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vanessa_ca

(270 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:07 PM Jun 23

"Iran has not agreed to a ceasefire. Trump is lying again" (Headline from Tehran Times)

Iran has not agreed to a ceasefire. Trump is lying again

June 24, 2025 - 2:24

TEHRAN - The Tehran Times understands that Donald Trump's claim of an incoming ceasefire between Iran and Israel is another one of the American president's lies aimed at pressuring the country.

Trump took to social media in the early hours of Tuesday to announce that the two sides had "fully agreed" to a ceasefire, effective in approximately 12 hours.

The president appears to be making up a new lie to force the Iranian government into accepting a ceasefire, believing that the move could pit the Iranian people against the officials and create domestic dissent.

Trump previously lied about needing "two weeks" to decide whether he would attack Iran's nuclear sites. He also engaged Iran in indirect talks for five rounds while he had already decided that he would have Israel attack the country's nuclear, military, and civilian infrastructure.

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/514877/Iran-has-not-agreed-to-a-ceasefire-Trump-is-lying-again

The Tehran Times is an English-language daily newspaper published in Iran, founded in 1979 as the self-styled "voice of the Islamic Revolution". While not state-owned, it is considered state-controlled and closely tied to the hardline factions within the Iranian government.


Headline from Mehr News

Liar Trump speaks of ceasefire between Iran, Israeli regime
TEHRAN, Jun. 24 (MNA) – US President Donald Trump has claimed that Iran and the Israeli regime has agreed on a ceasefire.

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/233586/Liar-Trump-speaks-of-ceasefire-between-Iran-Israeli-regime


The Mehr News Agency is a semi-official news agency sponsored by the government of Iran. It is headquartered in Tehran, and is owned by the Iranian government's Islamic Development Organization.
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"Iran has not agreed to a ceasefire. Trump is lying again" (Headline from Tehran Times) (Original Post) vanessa_ca Jun 23 OP
Trump always lies his ass off uponit7771 Jun 23 #1
I fear we are being rope-a-doped into further military action bucolic_frolic Jun 23 #2
Trying to set it up that Iran broke the imaginary ceasefire -eom vanessa_ca Jun 23 #5
Iran met with the Russian big wigs today CatWoman Jun 23 #31
Of course! AloeVera Jun 23 #37
We are definitely being manipulated... slightlv Jun 23 #36
makes shit up so he can be king for the minute..... pbmus Jun 23 #3
He is stark raving mad malaise Jun 23 #7
NOSHIIT pbmus Jun 23 #8
Starts a war. Claims war is over. Asks for peace prize. All within a couple hours. WHIPLASH! vanessa_ca Jun 23 #34
He is worse that GW Bush and his... FarPoint Jun 23 #4
I'm sorry why are we taking the Iran government newspaper at face value DemocracyWorks Jun 23 #6
Why are we taking Trump's pronouncements at face value? Ocelot II Jun 23 #9
That's simple enough - the boy who cried wolf was eventually telling the truth FBaggins Jun 23 #10
How many tens of thousands of lies has trump told? EnergizedLib Jun 23 #11
When Ahmadinejad was President of Iran, at the time some here Dreamer Tatum Jun 23 #14
Gotta say, though, I believe the two Iranian news sources over Taco. He has NEVER told the truth. Scrivener7 Jun 23 #16
You have the option of not believing anything, as opposed to Dreamer Tatum Jun 23 #17
I've been watching Taco since the 80s when he bankrupted my dad's friend for fun. Scrivener7 Jun 23 #18
Not seeing where I said believe him. Dreamer Tatum Jun 23 #19
And again, there either is or there isn't a cease fire. If I'm not believing Taco (which I won't without Scrivener7 Jun 23 #20
Post removed Post removed Jun 23 #21
Is that obtuse interpretation really what you got from this conversation? Or is it that you just can't back down Scrivener7 Jun 23 #22
I didn't err in the least. You have a need to believe one of the sides, Dreamer Tatum Jun 23 #24
Have a lovely evening. Scrivener7 Jun 23 #25
Impossible. I'm in mourning our pulverized base in Qatar. Dreamer Tatum Jun 23 #28
Well, then don't. Scrivener7 Jun 23 #29
So you believe Taco? Based on what? All his past truthiness? Scrivener7 Jun 23 #15
Why are you taking trump at face value rpannier Jun 23 #26
Because they speak (more or less)... reACTIONary Jun 23 #48
This is dangerous, as Trump throws hissy fits when he's called out or contradicted. He will react from Doodley Jun 23 #12
They know how to troll the sick convicted felon Justice matters. Jun 23 #35
Update from Times of Israel: "Senior Iranian official confirms Tehran agreeing to ceasefire" vanessa_ca Jun 23 #13
The convicted felon lies a lot and often. republianmushroom Jun 23 #23
Imagine that! spanone Jun 23 #27
He wasn't Polybius Jun 23 #38
Iranian FM: "As of now, there is NO "agreement" on any ceasefire or cessation of military operations. " vanessa_ca Jun 23 #42
CNN just reported that they have no confirmation 8:34pm cst spanone Jun 23 #46
he waved that shriveled up dick of his one too many times CatWoman Jun 23 #30
This is the problem with having a president who lies about everything. GoodRaisin Jun 23 #32
Trump is full of so much shit CatWoman Jun 23 #40
Kabuki theater! -eom vanessa_ca Jun 23 #49
We hate him too SuzyandPuffpuff Jun 23 #33
Shock of shocks. Karasu Jun 23 #39
And of course blue-wave Jun 23 #41
Drumpf: "War is over / if I want it..." regnaD kciN Jun 23 #43
Where Trump is concerned Grim Chieftain Jun 23 #44
Of course. H2O Man Jun 23 #45
You called it!! uponit7771 Jun 23 #47
How the fuck do you lie like THAT about THIS??? PCIntern Jun 23 #50
I dunno. Tripping over reality in a rush for that Nobel Peace Prize he wants? vanessa_ca Jun 23 #51

bucolic_frolic

(51,132 posts)
2. I fear we are being rope-a-doped into further military action
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:15 PM
Jun 23

IF any subsequent encounters, will there be deeper consequences? Sat's operation seems too easy.

slightlv

(5,949 posts)
36. We are definitely being manipulated...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:58 PM
Jun 23

but just like GW, who might at least have a chance at fooling all the people, trump has lied his ass off so many times that no one but the hard core magas believe anything he says. And, already, with this just a few days old, his lies are being brought out in headlines regarding Israel and Iran. But... the further he draws in Iran, the closer we get to WWIII thanks to the alignments with China and Russia.

When I was a kid and deeply into going to church at the time, I told my grandmother (who was a traveling preacher) that I wasn't worried about the Apocalypse unless China and Russia closed ranks and became allies in a war. THEN we're in trouble. I based my opinion on something I read in Revelation... don't remember now what it was. I just remember grandma didn't diss me for my opinion... at that time, it meant a lot to me.

trump has now set the country up in a unique and unenviable position of being alone in the world of geopolitics. Our only "Friends" are countries who have hated our guts for generations. And he really thinks we can trust what they say? I honestly don't think he does. He's maneuvering pieces on a chessboard towards a war that will take out some countries completely, and leave others in the stone age (including us). For crypto dollars? To be kind of a ruined planet? I dunno... whatever it is, he's evil. What I don't understand is why he's not been stopped. Usually by the time this kind of catastrophe is obvious someone kills the bad guy or takes out the evil regime. Stephen Miller must be so proud.

vanessa_ca

(270 posts)
34. Starts a war. Claims war is over. Asks for peace prize. All within a couple hours. WHIPLASH!
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:54 PM
Jun 23

FarPoint

(14,062 posts)
4. He is worse that GW Bush and his...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:16 PM
Jun 23

" Mission Accomplished" event....war laster several more years....

DemocracyWorks

(90 posts)
6. I'm sorry why are we taking the Iran government newspaper at face value
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:18 PM
Jun 23

We need to stop spiraling this out of control, Iran has no choice but to accept a ceasefire they are getting obliterated and I doubt they had much leverage to begin with.

FBaggins

(28,205 posts)
10. That's simple enough - the boy who cried wolf was eventually telling the truth
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:30 PM
Jun 23

The fact that nobody had a reason to believe him didn't change the truth - but it explained why they asssumed he was lying.

In this case - the problem is that too few realize that Iran has been just as dishonest for going on five decades now.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,985 posts)
14. When Ahmadinejad was President of Iran, at the time some here
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:39 PM
Jun 23

expressed a preference for his leadership over GWB's.

(go look for yourself if you don't believe me)

Forget it, Jake: it's DU.

Scrivener7

(56,199 posts)
16. Gotta say, though, I believe the two Iranian news sources over Taco. He has NEVER told the truth.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:46 PM
Jun 23

Dreamer Tatum

(10,985 posts)
17. You have the option of not believing anything, as opposed to
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:04 PM
Jun 23

hanging on the words of a homophobic, misogynistic state supporter of terrorism.

Scrivener7

(56,199 posts)
18. I've been watching Taco since the 80s when he bankrupted my dad's friend for fun.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:07 PM
Jun 23

If he says something, I assume its a lie. I have been correct about 90% of the time.

This ceasefire either is or it isn't. If Taco says it is, it probably isn't.

But thanks so much for splaining my options to me.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,985 posts)
19. Not seeing where I said believe him.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:10 PM
Jun 23

I definitely reminded you that you don't have to believe Iran, which is at least as full of shit (they said they "pulverized" the base in Qatar today...where are you on that one?) as Trump.

Scrivener7

(56,199 posts)
20. And again, there either is or there isn't a cease fire. If I'm not believing Taco (which I won't without
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:17 PM
Jun 23

a lot of corroboration) then I'm believing what the Iranian paper says. Because they are saying opposite things. And if one is wrong the other is right. It has nothing to do with supporting anything Iran does or did.

Do you get it now? Or will you need to explain to me about Iran again?

Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #20)

Scrivener7

(56,199 posts)
22. Is that obtuse interpretation really what you got from this conversation? Or is it that you just can't back down
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:22 PM
Jun 23

from your original error?

Dreamer Tatum

(10,985 posts)
24. I didn't err in the least. You have a need to believe one of the sides,
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:26 PM
Jun 23

and you chose the one that would throw me off a building AS A MATTER OF LAW if they could get their hands on me.

Rather than saying, golly, neither is all that trusty, let's see what actually happens.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,985 posts)
28. Impossible. I'm in mourning our pulverized base in Qatar.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:30 PM
Jun 23

Iran said it, so it HAS to be true.

rpannier

(24,736 posts)
26. Why are you taking trump at face value
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:27 PM
Jun 23

The Paper of the Iran government has information from the Iranian government
They likely are parroting what the government has told them
And... no they do not have to accept the ceasefire

reACTIONary

(6,530 posts)
48. Because they speak (more or less)...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 10:02 PM
Jun 23

... for the Iranian government. If the Iranian government says it hasn't agreed to a cease fire, why would we think it has?

Doodley

(11,154 posts)
12. This is dangerous, as Trump throws hissy fits when he's called out or contradicted. He will react from
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:39 PM
Jun 23

a position of his bruised ego, rather than strategy, and may double down all guns blazing if there is no ceasefire, taking America into all out war,

Justice matters.

(8,538 posts)
35. They know how to troll the sick convicted felon
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:56 PM
Jun 23

They assume he will take the bait that will end in him probably sending troops on the ground?

Then what? Russia will side with them?

vanessa_ca

(270 posts)
13. Update from Times of Israel: "Senior Iranian official confirms Tehran agreeing to ceasefire"
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:39 PM
Jun 23

Update from Times of Israel

Senior Iranian official confirms Tehran agreeing to ceasefire
By Reuters and ToI Staff
24 June 2025, 2:12 am

A senior Iranian official confirms to the Reuters news agency that Iran is agreeing to a Qatar-mediated, US-proposed ceasefire with Israel.

Qatar’s Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani secured Tehran’s agreement to the US proposal for a ceasefire during a call with Iranian officials, an official briefed on the negotiations tells Reuters.

The call took place after Iran’s strikes on a US air base in Qatar on Monday, the official says.

The phone call came after US President Donald Trump told Qatar’s emir that Israel had agreed to the ceasefire and asked for Doha’s help persuading Tehran to also agree, the official says.

Israel and Tehran have not officially confirmed the ceasefire since Trump announced the deal.

-snip-

Shortly before the ceasefire announcement, an Iranian official told CNN that Iran had not received any proposals.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/senior-iranian-official-confirms-tehran-agreeing-to-ceasefire/


It would be helpful to have the name of this "senior Iranian official". Reza Pahlavi maybe?
Haaretz reports no such thing. They still have the headline as "Trump Says" and Al Jazeera as "Trump Claims".


Reporting from Tehran, Al Jazeera’s Tohid Asadi noted that there has not been an official confirmation of the deal more than an hour after Trump’s announcement.

“Just a few minutes ago, we heard the sounds of explosions related to an interception and the activation of the air defence system here across the capital,” Asadi said.

“So the reality on the ground is that we are witnessing the continuation of the Israeli strikes, and that’s paving the way for further retaliatory reactions by the Iranian side.”

Middle East analyst Omar Rahman told Al Jazeera that many details are missing from Trump’s announcement, including whether negotiations would follow the purported ceasefire.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/23/trump-claims-ceasefire-reached-between-israel-and-iran

vanessa_ca

(270 posts)
42. Iranian FM: "As of now, there is NO "agreement" on any ceasefire or cessation of military operations. "
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 09:30 PM
Jun 23

Times of Israel/Reuters/White House with an unnamed official immediately rang alarm bells.
It takes two to ceasefire. Iran still contradicts Trump, but I note a softening in tone.

TEHRAN, Jun. 24 (MNA) – Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi has reacted to the claims made by US President Donald Trump on a ceasefire between Iran and the Israeli regime.

"As Iran has repeatedly made clear: Israel launched war on Iran, not the other way around," Araghchi wrote on X.

"As of now, there is NO "agreement" on any ceasefire or cessation of military operations. However, provided that the Israeli regime stops its illegal aggression against the Iranian people no later than 4 am Tehran time, we have no intention to continue our response afterwards," he stressed.

"The final decision on the cessation of our military operations will be made later," he underlined.

-snip-

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/233590/Iran-reacts-to-Trump-claims-on-ceasefire-with-Israel

GoodRaisin

(10,286 posts)
32. This is the problem with having a president who lies about everything.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:41 PM
Jun 23

Krasnov can’t even be trusted over what Iran’s leadership says. The enemy can say our president is lying and the whole world believes our enemy. It’s fucking embarassing.

SuzyandPuffpuff

(185 posts)
33. We hate him too
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 08:45 PM
Jun 23

Be careful people ... but get him the fuck out of ALL OF OUR LIVES! his DNA is worthless. He's cruel. Stupid. Smelly. Gross. Certifiable dick . AND guess what dumb fuck? ... you can scare.buy.bribe.threaten. but in the end...NOBODY likes you and you will ALWAYS b laffed at. Like u we're laffed at as a child. LOOOOZER

blue-wave

(4,709 posts)
41. And of course
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 09:24 PM
Jun 23

our media outlets scream this so-called "news" from a social media post as reality. What ever happened to fact checking? SMH I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

H2O Man

(77,131 posts)
45. Of course.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 09:31 PM
Jun 23

Recommended.

The felon merely wants to say Iran broke the ceasefire, and is the aggressor.

PCIntern

(27,444 posts)
50. How the fuck do you lie like THAT about THIS???
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 10:10 PM
Jun 23

Can you imagine President Truman stating that it was V-J day a month early with no Japanese surrender??? INCONCEIVABLE!!!

vanessa_ca

(270 posts)
51. I dunno. Tripping over reality in a rush for that Nobel Peace Prize he wants?
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 10:24 PM
Jun 23

The more you read about it, the worse it gets. He's totally deluded.

After his announcement, Trump told NBC that "It's a great day for America. It's a great day for the Middle East. I'm very happy to have been able to get the job done. A lot of people were dying and it was only going to get worse." When asked about the cease-fire's duration, he stated, "I think the cease-fire is unlimited. It's going to go forever," and expressed belief that the two sides would "never be shooting at each other again." He concluded that the war "would have brought the whole Middle East down."

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-24/ty-article/.premium/trump-says-complete-and-total-ceasefire-agreed-between-israel-and-iran/00000197-9ed6-d344-a59f-9ed6d29c0000
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