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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsB-2's return home to Missouri... to a waiting crowd.
Cool stuff... my son was an ammo trooper on B-1B lines... much respect for the heavies.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/video-iran-b2-bombers-return-missouri/
KNOB NOSTER, Mo. (AP) The B-2 stealth bombers that dropped massive bunker-buster bombs on Iranian nuclear facilities began returning to their U.S. base in Missouri on Sunday.
An Associated Press journalist watched on a clear but windy afternoon as seven of the B-2 Spirit bombers came in for landing at Whiteman Air Force Base. The base, about 73 miles (117 kilometers) southeast of Kansas City, is home to the 509th Bomb Wing, the only U.S. military unit that operates the B-2 Spirit bombers.
The first group of four of the stealth aircraft did a loop around the base before approaching a runway from the north, while a final group of three arrived within 10 minutes.

BannonsLiver
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WarGamer
(17,384 posts)I still appreciate the machines of war and the wars and battles of old...
But I don't think modern day wars are necessary. ESPECIALLY not in the neocon sense of modern war... wars of geopolitics.
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Greg_In_SF
(246 posts)say they are super bad ass, but majestic technological marvels works too
snowybirdie
(6,154 posts)A grandson was in AF providing security at Whitman. While visiting him we came close. So impressed. Too bad Orange Menace doesn't appreciate our Military.
W_HAMILTON
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BannonsLiver
(19,314 posts)Ping Tung
(2,782 posts)has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men.
Martin Luther King
Beringia
(5,136 posts)
Martin Luther King, Thich Nhat Hanh and Adam Clayton Powell a Baptist pastor and politician
Prior to June 1965, Dr. King had occasionally expressed concern about the war in Vietnam, but he had done so publicly only in a tentative and extremely cautious manner. King was acutely aware of the risk that direct criticism of President Lyndon Johnson on his Vietnam policy risked jeopardizing the strong and critically important relationship he had developed with President Johnson in support of his civil rights efforts. However, various factors began to shift Dr. Kings understanding of the vast human suffering perpetrated in Vietnam and, as a result, his opposition to the war slowly began to intensify, eventually leading to an unequivocal moral condemnation of U.S. war policy, and a fundamental break in his relationship with Johnson.
Thich Nhat Hanh, an immensely courageous Buddhist monk from Vietnam, played an important role in educating Dr. King about the reality of the war from a Vietnamese perspective and inspiring Kings transformation into a national leader in the anti-war movement.
https://usfblogs.usfca.edu/fierce-urgency/2021/10/12/thich-nhat-hanh-and-dr-martin-luther-king-jr-spiritual-brothers-partners-in-nonviolence/
Ping Tung
(2,782 posts)Igel
(36,860 posts)We have smart phones but dumb students.
Oddly, guided missiles have yet to come close to the death tolls of the wars before guided missiles (except in the sense that a "rock" or "bullet" is a missile).
And even those wars have let to come to the level of ideological governments' mass murder of their populations, whether the "People's Republic of China," Nazi Germany,'s 13 million, or the Union of Soviet Socialist Republic under Stalin with its 21 million. Even the "agrarian reformer" (to borrow a phrase) Pol Pot was pretty impressive for a small little country (but not like WWII, for sure).
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Brother Buzz
(38,732 posts)The 509th Composite Group, born in secrecy Dec. 17, 1944, was created for the sole purpose of delivering the worlds first nuclear weapon.
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Brother Buzz
(38,732 posts)That never saw the fifty year old film, Jaws
Thanks for that nugget.
marybourg
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Brother Buzz
(38,732 posts)One interesting one how Steven Spielberg created the heightened suspense by accident because of a prop malfunction. Seems the sharks appearance was delayed because it wasnt doing what it was supposed to do, and it was driving Spielberg crazy until one of his crew pointed out, correctly, its absence was creating suspense.
Dave says
(5,130 posts)He wouldnt go back in the water for a year.
A side note: we. Saw sharks all the time. 12 foot Tigers and Hammerheads, and lots of sand sharks. They cruised just outside the surf line. (Rarely saw Tigers, but Hammerheads were pretty common.)
Emile
(35,341 posts)Response to Emile (Reply #18)
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Emile
(35,341 posts)is during Democratic administrations.
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TommyT139
(1,552 posts)purple_haze
(185 posts)Emile
(35,341 posts)purple_haze
(185 posts)You said, not as much as all-out war would have.
If I misunderstood you, what does that mean?
It means that an all-out protracted war would have cost infinitely more than flight time and maintenance for 125 airplanes at 40-48 hours flight time, fuel, crews, and 420 tons of deep penetrator ordinance.
Emile
(35,341 posts)purple_haze
(185 posts)But the histrionics on all sides seem to believe that's where we're headed
B.See
(5,691 posts)"waiting crowd."
I looked at the CBS video clip and read the article, and though there was a lot of Trump hype and detailed jargon about this unprovoked attack upon a sovereign nation, the only crowd seen or mentioned in all of it was a brief clip of protesting Iranians.
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B.See
(5,691 posts)or rather, pooh pooh it.
You mentioned waiting crowds in you title, so that's what I was looking for in your links.
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B.See
(5,691 posts)Still, the linked information didn't show the aforementioned crowds.
And there ARE, perhaps, a few of us, who are not so inclined to fall in behind this airstrike of Trump's, NOT to the discredit of our service members, called upon to carry out the order.
I'm old enough to remember the last time we were asked to fall in line behind such an action (in Iraq) one that turned out to be founded upon A LIE.
Like I said in another thread. We are being played as pawns, in somebody ELSE'S power grab.
sots.
purple_haze
(185 posts)God bless those crews and everybody on the ground who supports them. And especially God bless their families.