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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Iran has not agreed to a ceasefire. Trump is lying again" (Headline from Tehran Times)
June 24, 2025 - 2:24
TEHRAN - The Tehran Times understands that Donald Trump's claim of an incoming ceasefire between Iran and Israel is another one of the American president's lies aimed at pressuring the country.
Trump took to social media in the early hours of Tuesday to announce that the two sides had "fully agreed" to a ceasefire, effective in approximately 12 hours.
The president appears to be making up a new lie to force the Iranian government into accepting a ceasefire, believing that the move could pit the Iranian people against the officials and create domestic dissent.
Trump previously lied about needing "two weeks" to decide whether he would attack Iran's nuclear sites. He also engaged Iran in indirect talks for five rounds while he had already decided that he would have Israel attack the country's nuclear, military, and civilian infrastructure.
https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/514877/Iran-has-not-agreed-to-a-ceasefire-Trump-is-lying-again
The Tehran Times is an English-language daily newspaper published in Iran, founded in 1979 as the self-styled "voice of the Islamic Revolution". While not state-owned, it is considered state-controlled and closely tied to the hardline factions within the Iranian government.
Headline from Mehr News
TEHRAN, Jun. 24 (MNA) US President Donald Trump has claimed that Iran and the Israeli regime has agreed on a ceasefire.
https://en.mehrnews.com/news/233586/Liar-Trump-speaks-of-ceasefire-between-Iran-Israeli-regime
The Mehr News Agency is a semi-official news agency sponsored by the government of Iran. It is headquartered in Tehran, and is owned by the Iranian government's Islamic Development Organization.

uponit7771
(93,027 posts)bucolic_frolic
(51,132 posts)IF any subsequent encounters, will there be deeper consequences? Sat's operation seems too easy.
vanessa_ca
(270 posts)CatWoman
(80,037 posts)AloeVera
(3,160 posts)He's a sick ****.
slightlv
(5,949 posts)but just like GW, who might at least have a chance at fooling all the people, trump has lied his ass off so many times that no one but the hard core magas believe anything he says. And, already, with this just a few days old, his lies are being brought out in headlines regarding Israel and Iran. But... the further he draws in Iran, the closer we get to WWIII thanks to the alignments with China and Russia.
When I was a kid and deeply into going to church at the time, I told my grandmother (who was a traveling preacher) that I wasn't worried about the Apocalypse unless China and Russia closed ranks and became allies in a war. THEN we're in trouble. I based my opinion on something I read in Revelation... don't remember now what it was. I just remember grandma didn't diss me for my opinion... at that time, it meant a lot to me.
trump has now set the country up in a unique and unenviable position of being alone in the world of geopolitics. Our only "Friends" are countries who have hated our guts for generations. And he really thinks we can trust what they say? I honestly don't think he does. He's maneuvering pieces on a chessboard towards a war that will take out some countries completely, and leave others in the stone age (including us). For crypto dollars? To be kind of a ruined planet? I dunno... whatever it is, he's evil. What I don't understand is why he's not been stopped. Usually by the time this kind of catastrophe is obvious someone kills the bad guy or takes out the evil regime. Stephen Miller must be so proud.
pbmus
(12,660 posts)
malaise
(285,963 posts)He thinks this is some effin reality TV show

vanessa_ca
(270 posts)FarPoint
(14,062 posts)" Mission Accomplished" event....war laster several more years....
DemocracyWorks
(90 posts)We need to stop spiraling this out of control, Iran has no choice but to accept a ceasefire they are getting obliterated and I doubt they had much leverage to begin with.
Ocelot II
(125,662 posts)Neither is credible.
FBaggins
(28,205 posts)The fact that nobody had a reason to believe him didn't change the truth - but it explained why they asssumed he was lying.
In this case - the problem is that too few realize that Iran has been just as dishonest for going on five decades now.
EnergizedLib
(2,591 posts)Why believe that maniac on anything?
Dreamer Tatum
(10,985 posts)expressed a preference for his leadership over GWB's.
(go look for yourself if you don't believe me)
Forget it, Jake: it's DU.
Scrivener7
(56,199 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,985 posts)hanging on the words of a homophobic, misogynistic state supporter of terrorism.
Scrivener7
(56,199 posts)If he says something, I assume its a lie. I have been correct about 90% of the time.
This ceasefire either is or it isn't. If Taco says it is, it probably isn't.
But thanks so much for splaining my options to me.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,985 posts)I definitely reminded you that you don't have to believe Iran, which is at least as full of shit (they said they "pulverized" the base in Qatar today...where are you on that one?) as Trump.
Scrivener7
(56,199 posts)a lot of corroboration) then I'm believing what the Iranian paper says. Because they are saying opposite things. And if one is wrong the other is right. It has nothing to do with supporting anything Iran does or did.
Do you get it now? Or will you need to explain to me about Iran again?
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Scrivener7
(56,199 posts)from your original error?
Dreamer Tatum
(10,985 posts)and you chose the one that would throw me off a building AS A MATTER OF LAW if they could get their hands on me.
Rather than saying, golly, neither is all that trusty, let's see what actually happens.
Scrivener7
(56,199 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,985 posts)Iran said it, so it HAS to be true.
Scrivener7
(56,199 posts)
Scrivener7
(56,199 posts)rpannier
(24,736 posts)The Paper of the Iran government has information from the Iranian government
They likely are parroting what the government has told them
And... no they do not have to accept the ceasefire
reACTIONary
(6,530 posts)... for the Iranian government. If the Iranian government says it hasn't agreed to a cease fire, why would we think it has?
Doodley
(11,154 posts)a position of his bruised ego, rather than strategy, and may double down all guns blazing if there is no ceasefire, taking America into all out war,
Justice matters.
(8,538 posts)They assume he will take the bait that will end in him probably sending troops on the ground?
Then what? Russia will side with them?
vanessa_ca
(270 posts)Update from Times of Israel
By Reuters and ToI Staff
24 June 2025, 2:12 am
A senior Iranian official confirms to the Reuters news agency that Iran is agreeing to a Qatar-mediated, US-proposed ceasefire with Israel.
Qatars Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani secured Tehrans agreement to the US proposal for a ceasefire during a call with Iranian officials, an official briefed on the negotiations tells Reuters.
The call took place after Irans strikes on a US air base in Qatar on Monday, the official says.
The phone call came after US President Donald Trump told Qatars emir that Israel had agreed to the ceasefire and asked for Dohas help persuading Tehran to also agree, the official says.
Israel and Tehran have not officially confirmed the ceasefire since Trump announced the deal.
-snip-
Shortly before the ceasefire announcement, an Iranian official told CNN that Iran had not received any proposals.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/senior-iranian-official-confirms-tehran-agreeing-to-ceasefire/
It would be helpful to have the name of this "senior Iranian official". Reza Pahlavi maybe?
Haaretz reports no such thing. They still have the headline as "Trump Says" and Al Jazeera as "Trump Claims".
Just a few minutes ago, we heard the sounds of explosions related to an interception and the activation of the air defence system here across the capital, Asadi said.
So the reality on the ground is that we are witnessing the continuation of the Israeli strikes, and thats paving the way for further retaliatory reactions by the Iranian side.
Middle East analyst Omar Rahman told Al Jazeera that many details are missing from Trumps announcement, including whether negotiations would follow the purported ceasefire.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/23/trump-claims-ceasefire-reached-between-israel-and-iran
republianmushroom
(20,449 posts)spanone
(139,503 posts)trmp lying again
Anything to steal the headlines.
Polybius
(20,399 posts)For once. It's official now.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/senior-iranian-official-confirms-tehran-agreeing-to-ceasefire/
vanessa_ca
(270 posts)Times of Israel/Reuters/White House with an unnamed official immediately rang alarm bells.
It takes two to ceasefire. Iran still contradicts Trump, but I note a softening in tone.
"As Iran has repeatedly made clear: Israel launched war on Iran, not the other way around," Araghchi wrote on X.
"As of now, there is NO "agreement" on any ceasefire or cessation of military operations. However, provided that the Israeli regime stops its illegal aggression against the Iranian people no later than 4 am Tehran time, we have no intention to continue our response afterwards," he stressed.
"The final decision on the cessation of our military operations will be made later," he underlined.
-snip-
https://en.mehrnews.com/news/233590/Iran-reacts-to-Trump-claims-on-ceasefire-with-Israel
spanone
(139,503 posts)CatWoman
(80,037 posts)GoodRaisin
(10,286 posts)Krasnov cant even be trusted over what Irans leadership says. The enemy can say our president is lying and the whole world believes our enemy. Its fucking embarassing.
CatWoman
(80,037 posts)vanessa_ca
(270 posts)SuzyandPuffpuff
(185 posts)Be careful people ... but get him the fuck out of ALL OF OUR LIVES! his DNA is worthless. He's cruel. Stupid. Smelly. Gross. Certifiable dick . AND guess what dumb fuck? ... you can scare.buy.bribe.threaten. but in the end...NOBODY likes you and you will ALWAYS b laffed at. Like u we're laffed at as a child. LOOOOZER
Karasu
(1,516 posts)blue-wave
(4,709 posts)our media outlets scream this so-called "news" from a social media post as reality. What ever happened to fact checking? SMH I don't know if I should laugh or cry.
regnaD kciN
(27,147 posts)Grim Chieftain
(315 posts)question everything and doubt nothing.
H2O Man
(77,131 posts)Recommended.
The felon merely wants to say Iran broke the ceasefire, and is the aggressor.
uponit7771
(93,027 posts)PCIntern
(27,444 posts)Can you imagine President Truman stating that it was V-J day a month early with no Japanese surrender??? INCONCEIVABLE!!!
vanessa_ca
(270 posts)The more you read about it, the worse it gets. He's totally deluded.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-24/ty-article/.premium/trump-says-complete-and-total-ceasefire-agreed-between-israel-and-iran/00000197-9ed6-d344-a59f-9ed6d29c0000