how did this idiot get elected President twice?

[Demovictory9]

[NJCher]

1. How?

Defects in the system, both electoral and human.

[SSJVegeta]

2. By not allowing democratic populists to be nominated

...we allow authoritarian populists to win instead.

[betsuni]

3. Voters choose nominees. Democratic voters are not "allowing" populists to be nominated?

[betsuni]

6. Ah, the rigging superdelegates conspiracies, beholden-money-status-quo-corruption conspiracy theory.

Conspiracy theories. "Even Trump was chosen more democratically than any Democratic nominee."

This is a forum for supporters of the Democratic Party.

[SSJVegeta]

7. Superdelegates dont exist?

Thats news to me

[betsuni]

10. Well, now you know. Rigging superdelegates don't exist, superdelegates rigging elections doesn't exist.

Conspiracy theory.

[SSJVegeta]

11. Superdelegates existing is by definition rigging an election

That is, if superdelegates actually exist. Which im relieved they do not! Conspiracy theories are terrible!!!

[betsuni]

12. How do they rig elections?

[SSJVegeta]

13. By their one vote being worth a thousand votes

(Or 8,000?)
But again im relieved they dont exist!! Thank you!!!

[betsuni]

19. When have they changed the outcome of a race?

[SSJVegeta]

20. When their 1 vote cancels out 8,000 votes

So my guess is probably quite often.

[betsuni]

21. So superdelegates rigging elections doesn't exist.

[SSJVegeta]

22. Thank goodness!

What a relief to know that the media is lying!!

Using turnout data from the 2016 election, the Super Delegates actually have the voting power of about 8,000 voters. This still demonstrates the significant power of these delegates.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/verify-are-super-delegates-really-ten-thousand-times-more-powerful-than-the-average-voter/65-9097f0e1-a6a5-4201-bdec-90bf32f8f2b1

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. Don't you know it!!

[Shrek]

17. The 2024 candidate was not chosen by primary, so you must be referring to 2016

The super delegates awarded the nomination to Hillary Clinton by denying which Democratic populist?

[SSJVegeta]

18. Small D

[brush]

55. FTI: rethugs cheat, supress and purge Dem vites. And this time Musk money also pad for/bribed/bought the election.

Lets don't kid ourselves. There's no legitimate way trump won every swing state.

[mcar]

60. Huh?

[EYESORE 9001]

5. Societal sickness

Rump is a living metaphor of this sickness.

[claudette]

8. Millions of idiots voted for him

God help us

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. I don't think I'll EVER get over it... how is that possible?!

[claudette]

39. Me neither

I would never have thought so many idiots would make the same mistake twice

[mcar]

61. Mass amnesia

It's like people just forgot about the horrors of his first term and fixated on gas prices.

Also, racism and sexism.

[Aristus]

53. I knew I was living in a world populated by blithering idiots from the very first time I sat down in First Grade reading

circle. Even at that young age, I was aghast at the number of kids for whom thinking, reading, processing sensory input, etc, was an ungodly chore, and sheer drudgery. I couldn't comprehend someone who didn't take joy in reading, learning, discovering, and so on.

[ITAL]

57. I mean

I was in the remedial reading group in first and second grades. It was a real struggle for me. By third grade I was in the top level reading group. Something clicked for me the summer between second and third.

Sometimes kids who are blithering idiots get better.

[uponit7771]

9. M$M normalized him, played neutral when they should not have

[imanamerican63]

14. By other idiots that were complacent one lied too!

[thought crime]

15. This guy is the Rodney Dangerfield of Diplomacy.

In 2011, Trump said "Our president will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate. He's weak and he's ineffective”. Trump later ended Obama’s verifiable agreement that was totally working. Then he went to war with Iran after his own negotiations failed, and not long after his negotiations with Ukraine and Russia failed.

Now, it's obvious: he want to play golf this weekend.

[Behind the Aegis]

16. Bigotry

[3auld6phart]

56. Yes

Bigots these are the same round headsKing Charles 2 kicked out of England… Disatified , no matter who isi charge. They will never be happy with their lot. They love their ignorance.

[Captain Zero]

23. Everybody Now! 4 verses of Kum-Bah-Yah!

As he works furiously on his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech.

This guy is fucking delusional.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. To the EXTREME!!

[Scrivener7]

24. They had tears in their eyes, right? Don't forget the tears in their

eyes. Magats eat that shit up.

[Chemical Bill]

25. Cheating.

[Raine]

26. Angry voters ... nt

[woodsprite]

27. Because there were enough hateful people in our country

That they easily manipulated.

[Botany]

28. Cheating end of story

Musk turned on 265 low earth orbit satellites on 10/30/24 that allowed direct to cell
communications via Starlink that gave access directly to the ES&S and Dominion’s
tabulators and servers.

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the?fbclid=IwY2xjawK-Q-RleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHl8PQYh9WG-6uuPXYQO5BzrEiJv9VweTkJc6a-VHicPxurAtcP4Q059t4Gjo_aem_HoFB_uGcaEjb3ciZ62ggmA

She Won. They Didn't Just Change the Machines. They Rewired the Election.

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-part-ii-seven-judges-direct

She Won, Part II: Seven Judges. Direct-to-Cell Satellites. A Hijacked Election.

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-part-iii-the-devil-is-in

She Won, Part III: The Devil Is In The Data

The odds that Trump won without “help” are
1 in 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

[The Revolution]

54. Ok, but why did the election broadly agree

with pre-election polling (including Democratic internal polling) indicating the election would be very close (which it was)?

As well as to post-election polling showing Democratic party priorities not aligning with voter priorities?

Also polling and analysis by groups like Catalist, which showed problems with turnout compared to 2020?

All of that is rigged too?

[Botany]

62. Did you read the articles?

I don’t have every answer but 3 things I know for certain:

1) that election was dirty

b) Trump knew and acted like the fix was in.

iii) The election data was most certainly messed with.

[The Revolution]

63. Yes

I didn’t see an answer to my question about why multiple independent data points are largely in line with the election results.

And I don't see anything else in the articles that is particularly convincing. Other than the usual Republican dirty tricks they use to supress Democratic turnout, I see no evidence of a grand conspiracy to alter the results by messing with a variety of voting machines across multiple states. We see these people in action publicly. They can't seem to do anything right, but somehow they pull off the crime of the century?

[Botany]

65. You obviously didn't read the articles. Although Trump and company got into the guts of the voting ...

….. machines when contesting the 2020 election but the central tabulators and operating systems
of ES&S and Dominion were compromised via the firmware patches installed by Eaton which
allowed manipulation and or surveillance of the data.

[The Revolution]

66. You obviously didn't read my question

For argument's sake, let's just take it as a given that they tampered with the voting machines and manipulated the results.

How did they also tamper with polls at the time showing the race would be close, or a slight edge to Trump just at the end?

How did they tamper with internal Democratic polling?

What about polling afterwards showing Democratic priorities don't align with voter priorities? (Except on healthcare)

What about the post election analysis done by Catalist that shows Harris performing worse with many groupscompared to Biden in 2020?

Why do these data points line up with the result?

[Polybius]

64. So you know this for certain...

Yet Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, and the DNC don't know this?

[bif]

29. Because dumbfuckery runs rampant in this country

Plain and simple.

[Jilly_in_VA]

30. It was the machinery behind him

They didn't care who the candidate was. They just wanted the Democrats out so they could get their hateful agenda in. Remember the link about Palantir? That's who did it. That's who engineered this whole godawful mess, so the architects of Project 2025 could get their agenda in.

[Emile]

33. He cheated.

[GoCubsGo]

35. This is the United States of Amnesia.

Compounded by the fact that the forgetful are also misogynists and bigots of all stripes, who have been horribly propagandized for decades. All that brought to you by a grossly corrupt Supreme Court, who insists that money is speech, so he who has the most money gets the biggest voice. Probably cheating and foreign hanky-panky involved, as well,

[JHB]

36. Decades of RW media setting the narrative, years of MSM normalizing him

Lack of any real media infrastructure broadcasting a counter-narrative.

[yorkster]

37. And a nice dose of racism amd misogyny.

[Jit423]

38. He got elected twice from first Putin playing him and his appeal to the misogynist of the US.

Second time he was elected by Musk's money and technology and the racism of the US.

[Botany]

42. In 2016 Putin's Alfa bank reached out to the Trump's campaign server 2,500 times in the little town of Lititiz,

…. PA and another 300 times to Betsy DeVos and her brother Erik Prince (Blackwater) to
a computer in Western Michigan.


https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/15/was-there-a-connection-between-a-russian-bank-and-the-trump-campaign

[tanyev]

40. I'm wondering if someone slipped him some happy pills last night.

[EnergizedLib]

41. 'You violated the ceasefire I made up in my head'

On January 20, 2029, arrest this subhuman and everybody working for this White House.

[Mysterian]

43. Lead in the water or some kind of "stupid poison" from the Russians

is the only explanation I can think of.

[Paladin]

44. Tens of millions of brain-dead, hateful trump whores.

Thanks for absolutely NOTHING, trump voters.

[Bluestocking]

45. I ask myself that question everyday

Baffles the mind

[spanone]

46. NOW: 'They don't know what the fuck they're doing'

[kacekwl]

47. That question will be studied until the end of time.

I'm pretty sure they will find it has something to do with RACISM. With quite a bit of stupid.

[travelingthrulife]

48. Stubborn Republicans believing propaganda.

They live in an alternate reality. My MAGA sister is fine with the 22 year old heading our security efforts because the DOGE teens did such an awesome job. Completely unaware of the DOGE fiasco that her kids will be paying for.

[Dlpger61]

49. Just Admit It

Ignorant white racist Americans!!!!!!!!

[The Revolution]

51. Except

Except Trump made and continues to make gains among non-whites. He's not being propped up soley by racist white people, though racists are certainly part of his coalition.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/elections/donald-trump-gets-double-digit-poll-boost-from-4-voter-groups/ar-AA1GYlUF?ocid=BingNewsSerp

The latest Pew Research poll, conducted between June 2-8, shows that Trump's approval rating has grown since April among older Hispanics and Black voters, Asian women and moderate Republicans.

Donald Trump made considerable gains with Black, Hispanic and Asian voters in the 2024 election, increasing his share of the vote in all but two states in 2024.

These gains among key voting blocs traditionally aligned with Democrats could reshape the balance of power in Congress and embolden Trump to pursue more aggressive policies with broader public backing.

[doc03]

50. Where did he get all those big words and how did he spell them correctly?

[usonian]

52. Racism, Xenophobia, misogyny, homophobia, decades of brainwashing. All the finer things in life.

[Littlered]

58. The fact that this question has to asked.

Tells me our party is in deep denial. People keep trying to tell us why we lost (and will continue to do so). But we collectively put our fingers in our ears, and while jumping up and down, we are shouting nuh uh… In other words, as long as our party continues to double down on the wrong side of almost every public opinion issue. We will continue to find ourselves here.

[Hotler]

59. 80 million people voted with their hate for Dems & Libs. The orange one is a reflection of his voters. nt

[Torchlight]

67. A successful payoff from a 30-year campaign to defund and delegitimize education

We now value what's familiar, popular, and easily digestible over what's rational, effective, and meaningful—interrupted, of course, by hourly commercial breaks. Opinions are carefully weighted and packaged and delivered on polished cable news platforms, making viewers more emotionally attached to the newscaster than the news itself (very few days go by that we can avoid the juicy gossip or exceptional behaviors of these B-level celebrities we once called news hosts).

The idiots who tell me "that was never taught in my school!" are the same idiots who ditched class the day that was taught.