantive impact on federal spending or revenues. Provisions that serve primarily policy goals—rather than budgetary ones—are subject to elimination by a parliamentary maneuver known as a point of order. Whether a point of order is sustained is ultimately made by the parliamentarian, who is essentially the Senate’s umpire tasked with providing nonpartisan advice and ensuring that lawmakers are complying with the Senate’s rules.

Parliamentarians often face backlash during the budget reconciliation process, when they determine whether policy proposals comply with the constraints of the Byrd Rule.

Cha

(312,331 posts)
18. Wow.. she's at it again! First she Blocks
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 03:48 PM
Yesterday

Fascists from Doing away with Judicial Oversight.. and Now.. Wow!

Thank Goodness For Elizabeth MacDonough! 💙

Mahalo, Apple!

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